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CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« on: June 02, 2010, 11:48:44 AM »
1. Ryan Mallet (UA)
2. John Brantley (UF)
3. Stephen Garcia (USC)
4. Greg McElroy (UAT)
5. Jordan Jefferson (LSU)
6. Cam Newton (AU)
7. Nathan Stanley (OM)
8. Aaron Murray (UGA)
9. Mike Hartline (UK)
10. Larry Smith (VU)
11. Chris Relf (MSU)
12. Matt Simms (TN)

http://cfn.scout.com/2/973060.html

The "logic" behind the picks is given if you follow the links.  I don't believe that anyone without a start in the SEC should be placed above a player with a start.  So, my list would look like this:

1. Mallet
2. Garcia
3. McElroy
4. Hartline
5. Relf
6. Jefferson
7. Smith
8-12...the new guys in any order you like.
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 12:19:55 PM »
1. Ryan Mallet (UA)
2. John Brantley (UF)
3. Stephen Garcia (USC)
4. Greg McElroy (UAT)
5. Jordan Jefferson (LSU)
6. Cam Newton (AU)
7. Nathan Stanley (OM)
8. Aaron Murray (UGA)
9. Mike Hartline (UK)
10. Larry Smith (VU)
11. Chris Relf (MSU)
12. Matt Simms (TN)

http://cfn.scout.com/2/973060.html

The "logic" behind the picks is given if you follow the links.  I don't believe that anyone without a start in the SEC should be placed above a player with a start.  So, my list would look like this:

1. Mallet
2. Garcia
3. McElroy
4. Hartline
5. Relf
6. Jefferson
7. Smith
8-12...the new guys in any order you like.

Agree with your take on ranking unprovens. 
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2010, 01:39:36 PM »
Freekishly tall Mallet cat sees for milz and milz.
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2010, 01:45:48 PM »
Freekishly tall Mallet cat sees for milz and milz.

*chortle*
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2010, 01:48:09 PM »
Freekishly tall Mallet cat sees for milz and milz.
When he isn't on his ass on the turf.
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2010, 01:54:43 PM »
When he isn't on his ass on the turf.

I can see how you'd come up with that since Ark. gave up 24 sacks in 13 games last year, compared to UAT giving up 20 in 14 games...or a grand total of less than half a sack a game difference.  You never miss a chance to make a worthless post do you?
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2010, 01:56:34 PM »
And for the record...although it pains me to say this...but why McElroy isn't AT LEAST #2 is beyond me. That kid single handedly beat Auburn, Florida and played damn good against UT. In my opinion, he would be my #1. Of all the kids listed, how would you not pick that guy first? Sure, there are more kids there with higher upside, but McElroy just doesn't fuck up. If he fucks up...just one little tiny time...against Auburn, Alabama doesn't win the BCS. That kid is solid, and honestly, with the way he played to end the season, it scares the shit out of me how good Alabama can be with him managing the team at QB...
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2010, 01:59:47 PM »
And for the record...although it pains me to say this...but why McElroy isn't AT LEAST #2 is beyond me. That kid single handedly beat Auburn, Florida and played damn good against UT. In my opinion, he would be my #1. Of all the kids listed, how would you not pick that guy first? Sure, there are more kids there with higher upside, but McElroy just doesn't fuck up. If he fucks up...just one little tiny time...against Auburn, Alabama doesn't win the BCS. That kid is solid, and honestly, with the way he played to end the season, it scares the shit out of me how good Alabama can be with him managing the team at QB...

You're right about McElroy, but I think these lists, whether stated or not, always consider the player's "next level ability".  McElroy isn't going to turn any NFL scout's heads, but he's a damned fine QB that playes flawlessly within the system he's in.
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2010, 02:04:52 PM »
You're right about McElroy, but I think these lists, whether stated or not, always consider the player's "next level ability".  McElroy isn't going to turn any NFL scout's heads, but he's a damned fine QB that playes flawlessly within the system he's in.

I agree. But the list says best COLLEGE QB. If you were the coach of a college team, of these guys, who would you pick first?
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2010, 02:06:57 PM »
I can see how you'd come up with that since Ark. gave up 24 sacks in 13 games last year, compared to UAT giving up 20 in 14 games...or a grand total of less than half a sack a game difference.  You never miss a chance to make a worthless post do you?
I'm guessing you didn't notice all of the knock-downs and whatnot during the game. Being an Alabama fan, talking about an Arkansas QB, that's why I said that. Especially since we pretty much beat their asses here lately.

