D'Antoine Hood Gone

[JR4AU]

It's not really semantics when you say:

and I disagree. I think he will play a true LB position in the base 4-3 regardless of injuries. No big deal though, just a simple disagreement.

Some pics to show you what I mean...(you know I luvs me some teh googles)

4-3 Over (Chiz's base front), but there are 5 on the line of scrimmage.  Who are the LBs, who is the safety?



4-3 Under...but wait, only 3 men have a hand on the ground and there's 5 defenders on the line of scrimmage, WTF?  Can't be a 4-3 then...can it?



4-3 Double Eagle.  Should look familiar from the Iron Bowl...again, 3 with a hand on the ground, 5 on the line of scrimmage, 8 in the box, yet it's a "4-3" defense. 

[Godfather]

I didn't know Chizik coached at USC, was he involved in the scandal at all...omg are we gonna be on probation.

[Jumbo]

I didn't know Chizik coached at USC, was he involved in the scandal at all...omg are we gonna be on probation.

Were fucked......in da mouth.

[Buzz Killington]

I didn't know Chizik coached at USC, was he involved in the scandal at all...omg are we gonna be on probation.

Good thing he lost his cell phone.

[The Prowler]

Me thinks Darren Bates is filling out nicely at the Safety/Linebacker position...(Eagle position)

[djsimp]

Me thinks Darren Bates is filling out nicely at the Safety/Linebacker position...(Eagle position)

That looks like Natural Lights in the background?

[No Huddle]

Don't hate.

[The Prowler]

That looks like Natural Lights in the background?

Nah...that's a case of that "Drank".

[djsimp]

Nah...that's a case of that "Drank".

Wrong Tigers.

[GH2001]

Wrong Tigers.

Thats a Longhorn beverage too....aka Texas Drank. I am actually not joking.

[djsimp]

Thats a Longhorn beverage too....aka Texas Drank. I am actually not joking.

Would that be the "Beevo drank" or the "Horny drank"?

[GH2001]

Would that be the "Beevo drank" or the "Horny drank"?

I remember a few years back Mack Brown was having some issues with players and this beverage. Apparently its huge in South Texas and Houston. TW - lot of this chit going around out there?

[The Prowler]

I remember a few years back Mack Brown was having some issues with players and this beverage. Apparently its huge in South Texas and Houston. TW - lot of this chit going around out there?

If I'm not mistaken, it started in Houston.  Paul Wall, Mike Jones and Big Pokey, basically, made it mainstream.

[wesfau2]

If I'm not mistaken, it started in Houston.  Paul Wall, Mike Jones and Big Pokey, basically, made it mainstream.

Those new jacks can step.

UGK and DJ Screw made that shit popular.

[Aubie16]

Yes, I was saying he won't be playing a true LB spot.  But whatever.  If it makes you happy to call him a true 4-3 LB, then by all means, have at. Just curious, is he going to be playing Sam, Mike, or Will?

I guess we could quibble over terminology...Darren Bates will be a Safety/Nickel Back.  In Nickel Defenses he'll sometimes be in basically a hybrid NB/LB role.  He'll still be a DB, but a DB with strong run support ability and assigment.  A role necessitated by today's spread offenses.  He will not be playing a true LB position in the base 4-3 unless we're severly injury depleted.

Today at practice the players broke off into position groups. Daren Bates went with the linebackers and worked with Roof in a group of three consisting of Bynes, Stevens, and Bates. He didn't work with the DB's, Lolley, Thig, or Chizik at all. I expect that to continue throughout Fall practice.

[RWS]

Today at practice the players broke off into position groups. Daren Bates went with the linebackers and worked with Roof in a group of three consisting of Bynes, Stevens, and Bates. He didn't work with the DB's, Lolley, Thig, or Chizik at all. I expect that to continue throughout Fall practice.

Call me misinformed, but I think this is a bad move. Bates was great in the secondary as a freshman. Why are you going to fuck with that with a year in at that position? Or are they just going to use him in a hybrid role similar to how UT used Eric Berrey? I know rumors went around that he would be moved to LB, but he may just be working with LBs to get their position down in addition to his normal spot, thus hybrid.

[Aubie16]

Call me misinformed, but I think this is a bad move. Bates was great in the secondary as a freshman. Why are you going to fuck with that with a year in at that position? Or are they just going to use him in a hybrid role similar to how UT used Eric Berrey? I know rumors went around that he would be moved to LB, but he may just be working with LBs to get their position down in addition to his normal spot, this hybrid.

Well you can read the first couple pages of the thread if you want a detailed explanation of the reasoning. (JR4AU obviously disagrees with my assessment). Basically Bates was out of position a fair amount in pass coverage but was awesome in run support. The coaches want someone that can really move at the LB position while still providing solid run support. Chizik has used this in the past at Auburn with other smallish LB's. Not too mention, with McNeil, Etheridge, and Savage back...we have more depth than we are used to at S.

If a depth chart gets released at the end of fall camp, I fully expect Bates to be listed as a starter at one of the OLB positions. (Once again, JR4AU will disagree).

[RWS]

Well you can read the first couple pages of the thread if you want a detailed explanation of the reasoning. (JR4AU obviously disagrees with my assessment). Basically Bates was out of position a fair amount in pass coverage but was awesome in run support. The coaches want someone that can really move at the LB position while still providing solid run support. Chizik has used this in the past at Auburn with other smallish LB's.

If a depth chart gets released at the end of fall camp, I fully expect Bates to be listed as a starter at one of the OLB positions. (Once again, JR4AU will disagree).

But that puts you guys that much thinner in the secondary and relying on younger guys. But then again, maybe its all the same since AU's LB corps was thin in the first place. I guess at this point, you're robbing Peter to pay Paul. Plus, adding a 195 lb guy to the LB corps doesn't really pose that much of a threat to a good running game, imo. I guess in a perfect world you would have an elite 215-225 range LB that can move like he's 195-205 lbs. That poses a problem to opposing offenses.

[Aubie16]

But that puts you guys that much thinner in the secondary and relying on younger guys. But then again, maybe its all the same since AU's LB corps was thin in the first place. I guess at this point, you're robbing Peter to pay Paul. Plus, adding a 195 lb guy to the LB corps doesn't really pose that much of a threat to a good running game, imo. I guess in a perfect world you would have an elite 215-225 range LB that can move like he's 195-205 lbs. That poses a problem to opposing offenses.

I edited my previous post, but don't forget we are adding 3 veteran safeties that we did not have the last 5 games of last year. That will provide a lot of depth in the secondary.

Daren Bates weighed in at 203 for Fall camp btw. Very similar in weight to Karibi DeDe, Travis Williams, and Anterrius Williams their sophomore years. Those guys were just fine against the run.

[RWS]

I edited my previous post, but don't forget we are adding 3 veteran safeties that we did not have the last 5 games of last year. That will provide a lot of depth in the secondary.

Daren Bates weighed in at 203 for Fall camp btw. Very similar in weight to Karibi DeDe, Travis Williams, and Anterrius Williams their sophomore years. Those guys were just fine against the run.

Still, I think you would want to see a 215-225 lb type guy in your LB spot.