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This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« on: December 03, 2009, 12:09:54 PM »
I thought he had nothing to do with the Outback Bid?

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20091203/SPORTS0402/912030339/1002/sports/Some-of-the-best-drama-comes-before-bowl-games

Auburn officials =  JJ and the Athletic dept


Is this a great bowl season or what?



 

The games don't begin for 16 days, but the plot already has taken more turns than a Ste­phen King novel. Nowhere is the excitement more gripping than in the Southeastern Conference, where half a dozen teams fin­ished with 7-5 records and find themselves lobbying for better bowl position.

The competition has been fierce.

After all, the right bowl can create advantages that last for years. Power is rooted in re­cruiting. Recruiting, in many ways, is rooted in exposure.

Bigger bowls with attractive dates and more national exclu­sivity can help create buzz throughout the recruiting world. Prospects know which programs are making progress.

They also can see which teams are sliding.

The past few days have been tense throughout the league. Athletic directors have been talking with bowl representa­tives and promoting the best ele­ments of their programs -- and their fan bases -- in an effort to distinguish themselves.

If everyone is 7-5, it takes more than a record to curry fa­vor.

Auburn was perhaps the most proactive program, work­ing feverishly to secure a com­mitment from the Outback Bowl. The game, played on Jan. 1 in Tampa, has selected an East­ern Division program during each of the past 13 seasons.

The Tigers didn't care. They wanted to be in Tampa.

And they apparently made it work.

Auburn officials had three novel elements working in their favor. Coach Gene Chizik is a native of nearby Clearwater, Fla., and courted his wife there during the early 1990s. It's a good story.

Gus Malzahn's offense is ex­citing, innovative and notewor­thy. It's a good story.

Auburn's fan base, excluded from the postseason fray in 2008, is enthusiastic about the team's renaissance. If Chizik somehow could move his team into a New Year's Day bowl during his first season, fans would feel even more strongly about making the trip to Florida.

Everything was in place. Outback Bowl officials, who ini­tially felt compelled to invite Tennessee, instead worked with officials from the Chick-fil-A Bowl and found the Vols a closer postseason home.
(2 of 2)


Other bowls with SEC tie-ins made their agreements as well. Georgia settled with the Inde­pendence Bowl. South Carolina (Papajohns.com Bowl), Arkan­sas (Liberty Bowl) and Ken­tucky (Music City Bowl) learned their fates as well.



Announcements were pre­pared. They were scheduled to occur Tuesday.

Then the SEC office inter­vened.

It put a moratorium on final agreements because of a poten­tial snag. Officials from the Bowl Championship Series were unwilling to guarantee a BCS berth for the loser of Satur­day's SEC Championship game.

Florida is No. 1. Alabama is No. 2.

The lesser of those two teams surely is worthy of a top-tier bowl -- each would be consid­ered a favorite in the national ti­tle game -- but the BCS refused to provide a guarantee.

The move appears to be polit­ical.

A group of politicians voiced concerns earlier this year about the BCS and its relevance. A simple House resolution created to commend Florida on its 2008 BCS championship elicited 12 votes of either "no" or "pres­ent." Some still believe a playoff remains the only equitable way to determine a championship.

Those critics believe the BCS wields too much control.

So the BCS officials played it smart with the SEC by declining to promise anything. They said the games determine all and, at least in their own mind, took a stand against their critics by holding out.

Maybe it will work. Maybe one critic will change position.

Still, Alabama and Florida will finish their seasons in BCS bowls. The deals hammered out throughout the SEC earlier this week, currently delayed by the possibility of accommodating a BCS castoff, will stick.

A week of ticket sales will be lost. So it goes.

Who says the best drama is saved for the field?
Next
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 12:15:22 PM »
While I do believe the Athletic Director known as JJ did partake in the Bowl Agreements, this article doesn't really talk about his involvement.  - Jus sayin :poke:
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 12:22:08 PM »
While I do believe the Athletic Director known as JJ did partake in the Bowl Agreements, this article doesn't really talk about his involvement.  - Jus sayin :poke:

"The past few days have been tense throughout the league. Athletic directors have been talking with bowl representa­tives and promoting the best ele­ments of their programs -- and their fan bases -- in an effort to distinguish themselves."