You never miss a chance to try and be a know-it-all and make a jackass out of yourself in the process, do you?
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2010, 02:13:53 PM »
I'm guessing you didn't notice all of the knock-downs and whatnot during the game. Being an Alabama fan that's never been to an Alabama Football Game and that lives on an Auburn forum, talking about an Arkansas QB, that's why I said that.

I never miss a chance to try and be a know-nothing and make a jackass out of myself in the process, do you?

FTFY.   
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2010, 02:17:03 PM »
FTFY.  
Exactly. You made yourself out to be a jackass, so now you need to try to recover with your "You've never been to a game!" card. I've never been to an Alabama game. I know. Apparently you care about this way more than I do.

Well played.
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2010, 02:21:24 PM »
Exactly. You made yourself out to be a jackass, so now you need to try to recover with your "You've never been to a game!" card. I've never been to an Alabama game. I know. Apparently you care about this way more than I do.

Well played.

Have you ever been to a game?  Ever given money to the university, or football program?  Ever supported the program in any way?  Do you have an account to post on a bammer football/sports forum? 

Your last statement speaks volumes! 
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2010, 02:25:17 PM »
The hell with it! Cameron Newton for Heisman!
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2010, 02:32:24 PM »
Have you ever been to a game?  Ever given money to the university, or football program?  Ever supported the program in any way?  Do you have an account to post on a bammer football/sports forum? 

Your last statement speaks volumes! 
No.

Yes. Years ago, I used to donate.

Answered above. You basically asked the same question twice, only in two different forms.

Yes, multiple boards. I have a subscription to BOL as well.

Anything else I can help you with?
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2010, 02:43:53 PM »

Anything else I can help you with?

Highly doubtful. 
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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2010, 03:34:28 PM »
Anything else I can help you with?

Sure. Could you fall with the sharp edge up every now and then? We all need a good laugh.
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2010, 03:39:45 PM »
I'm guessing you didn't notice all of the knock-downs and whatnot during the game. Being an Alabama fan, talking about an Arkansas QB, that's why I said that. Especially since we pretty much beat their asses here lately.

You never miss a chance to try and be a know-it-all and make a jackass out of yourself in the process, do you?

     We've been down a couple years, and 'bama's gotten the best of us lately.  RWS likes to crow and that's OK, like most bama fans he has no concept of winning with class. The thing I don't understand is the way 'bama talks, you would think that they've just totally dominated the hogs.  They've won the last three, but before that we were ahead in the series going back to us joining the SEC.  Nothing like going 10 and 8 on a team to make you pound your chest, and that doesn't even count the game you had forfeit (with more probably coming) for cheating.
   Personally, my favorite game was going to Bryant-Denny in '03 and watching the Hogs come back to silence the crowd.  Funny, I didn't hear that stupid Ram yer slam yer cheer that day.  I'll look thru my pictures, see if I still have some from that trip.  I'll send you a couple so you know what the stadium looks like.
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2010, 03:47:58 PM »
    We've been down a couple years, and 'bama's gotten the best of us lately.  RWS likes to crow and that's OK, like most bama fans he has no concept of winning with class. The thing I don't understand is the way 'bama talks, you would think that they've just totally dominated the hogs.  They've won the last three, but before that we were ahead in the series going back to us joining the SEC.  Nothing like going 10 and 8 on a team to make you pound your chest, and that doesn't even count the game you had forfeit (with more probably coming) for cheating.
   Personally, my favorite game was going to Bryant-Denny in '03 and watching the Hogs come back to silence the crowd.  Funny, I didn't hear that stupid Ram yer slam yer cheer that day.  I'll look thru my pictures, see if I still have some from that trip.  I'll send you a couple so you know what the stadium looks like.

Bammers live in the reality that best suits them, whether it's yesteday, today, or in the future.  They currently have today to live in...it won't last forever, unlike their lack of class and humility.
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Re: CFN's SEC QB Rankings
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2010, 04:49:35 PM »
And for the record...although it pains me to say this...but why McElroy isn't AT LEAST #2 is beyond me. That kid single handedly beat Auburn, Florida and played damn good against UT. In my opinion, he would be my #1. Of all the kids listed, how would you not pick that guy first? Sure, there are more kids there with higher upside, but McElroy just doesn't fuck up. If he fucks up...just one little tiny time...against Auburn, Alabama doesn't win the BCS. That kid is solid, and honestly, with the way he played to end the season, it scares the shit out of me how good Alabama can be with him managing the team at QB...
I agree, on McElroy he's a championship Qb, he should at least be #2 and more than likely #1. Garcia being so high doesn't bother if were talking about a frat party but this is D-1 football!
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