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Re: ATTENTION ATTORNEYS! Anyone know about contract law?
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2010, 08:19:53 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2010, 09:57:58 AM »

Does laying drywall hurt your tool?

When ever I had the need to implement drywall, I would always "hang" it.
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BTW - What I meant. For some reason bricks and drywall mated in my statement.
 
I think K is right. It may not be worth it. May just take the high road on this one. Because I am almost certain this new contract will get fucked up, and I would like to be there to clean up the mess.

And wes -  :fu:    It is shady.   You know - kind of like hiring a head coach before youve fired the old one. You don't think what Auburn did to TT (jetgate), Washington did to Jim Zorn and the Raiders are doing to Cable - were all shady?

Notice I said "shady" not illegal. Yeah - I know its business, but it still sucks. Its easy to say "its just business" from the backseat.
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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2010, 09:59:43 AM »

Notice I said "shady" not illegal. Yeah - I know its business, but it still sucks. Its easy to say "its just business" from the backseat.

I just don't think I could be around someone who did their business in the back seat.  That has got to smell after a day or two.
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Re: ATTENTION ATTORNEYS! Anyone know about contract law?
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2010, 10:31:01 AM »
I just don't think I could be around someone who did their business in the back seat.  That has got to smell after a day or two.

Febreze?
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Re: ATTENTION ATTORNEYS! Anyone know about contract law?
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2010, 10:40:29 AM »


And wes -  :fu:    It is shady.   You know - kind of like hiring a head coach before youve fired the old one. You don't think what Auburn did to TT (jetgate), Washington did to Jim Zorn and the Raiders are doing to Cable - were all shady?

Notice I said "shady" not illegal. Yeah - I know its business, but it still sucks. Its easy to say "its just business" from the backseat.

So, if you realize that shady and illegal are not necessarily one and the same, then why the bitchfest here?
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2010, 10:42:16 AM »
So, if you realize that shady and illegal are not necessarily one and the same, then why the bitchfest here?


Sometimes you have to talk shit out.  Why burden your employees or family when you can unload on random fucks? 

That's my excuse.
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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2010, 10:53:13 AM »
Sometimes you have to talk shit out.  Why burden your employees or family when you can unload on random fucks? 

That's my excuse.

Fair enough.  I guess "bitchfest" was the wrong word. 

Rephrased: Why come here and solicit legal advice if you recognize the difference between shady and illegal?
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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2010, 09:00:09 PM »
Fair enough.  I guess "bitchfest" was the wrong word. 

Rephrased: Why come here and solicit legal advice if you recognize the difference between shady and illegal?

Just fucking with ya man. I laughed as I typed it. No worries  :bar:

It probably IS illegal but as vandyvol said, you can't get anything but what the lost profits would have been. I don't think its worth pursuing. I was just pissed to holy hell yesterday and needed to know options. As Kevin said, sometimes you just need to talk it out. I am going the "kill em with kindness" route. I have a feeling I will be back and dont wanna burn too many bridges.
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Re: ATTENTION ATTORNEYS! Anyone know about contract law?
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2010, 09:08:23 PM »
Just fucking with ya man. I laughed as I typed it. No worries  :bar:

It probably IS illegal but as vandyvol said, you can't get anything but what the lost profits would have been. I don't think its worth pursuing. I was just pissed to holy hell yesterday and needed to know options. As Kevin said, sometimes you just need to talk it out. I am going the "kill em with kindness" route. I have a feeling I will be back and dont wanna burn too many bridges.

Excellent plan.
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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2010, 10:30:08 PM »
Since we're gonna bitch, here's mine.   

I bought a software program.  Perpetual license, paid for training and the whole nine yards. One year maintenance was $2500.  I'm good with that.  I might only need to call it three or four times a year, but I paid it. 

Next year maintenance went up to $7500.  I didn't really look when the bill came in and it was paid before I caught it.  Okay.  It was too high but I was there. I called and registered a complaint, blah blah blah. 

Third year maintenance bill comes in and its $11,250.  I tell them in no uncertain terms to fuck off.  Get the sales manager calling. He asks me if i'll reconsider for $8500.  I tell him to fuck off.  I get the manager of the sales manager calling.  He says they'll give me a one year exemption and we'll drip back to the $7500 but they can't lock it in for the following year.  Fuck off again.  He asks me why I'm being obstinate.  I tell him to fuck off. 

Two months later, I get a call from the VP of finance.  He says that according to their records one of my employees called for maintenance during the time we were "negotiating" the extension.  Since they called that triggered an automatic renewal.  Please remit $11,250 immediately.  I laugh in his face and tell him to fuck off. 

Get a call from the VP of development.  He says he understands the situation, but rules are rules.  He's willing to cut me a break, though.  I can send them $7500 and we'll be good.   Fuck the fuck off. 

