Something I didn't know...

Kaos · « **on:** December 28, 2009, 12:50:52 PM »

Remember Dan "Nobody can win at Iowa State except for the fact that he did and it was better to pretend he didn't to better excuse the abomination Chizik gagged forth there" McCarney?

Did you know he was assistant head coach and defensive line coach at Florida for the last two seasons? That Dan "He sucks because he was at Iowa State" McCarney has a NC ring?

GH2001 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 28, 2009, 01:02:11 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on December 28, 2009, 12:50:52 PM

Remember Dan "Nobody can win at Iowa State except for the fact that he did and it was better to pretend he didn't to better excuse the abomination Chizik gagged forth there" McCarney?

Did you know he was assistant head coach and defensive line coach at Florida for the last two seasons? That Dan "He sucks because he was at Iowa State" McCarney has a NC ring?

Yes and Yes.

Now what was the question again?

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #2 on:** December 28, 2009, 01:04:39 PM »

Ed Orgeron has a NC ring from USC as the d-line coach.

Kaos · « **Reply #3 on:** December 28, 2009, 01:09:11 PM »

Not saying it means anything necessarily, I just didn't know. I assumed he'd been devoured by the earth since he sucked so bad at Iowa State, where no human being can ever win -- and you should believe this because there are people who actually lived somewhere around there.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 28, 2009, 01:09:13 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on December 28, 2009, 12:50:52 PM

That Dan "He sucks because he was at Iowa State" McCarney has a NC ring?

Right....take the guy out of Ames and look what happens.

Actually you're mis-characterizing the argument. No one ever claimed that McCarney sucked. The argument was that Ames sucks and no one wins there on a sustained basis. In fact, my posts relating to McCarney/ISU almost always contained this description of McCarney: the most successful, longest tenured and most beloved coach at ISU.

The Prowler · « **Reply #5 on:** December 28, 2009, 01:16:38 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on December 28, 2009, 01:09:11 PM

Not saying it means anything necessarily, I just didn't know. I assumed he'd been devoured by the earth since he sucked so bad at Iowa State, where no human being can ever win -- and you should believe this because there are people who actually lived somewhere around there.

Yes, Dan was such a great HC that he was hired as a DL coach at Florida...He really jumped on that success that he had at Iowa State. :thumbsup:

Jumbo · « **Reply #6 on:** December 28, 2009, 01:27:56 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on December 28, 2009, 01:09:13 PM

Right....take the guy out of Ames and look what happens.

Actually you're mis-characterizing the argument. No one ever claimed that McCarney sucked. The argument was that Ames sucks and no one wins there on a sustained basis. In fact, my posts relating to McCarney/ISU almost always contained this description of McCarney: the most successful, longest tenured and most beloved coach at ISU.

The best coach in the last 30 years at Iowa State left the program with a losing record, that was our whole argument. We never said McCarney was a bad coach?

wesfau2 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 28, 2009, 01:31:32 PM »

Quote from: Jumbo on December 28, 2009, 01:27:56 PM

The best coach in the last 30 years at Iowa State left the program with a losing record, that was our whole argument. We never said McCarney was a bad coach?

That's it in a nutshell.

It's easy, I suppose, to take from that a slap at McCarney, but that was not the argument.

Kaos · « **Reply #8 on:** December 28, 2009, 01:32:10 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on December 28, 2009, 01:16:38 PM

Yes, Dan was such a great HC that he was hired as a DL coach at Florida...He really jumped on that success that he had at Iowa State. :thumbsup:

^^

Prowler: Taking dumbass to a whole nother level.

Kaos · « **Reply #9 on:** December 28, 2009, 01:34:06 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on December 28, 2009, 01:31:32 PM

That's it in a nutshell.

It's easy, I suppose, to take from that a slap at McCarney, but that was not the argument.

Wasn't really going there anyway.

More just noting that I didn't know he'd turned up at Florida. I found that interesting. Assistant head coach at that. Can't figure out how I missed that.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 28, 2009, 01:36:28 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on December 28, 2009, 01:34:06 PM

Wasn't really going there anyway.

You pulled on helluva a head-fake, then.

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More just noting that I didn't know he'd turned up at Florida. I found that interesting. Assistant head coach at that. Can't figure out how I missed that.

