Auburn will end up 4th in recruiting on Rivals.com

[The Prowler]

JAD:  Compelling argument. I could buy it if we were replacing one or the other.  Not both. If Burns, Caudle, Rollison, Smith, Fannin, McCalebb, Trotter or Aycock were better than the "adequate" they would have played this year. Well except Trotter.

I remember seeing a #18, #32, #27 and a #23 playing....a lot.  Maybe my eyes aren't what they used to be or it could've been another player wearing #23 that had back to back 100 yards rushing.

[Kaos]

*sigh*

I liked thngs better when children might be seen but were rarely heard

[The Prowler]

*sigh*

I liked thngs better when children might be seen but were rarely heard

*Burn*

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

How many of those teams were replacing both the leading rusher and leading passer regardless of how adequate or inadequate -- or record setting -- they were?  

That's the basis of my positon. Both. Not one.  

How much of the "leading passer", and "leading rusher" roles were attributable to Gus Malzhan and the play calling this year, versus simply the talent of the particular person in that role?

Did Todd, or Tate perform equally as well under the former offensive staff, or schemes?  

They progressed, and performed in their first year under this staff.   Is it not reasonable to assume that one, or more of the players taking over could perform equally, or better?

[jadennis]

K, you're right, replacing both is a bigger challenge.  However, just because a younger guy played less than the senior, that doesn't mean they aren't as good or are equally "adequate".

Beanie Wells was limited in carries because Pittman was the older guy.  Moreno redshirted at Georgia simply becausw they had older guys they thought could get the job done.  Terrell Pryor started the year playing a few plays at a time while the senior Beockman started.  Since they weren't redshirting Pryor, they eventually switched to him.   Even Bo waited his turn to some extent.
I'm on my phone, so I'm done with the examples, but you get what I mean.  Just because a younger guy doesn't play much, it doesn't mean they aren't equally capable...sometimes it just means it's not their time yet.

Adrian Peterson and Herschel are pretty rare.  Most guys, even the Bradfords, Vince Youngs, and Leinarts of the world waited behind guys whom they were better than.

[Token]

What the phuk is this?  5 pages and it's still on topic?

Blasphemy!!

[Kaos]

How much of the "leading passer", and "leading rusher" roles were attributable to Gus Malzhan and the play calling this year, versus simply the talent of the particular person in that role?

Did Todd, or Tate perform equally as well under the former offensive staff, or schemes?  

They progressed, and performed in their first year under this staff.   Is it not reasonable to assume that one, or more of the players taking over could perform equally, or better?

In a word?  No. 

It's perfectly acceptable to hope that this is the case, but nothing but wishful thinking -- failed wishful thinking we've experienced multiple times over the last 20 years -- to expect or assume as much. 

[The Prowler]

In a word?  No. 

It's perfectly acceptable to hope that this is the case, but nothing but wishful thinking -- failed wishful thinking we've experienced multiple times over the last 20 years -- to expect or assume as much. 

Yes you're correct, the world is infact flat.  The moon is also made of cheese.

[Kaos]

Yes you're correct, the world is infact flat.  The moon is also made of cheese.

Could you hand the phone to a rock, please?  It might make more sense than you.

[The Prowler]

Could you hand the phone to a rock, please?  It might make more sense than you.

And I'm the dumbass?

[CCTAU]

I remember seeing a #18, #32, #27 and a #23 playing....a lot.  Maybe my eyes aren't what they used to be or it could've been another player wearing #23 that had back to back 100 yards rushing.

You saw #18 playing? I saw him on the field. I'm not sure Todd could have done worse running. If #18 touches the ball again, we are in trouble.

[AUTiger1]

What the phuk is this?  5 pages and it's still on topic?

Blasphemy!!

The fucking world is coming to an end.

[Saniflush]

What the phuk is this?  5 pages and it's still on topic?

Blasphemy!!

You're Ghey.

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

In a word?  No. 

It's perfectly acceptable to hope that this is the case, but nothing but wishful thinking -- failed wishful thinking we've experienced multiple times over the last 20 years -- to expect or assume as much. 

Fine.  I guess this does fit the pessimistic mentality that you project exclusively.  Maybe you can look at as a realist, and therefore, you're guided only by what trends and historical precedent allows you.  That's what you're doing.  Okay.  I guess that's the primary difference in how you approach this, and how some other folks do.  You're not alone here.  I'm not alone here.

As much as it's prudent to follow guidelines, trends and precedent and other situations, some situations allow you to look at the individual variables that make up the situation.  It won't always leave you on a parallel with trends and will be open to opinion.  It won't always be wishful thinking, except to those not capable of thinking outside the trends and precedent. 

If all this was ruled exclusively by numbers, trends and precedent, there would be no need for discussion.  We might as well shut down the boards and let the statisticians do their thing, sit back, and just watch what we know will already happen.   



 

[jmar]

IMO, Fannin would be toting the ball if that shoulder could absorb some straight on contact. I'm not a doctor, but I remember that Will Herring was never the same player after his surgery. How many times have you heard someone say that Fannin was our best player. McCalleb cannot bang. Smith was all the talk last Spring.

And Chris Todd was a forgotten man this time last season. 

[Kaos]

And I'm the dumbass?

Yes.

[DnATL]

If #18 touches the ball again, we are in trouble.

Why do you hate Wes Byrum?