I get a call from their collections department.  They just want to settle it.  Would I consider paying $5000?  Fuck off.  I hang up.  She calls my bookkeeper and tells her I've approved a payment for $5000 and could she please remit?  I call them and tell them to fuck off again. 

Collections department manager calls with a one-time deal.   Send $2500 by close of business Friday and they will close the books on the issue.  I laugh in her face.  Literally scream fuck off in the phone as I'm hanging it up. 

She calls back 15 times over the next three days before she gets me on the phone.  Asks again if I'll consider $2500.  I tell her no.  She says what about $1400, which is the prorated amount of the original invoice through the day of the alleged call.  Of course nobody in my office will confess to making the call and I can't find it on the phone bill.  I tell her I'd come a hell of a lot closer to paying $1400 than I would $11K, but the answer remains no.  Fuck off.  She says DEAL!

Next week I get an invoice in the mail for the prorated amount I've "agreed" to.  I send it back with the words Fuck Off in green sharpie. 

The next call is from their lawyer.  He'll be filing small claims unless I pay $1400. 

Fuck this shit.  I call my lawyer.  Give him the details.  Tell him to fuck them up. 

After looking at it for a week, he tells me it will cost more to fight it than it will to pay the $1400.  I'm better off to pay it and move on. 

They got a check.  For $1400.  The accompanying letter read "Fuck Off"  In the "For" line I had my bookeeper put "Extortion". 

Wow. That felt good to type. 
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Re: ATTENTION ATTORNEYS! Anyone know about contract law?
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2010, 09:10:52 AM »
wow........ :blink:
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« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2010, 04:47:33 PM »
wow........ :blink:

Got a letter from my lawyer today.  $268 for researching the letter and telling me to pay. 

Fuck lawyers, too.
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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2010, 04:56:29 PM »
Got a letter from my lawyer today.  $268 for researching the letter and telling me to pay. 

Fuck lawyers, too.
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« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2010, 07:16:04 PM »
Got a letter from my lawyer today.  $268 for researching the letter and telling me to pay. 

Fuck lawyers, too.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, you could've you have sued that company for harassment, mental stress and a number of other things....especially if you started recording all of the phone conversations, minus the "fuck,  fuckity, fuck-fuck, off" and the "eat shit a die you bunch of fuckin' greed cocksuckers" statements.
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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2010, 10:24:34 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, you could've you have sued that company for harassment, mental stress and a number of other things....especially if you started recording all of the phone conversations, minus the "fuck,  fuckity, fuck-fuck, off" and the "eat shit a die you bunch of fuckin' greed cocksuckers" statements.

No, that doesn't work.  They would merely claim they were attempting to collect a debt and within their rights.

All we'd end up doing was making lawyers rich.
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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2010, 10:27:01 PM »
No, that doesn't work.  They would merely claim they were attempting to collect a debt and within their rights.

All we'd end up doing was making lawyers rich.


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« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2010, 10:45:40 PM »
No, that doesn't work.  They would merely claim they were attempting to collect a debt and within their rights.

All we'd end up doing was making lawyers rich.
Okay, I was thinking that they were just attempting to collect a debt that was wrong, even after you'd explained to them or asked them about the debt.  The part about them going from asking for $11,000+ down to $1,400 and calling your secretary saying that you had okayed to pay the debt when you hadn't, tells me that something wasn't right with the debt and that it was extremely fishy.  But yeah, it would've been strung out to where you'd more than likely spent more money on lawyer fees.  Hell, it cost over $250 just to have your lawyer say that there was not enough there to procede with the lawsuit.
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« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2010, 10:49:41 PM »
Okay, I was thinking that they were just attempting to collect a debt that was wrong, even after you'd explained to them or asked them about the debt.  The part about them going from asking for $11,000+ down to $1,400 and calling your secretary saying that you had okayed to pay the debt when you hadn't, tells me that something wasn't right with the debt and that it was extremely fishy.  But yeah, it would've been strung out to where you'd more than likely spent more money on lawyer fees.  Hell, it cost over $250 just to have your lawyer say that there was not enough there to procede with the lawsuit.

Yep. 

There was clearly something fishy about the deal.  I think the company is struggling and would rather piss off somebody who was rejecting their services than they would try to keep selling it. 
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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2010, 10:56:11 PM »

Prowler and Kaos having a civil conversation - I think teh Al Gore innerwebs warming is freezing over.

We've never disliked each other, just two dogs barking for fun.  I laugh my ass off when I call him a dumbass. 
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« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2010, 12:35:23 AM »
We've never disliked each other, just two dogs barking for fun.  I laugh my ass off when I call him a dumbass.  

And I'm the creepy guy in the corner touching myself.  

It's a healthy relationship.
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