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The solution
« on: June 05, 2010, 09:48:07 PM »
It's a goddamn conspiracy I'm telling you. Using poison to make the poisonous crude affects worse and lasting by sinking it. And the dispersant presently used is four to ten times as poisonous. This product has been around since around 1997.

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Re: The solution
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2010, 01:24:08 AM »
It's a goddamn conspiracy I'm telling you. Using poison to make the poisonous crude affects worse and lasting by sinking it. And the dispersant presently used is four to ten times as poisonous. This product has been around since around 1997.

Amerihaz



http://www.10tv.com/live/content/onnnews/stories/2010/05/17/story-scientist-oil-spill-columbus.html

http://amerihaz.wordpress.com/mission-statement/

 



So, you're advocating that we do nothing?
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Re: The solution
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2010, 10:33:38 AM »
The secondary relief well is gonna be the ultimate solution but I think everyone needs to strongly look at the root cause here which is making oil companies drill in unchartered territory (5+ feet) due to environmental lobbying. This would have been much easier to deal with on land (ANWAR) or in shallow water. But screw it - the EPA says it, it happens.
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Re: The solution
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2010, 01:17:37 PM »
It's a goddamn conspiracy I'm telling you. Using poison to make the poisonous crude affects worse and lasting by sinking it. And the dispersant presently used is four to ten times as poisonous. This product has been around since around 1997.

Amerihaz



http://www.10tv.com/live/content/onnnews/stories/2010/05/17/story-scientist-oil-spill-columbus.html

http://amerihaz.wordpress.com/mission-statement/



So, what is the point of the conspiracy?
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2010, 03:23:15 PM »
To keep our local economies in shambles while maybe killing off a few of us. Poisoning the seafood which is subsistence for so many living in the low wage south. Makes some people more dependent on government and corporate handouts paid for by consumers in the form of higher prices which perpetuates the socio-fascist agenda. Increases the government debt. Makes the bankers rich, namely the Bank of England.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2010, 03:31:09 PM »
To keep our local economies in shambles while maybe killing off a few of us. Poisoning the seafood which is subsistence for so many living in the low wage south. Makes some people more dependent on government and corporate handouts paid for by consumers in the form of higher prices which perpetuates the socio-fascist agenda. Increases the government debt. Makes the bankers rich, namely the Bank of England.
Wow.
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Re: The solution
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2010, 04:38:20 PM »
Poisoning the seafood which is subsistence for so many living in the low wage south.
I thought macaroni & cheese, spam, & natty light was the primary diet. Dem gulf skrimps is awfully expensive.
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Re: The solution
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2010, 10:19:25 PM »
We need to drill for oil but safety must be monitored. When chunks of the annular come up with the drill mud action must be taken to repair the BOP before proceeding. Also, sea water must not be use in place of kill mud ever. BP's ass is in a ringer for that shit.

Mississippi Sound, I can get at least 100# of shrimp from 2 gallons of gasoline burned through a 65HP Johnson outboard on a 15' tri-hull Mitchell boat pulling a 16' trawl on opening day with two trawls and virtually no trash fish. #50 of that is 16-20 count.

That last me all year. Well it use too. It's probably going to be a while before those days return. Even tuna will skyrocket in price, so I guess spam is in.

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2010, 10:16:06 AM »
We need to drill for oil but safety must be monitored. When chunk of the annular come up with the drill mud action must be taken to repair the BOP before proceeding. Also, sea water must not be use in place of kill mud ever. BP's ass is in a ringer for that poop.

Mississippi Sound, I can get at least 100# of shrimp from 2 gallons of gasoline burned through a 65HP Johnson outboard on a 15' tri-hull Mitchell boat pulling a 16' trawl on opening day with two trawls and virtually no trash fish. #50 of that is 16-29 count.

That last me all year. Well it use too. It's probably going to be a while before those days return. Even tuna will skyrocket in price, so I guess spam is in.

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This anger needs to be directed at the EPA and our govt moreso than BP.....
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Re: The solution
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2010, 10:39:19 AM »
They are all in cahoots with one another and I can't tell the difference between any of them.  :blink:

So my anger is towards everyone involved except the workers who only do as they are told and are not blame.
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Re: The solution
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2010, 10:50:10 AM »
They are all in cahoots with one another and I can't tell the difference between any of them.  :blink:

So my anger is towards everyone involved except the workers who only do as they are told and are not blame.

You think Big Oil and the EPA are in cahoots?????? WOW.......
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Re: The solution
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2010, 11:14:32 AM »
You think Big Oil and the EPA are in cahoots?????? WOW....... 

They're gonna get you!

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Re: The solution
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2010, 12:33:48 PM »
They're gonna get you!



too much Alex Jones going on in here. He likes Ketchup on his Bilderburgers.
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2010, 12:44:39 PM »
Well darn it, I'll have to catch you guys some Mobile Bay Speckled Trout, Shrimp and oysters and fry 'em up for you guys.That should put to rest any doubts people may have about the safety of the products used in the Gulf Oil Geysers (not a typo).

No conspiracy = safe seafood. 