I'm pretty sure that we covered that during the lengthy Chizik/ISU/McCarney discussions.

Oh well, learn something every day.

The Prowler · « **Reply #11 on:** December 28, 2009, 01:42:37 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on December 28, 2009, 01:34:06 PM

More just noting that I didn't know he'd turned up at Florida. I found that interesting. Assistant head coach at that. Can't figure out how I missed that.

Yeah, that's been covered. The Greatest HC in the History of Iowa State football is a position coach at Florida.

jmar · « **Reply #12 on:** December 28, 2009, 02:05:34 PM »

He interviewed at Miami but got snatched up and given the Asst. Head title ta boot.

Kaos · « **Reply #13 on:** December 28, 2009, 02:06:44 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on December 28, 2009, 01:36:28 PM

You pulled on helluva a head-fake, then.

I'm pretty sure that we covered that during the lengthy Chizik/ISU/McCarney discussions.

Oh well, learn something every day.

It's my MO to make ridiculing statements, but that wasn't really the impetus here. It was just an observation with some snidery thrown in.

I don't recall there being any convo regarding where McCarney was currently employed, but it may have been there. Assistant HC is a decent deal, particularly working under Meyer.

wesfau2 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 28, 2009, 03:28:40 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on December 28, 2009, 02:06:44 PM

It's my MO to make ridiculing statements, but that wasn't really the impetus here. It was just an observation with some snidery thrown in.

I know that, but the genesis of a lot of the (ungodly) back and forth that you incite comes from the misstatement of others' positions in service of your snark.

Tiger Wench · « **Reply #15 on:** December 28, 2009, 03:50:41 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on December 28, 2009, 03:28:40 PM

I know that, but the genesis of a lot of the (ungodly) back and forth that you incite comes from the misstatement of others' positions in service of your snark.

Well, that right there may be the reason you've had difficulty findin' gainful employment.

GH2001 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 28, 2009, 04:52:46 PM »

Quote from: Tiger Wench on December 28, 2009, 03:50:41 PM

Well, that right there may be the reason you've had difficulty findin' gainful employment.

Wench is on a roll. It looks like you have watched that movie about as many times as me....

Tiger Wench · « **Reply #17 on:** December 28, 2009, 04:55:57 PM »

Quote from: GH2001 on December 28, 2009, 04:52:46 PM

Wench is on a roll. It looks like you have watched that movie about as many times as me....

You don't say much my friend, but when you do it's to the point, and I salute you for it.

I am bored at work. I decided that this would be the theme for today. Tomorrow... something different.

AUChizad · « **Reply #18 on:** December 28, 2009, 06:01:55 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on December 28, 2009, 03:28:40 PM

I know that, but the genesis of a lot of the (ungodly) back and forth that you incite comes from the misstatement of others' positions in service of your snark.

My head is spinning from this attempt at misdirection.

So now you're the one representing the more extreme version of the opposite side of the argument you rallied against?

Now you're saying the Iowa State coaches, particularly the only one that was conceeded as having a halfway unshitty season, won a NC as an assistant somewhere else (as did Chizik)? That the Iowa State coaches couldn't meet their world-beating potential because they were chained to an unwinnable black hole of a program?

And you're saying this was your position all along? Everyone else are the idiots that said that being unsuccesful there is a directly transferable guage for how they will perform at another program?

Just wanna make sure I follow...

Kaos · « **Reply #19 on:** December 28, 2009, 07:26:05 PM »

Quote from: AUChizad on December 28, 2009, 06:01:55 PM

My head is spinning from this attempt at misdirection.

So now you're the one representing the more extreme version of the opposite side of the argument you rallied against?

Now you're saying the Iowa State coaches, particularly the only one that was conceeded as having a halfway unshitty season, won a NC as an assistant somewhere else (as did Chizik)? That the Iowa State coaches couldn't meet their world-beating potential because they were chained to an unwinnable black hole of a program?

And you're saying this was your position all along? Everyone else are the idiots that said that being unsuccesful there is a directly transferable guage for how they will perform at another program?

Just wanna make sure I follow...

Actually I wasn't really saying anything other than I didn't know he was at Florida.

That's all there is.