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[Tarheel]

Can someone translate this for me?

Ο Μισισιπής ηχεί, μπορώ να πάρω τουλάχιστον 100# των γαρίδων από 2 γαλόνια της βενζίνης που καίγεται μέσω ενός 65HP εξωτερικού Johnson σε ένα 15' βάρκα Mitchell τρι-φλουδών που τραβά ένα 16' τράτα στο άνοιγμα της ημέρας με δύο τράτα και ουσιαστικά κανένα ψάρι απορριμμάτων. #50 αυτός είναι αρίθμηση 16-20.

[Snaggletiger]

Ο Μισισιπής ηχεί, μπορώ να πάρω τουλάχιστον 100# των γαρίδων από 2 γαλόνια της βενζίνης που καίγεται μέσω ενός 65HP εξωτερικού Johnson σε ένα 15' βάρκα Mitchell τρι-φλουδών που τραβά ένα 16' τράτα στο άνοιγμα της ημέρας με δύο τράτα και ουσιαστικά κανένα ψάρι απορριμμάτων. #50 αυτός είναι αρίθμηση 16-20.

Duh.  Wreckingball can be so dense, sometimes. 

[GH2001]

Thanks but I'll stick with Beef (from non-rbST cows). 

Truly unfortunately Gulf seafood will be questionable for a long while but it will eventually recover despite this terrible loss.  BP may never recover on the other hand.  But, I lay the blame for this entirely on the EPA and environmentalist idiots who forced oil drilling so far off-shore that it's almost impractical.

I was stunned listening to Admiral Thad Allen answering Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday in regards to the question of why it took so long to start building the sand barriers in Louisiana...the answer was they had to conduct two plus weeks of environment impact studies of...the sand barriers.  EPA, beta-male, whack-a-doodles led by The ONE...fiddling away while Rome burns (speaking of which that was another solution to getting rid of the oil but that solution was too environmentally insensitive as I understood it...beta attitude).  If not anything else the job of The ONE, if he is really "in charge", is to cut through this bureaucratic lunacy and get the barriers built.

The leftists are already starting with the knee-jerk reaction of stopping all drilling in the Gulf (at least new wells at this point anyway).  As soon as these loons can show me their magic, fairy, rainbow, pixi-dust, unicorn powered cars and SUVs I'll agree that we need to stop drilling for oil.  But until then we need the oil.

You pretty much just echoed what I said earlier in the thread - The Fed Govt and the EPA should bear more of this blame than BP. BP was really playing the hand they were dealt having to go into these unchartered waters and depths.

[JR4AU]

IMHO, Sometime long ago, BP suits said: "What if we have a catastrophe on one of these deep water rigs?  What do we do stop the leak?"  And a BP bean counter took off his shoes and starting adding up the costs of preparing for such a disaster, and when he showed the suits, they said: "probably best we don't ever have a catastrophe, but if we do, we'll worry about it then."

[wreckingball]

Ο Μισισιπής ηχεί, μπορώ να πάρω τουλάχιστον 100# των γαρίδων από 2 γαλόνια της βενζίνης που καίγεται μέσω ενός 65HP εξωτερικού Johnson σε ένα 15' βάρκα Mitchell τρι-φλουδών που τραβά ένα 16' τράτα στο άνοιγμα της ημέρας με δύο τράτα και ουσιαστικά κανένα ψάρι απορριμμάτων. #50 αυτός είναι αρίθμηση 16-20.

Спасибо

[Tarheel]

IMHO, Sometime long ago, BP suits said: "What if we have a catastrophe on one of these deep water rigs?  What do we do stop the leak?"  And a BP bean counter took off his shoes and starting adding up the costs of preparing for such a disaster, and when he showed the suits, they said: "probably best we don't ever have a catastrophe, but if we do, we'll worry about it then."

I'll defer to you and Birdman from a legal standpoint but I think before this is all over with the litigation from this accident will make the Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement look like small change.  What further bothers me is the knee-jerk reactions that could stop all drilling...forcing us to suck the teat of more oil producing nations that hate us.  Of course the proverbial wake-up call will be $6.50 a gallon gasoline which is what some of the Environmentalist wack-a-doodles want anyway.

[Tarheel]

Спасибо

You' επαν υποδοχή

[GH2001]

I'll defer to you and Birdman from a legal standpoint but I think before this is all over with the litigation from this accident will make the Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement look like small change.  What further bothers me is the knee-jerk reactions that could stop all drilling...forcing us to suck the teat of more oil producing nations that hate us.  Of course the proverbial wake-up call will be $6.50 a gallon gasoline which is what some of the Environmentalist wack-a-doodles want anyway.

I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit man.

[GarMan]

IMHO, Sometime long ago, BP suits said: "What if we have a catastrophe on one of these deep water rigs?  What do we do stop the leak?"  And a BP bean counter took off his shoes and starting adding up the costs of preparing for such a disaster, and when he showed the suits, they said: "probably best we don't ever have a catastrophe, but if we do, we'll worry about it then."

To some extent, you're probably right, but the fed-gov has been blocking them from taking the traditional courses of action with a catastrophe such as this.  They wanted to burn...  Fed-gov said no...  They wanted to use chemical treatments...  Fed-gov said no...  So, here we are. 

[GH2001]

To some extent, you're probably right, but the fed-gov has been blocking them from taking the traditional courses of action with a catastrophe such as this.  They wanted to burn...  Fed-gov said no...  They wanted to use chemical treatments...  Fed-gov said no...  So, here we are. 