Who's first?
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Re: The solution
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2010, 01:49:24 PM »
Well darn it, I'll have to catch you guys some Mobile Bay Speckled Trout, Shrimp and oysters and fry 'em up for you guys.That should put to rest any doubts people may have about the safety of the products used in the Gulf Oil Geysers (not a typo).

No conspiracy = safe seafood. 

Who's first? 

Let's try this...  If they had burned off the oil or started using chemical treatments at the start of this, the problem that we have today probably wouldn't have existed.  It would have been contained.  You think the government and "big bad oil" are in cahoots with one another...  If that were true, why would the government push them so far out into the Gulf driving up costs and risks exponentially?  That part of this makes no sense to me. 
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Re: The solution
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2010, 02:01:08 PM »
Well darn it, I'll have to catch you guys some Mobile Bay Speckled Trout, Shrimp and oysters and fry 'em up for you guys.That should put to rest any doubts people may have about the safety of the products used in the Gulf Oil Geysers (not a typo).

No conspiracy = safe seafood. 

Who's first?


Thanks but I'll stick with Beef (from non-rbST cows). 

Truly unfortunately Gulf seafood will be questionable for a long while but it will eventually recover despite this terrible loss.  BP may never recover on the other hand.  But, I lay the blame for this entirely on the EPA and environmentalist idiots who forced oil drilling so far off-shore that it's almost impractical.

I was stunned listening to Admiral Thad Allen answering Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday in regards to the question of why it took so long to start building the sand barriers in Louisiana...the answer was they had to conduct two plus weeks of environment impact studies of...the sand barriers.  EPA, beta-male, whack-a-doodles led by The ONE...fiddling away while Rome burns (speaking of which that was another solution to getting rid of the oil but that solution was too environmentally insensitive as I understood it...beta attitude).  If not anything else the job of The ONE, if he is really "in charge", is to cut through this bureaucratic lunacy and get the barriers built.

The leftists are already starting with the knee-jerk reaction of stopping all drilling in the Gulf (at least new wells at this point anyway).  As soon as these loons can show me their magic, fairy, rainbow, pixi-dust, unicorn powered cars and SUVs I'll agree that we need to stop drilling for oil.  But until then we need the oil.
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Re: The solution
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2010, 02:15:16 PM »
By the way, odd that the subject title is "The Solution".  GarMan and I were talking with the other guys (Dieter, Jose, Paul, the Duke of Wales, and Björn) while we're here at the Bilderberg Conference and, after comparing notes, we've found out that the Deep Seas Horizon catastrophe really is not part of our Plan. 

It is a terrible accident.


Occam's Razor...
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Re: The solution
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2010, 02:18:17 PM »
Question on burning the oil off.  This was my thought right from the start; however, since they haven't ever been able to contain the flow until the progress they've made recently, would that have been counter productive?  Could you have a continuous burn off of that magnitude if the oil continued to gush out at 800 kwazillion gallons a day?  Just axin' cause I have no clue....about a lot of things.
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Re: The solution
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2010, 02:45:39 PM »
Question on burning the oil off.  This was my thought right from the start; however, since they haven't ever been able to contain the flow until the progress they've made recently, would that have been counter productive?  Could you have a continuous burn off of that magnitude if the oil continued to gush out at 800 kwazillion gallons a day?  Just axin' cause I have no clue....about a lot of things.

On 28 April this was reported...unfortunately, the Environmentalists prevailed...

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Burning Off Gulf Oil Spill Raises Environmental Concerns
By Naureen S. Malik

Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

As emergency response teams scurry to clean up the expanding oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico to prevent it from reaching the shoreline, efforts to burn off the oil are raising fresh concerns about the impact on marine life and air quality.

The April 20 explosion that led to the sinking a deepwater drilling rig operated by Transocean Ltd. (RIG) for BP PLC (BP) off the coast of Louisiana has led to the largest oil spill in U.S. waters in decades. The companies haven't been able to cap the well, which continues to leak at a rate of 1,000 barrels a day. Other methods to stop or contain the spread of oil, including constructing a canopy to catch the oil and drilling of a relief well, will take several weeks to implement.

The controlled burning of oil corralled within a flame-retardant boom, a procedure that was slated to begin Wednesday, is considered particularly effective for the consistency of the light, sweet crude-oil spill. The process can get rid of 90%-98% of the oil, leaving behind a waxy film that can be skimmed off, said Allison Nyholm, policy adviser at the American Petroleum Institute, an industry group representing 400 oil and natural gas companies.

However, burning oil can harm microorganisms on the water's surface where the activity takes place. It releases heavy particulate matter into the air and smaller burn particles like ash and tar that can be easily consumed by marine life, hurting the food chain, said Richard Charter, senior policy adviser for marine programs with Defenders of Wildlife.
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Apparently, burning it off potentially damages the food chain and the micro-organisms more than the actual oil itself does.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100428-726268.html
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Re: The solution
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2010, 02:46:11 PM »
Mississippi Sound, I can get at least 100# of shrimp from 2 gallons of gasoline burned through a 65HP Johnson outboard on a 15' tri-hull Mitchell boat pulling a 16' trawl on opening day with two trawls and virtually no trash fish. #50 of that is 16-20 count.

Can someone translate this for me?
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