And I am by no means a conspiracy nut like BF, but do you get the feeling that this spill getting worse day to day was not the worst thing in the world for this administration? Something to think about.

[bottomfeeder]

Another New Plume - BP is being selfish with their information. There is at least one other geyser.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/07/gulf.oil.plume/index.html?npt=NP1

[Tarheel]

Another New Plume - BP is being selfish with their information. There is at least one other geyser.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/07/gulf.oil.plume/index.html?npt=NP1

I don't think that it's just BP 'being selfish'; our friend Alex Jones was reporting on his Sunday show that Chairman Maobama's folk had "ordered" the video of the oil plume suppressed early on because it potential for being so politically damaging to his administration.  Why would they not continue doing that when other plumes are found?

As much pressure that appears to be behind the main oil plume it does not surprise me that there are other plumes forming.  The relief well(s) seem to be the only answer to solving this particular problem...but, then again, I'm no expert like The ONE.

[JR4AU]

To some extent, you're probably right, but the fed-gov has been blocking them from taking the traditional courses of action with a catastrophe such as this.  They wanted to burn...  Fed-gov said no...  They wanted to use chemical treatments...  Fed-gov said no...  So, here we are. 

Environmentalist whackos don't understand that sometimes you might have to do a little damage to save the whole.  Problem is, as I was pointing out, BP deemed it too expensive to prepare for an event that wasn't really likely to happen...but has.

[Tarheel]

...but, then again, I'm no expert like The ONE.

Or, apparently, like Holly-weird Director James Cameron who is now back-peddling from his original comment about BP:

Cameron backs up on BP
By: Patrick Gavin
June 8, 2010 07:49 AM EST

Filmmaker James Cameron garnered some headlines recently when he called BP "morons" for their handling of the Gulf oil spill (Cameron was asked to offer advice on how to fix the problem).

"Over the last few weeks I've watched as we all have with growing sort of horror and heartache watching what's happening in the Gulf and thinking, those morons don't know what they're doing," Cameron said last week.

Now, Cameron is clarifying his remarks, telling CNN's Larry King that his words were "taken out of context."

"The other shoe dropping on the story was, then I got into it and I talked to petroleum engineers and we started this study group ...They're not morons.

"There are good engineers out there ... working very hard. It's a very, very complex problem to solve."
...

Source:
http://dyn.politico.com/click/printstory.cfm?uuid=703f9091-44c5-4f8f-bafe-ffadbbf63888

[GH2001]

Environmentalist whackos don't understand that sometimes you might have to do a little damage to save the whole.  Problem is, as I was pointing out, BP deemed it too expensive to prepare for an event that wasn't really likely to happen...but has.

True - but let's step back and do a macro view with a root cause analysis. Is there really a good, feasible contingency plan for this type of catastrophe at this depth? Probably not. As Tarheel eluded to earlier, the simple fixes were scoffed at. So then we turn to the question of: Why is that? Because of the unchartered depth that BP was forced to go into IF they wanted any oil in the area. And THIS was caused by our federal gov't and the environmental lobbyists pushing this policy.

[JR4AU]

True - but let's step back and do a macro view with a root cause analysis. Is there really a good, feasible contingency plan for this type of catastrophe at this depth? Probably not. As Tarheel eluded to earlier, the simple fixes were scoffed at. So then we turn to the question of: Why is that? Because of the unchartered depth that BP was forced to go into IF they wanted any oil in the area. And THIS was caused by our federal gov't and the environmental lobbyists pushing this policy.

There wasn't a contengency plan that met any cost-benefit analysis standard.   

I'll have to plead some ignorance on the policies you're talking about.

[Tarheel]

Environmentalist whackos don't understand that sometimes you might have to do a little damage to save the whole.  Problem is, as I was pointing out, BP deemed it too expensive to prepare for an event that wasn't really likely to happen...but has.

Fed-Gov's mitigation response to this event has been a tragedy that could have been averted too had they prepared for this event that wasn't really likely to happen...but has.  Part of the job of the President in a crisis like this is to cut through the Fed-Gov, bureaucratic, red-tape jungle and get things done like, for example, building the sand berms along with burning off the oil where practical.  He has not done that.

[Snaggletiger]

Fed-Gov's mitigation response to this event has been a tragedy that could have been averted too had they prepared for this event that wasn't really likely to happen...but has.  Part of the job of the President in a crisis like this is to cut through the Fed-Gov, bureaucratic, red-tape jungle and get things done like, for example, building the sand berms along with burning off the oil where practical.  He has not done that.

This 10X. 

[JR4AU]

Fed-Gov's mitigation response to this event has been a tragedy that could have been averted too had they prepared for this event that wasn't really likely to happen...but has.  Part of the job of the President in a crisis like this is to cut through the Fed-Gov, bureaucratic, red-tape jungle and get things done like, for example, building the sand berms along with burning off the oil where practical.  He has not done that.

Agree...but he's busy looking for someone's ass to kick.

[GH2001]

There wasn't a contengency plan that met any cost-benefit analysis standard.   

I'll have to plead some ignorance on the policies you're talking about.

I guess what I am saying JR is that BP should never have even been drilling oil in those depths. And it was all political and driven by the EPA. Simple as that. In shallow water or on land, this could have been handled much easier.