"Auburn was perhaps the most proactive program, work­ing feverishly to secure a com­mitment from the Outback Bowl. The game, played on Jan. 1 in Tampa, has selected an East­ern Division program during each of the past 13 seasons
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May not mention him by name, but who do you think they are talking about?

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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2009, 12:23:37 PM »
Wonder where Ole Miss and TN will land.
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2009, 12:24:42 PM »
Wonder where Ole Miss and TN will land.

Ole Miss = Cotton
UT = Chicken Bowl
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2009, 12:26:04 PM »
"The past few days have been tense throughout the league. Athletic directors have been talking with bowl representa­tives and promoting the best ele­ments of their programs -- and their fan bases -- in an effort to distinguish themselves."

"Auburn was perhaps the most proactive program, work­ing feverishly to secure a com­mitment from the Outback Bowl. The game, played on Jan. 1 in Tampa, has selected an East­ern Division program during each of the past 13 seasons
."

May not mention him by name, but who do you think they are talking about?


Like I siad I don't disagree with you, I guess I was just expecting more.
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2009, 12:28:18 PM »
Where's the mustache?
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 12:31:13 PM »
Like I siad I don't disagree with you, I guess I was just expecting more.

That's what your wife said
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2009, 12:33:27 PM »
That's what your wife said
How did you know that, I was hoping you didn't hear us talking about you.  Damn sorry bro.
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2009, 12:34:50 PM »
How did you know that, I was hoping you didn't hear us talking about you.  Damn sorry bro.

She didn't say that about me......did she?
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2009, 01:39:07 PM »
I thought he had nothing to do with the Outback Bid?

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20091203/SPORTS0402/912030339/1002/sports/Some-of-the-best-drama-comes-before-bowl-games

Auburn officials =  JJ and the Athletic dept


Is this a great bowl season or what?



 

The games don't begin for 16 days, but the plot already has taken more turns than a Ste­phen King novel. Nowhere is the excitement more gripping than in the Southeastern Conference, where half a dozen teams fin­ished with 7-5 records and find themselves lobbying for better bowl position.

The competition has been fierce.

After all, the right bowl can create advantages that last for years. Power is rooted in re­cruiting. Recruiting, in many ways, is rooted in exposure.

Bigger bowls with attractive dates and more national exclu­sivity can help create buzz throughout the recruiting world. Prospects know which programs are making progress.

They also can see which teams are sliding.

The past few days have been tense throughout the league. Athletic directors have been talking with bowl representa­tives and promoting the best ele­ments of their programs -- and their fan bases -- in an effort to distinguish themselves.

If everyone is 7-5, it takes more than a record to curry fa­vor.

Auburn was perhaps the most proactive program, work­ing feverishly to secure a com­mitment from the Outback Bowl. The game, played on Jan. 1 in Tampa, has selected an East­ern Division program during each of the past 13 seasons.

The Tigers didn't care. They wanted to be in Tampa.

And they apparently made it work.

Auburn officials had three novel elements working in their favor. Coach Gene Chizik is a native of nearby Clearwater, Fla., and courted his wife there during the early 1990s. It's a good story.

Gus Malzahn's offense is ex­citing, innovative and notewor­thy. It's a good story.

Auburn's fan base, excluded from the postseason fray in 2008, is enthusiastic about the team's renaissance. If Chizik somehow could move his team into a New Year's Day bowl during his first season, fans would feel even more strongly about making the trip to Florida.

Everything was in place. Outback Bowl officials, who ini­tially felt compelled to invite Tennessee, instead worked with officials from the Chick-fil-A Bowl and found the Vols a closer postseason home.
(2 of 2)


Other bowls with SEC tie-ins made their agreements as well. Georgia settled with the Inde­pendence Bowl. South Carolina (Papajohns.com Bowl), Arkan­sas (Liberty Bowl) and Ken­tucky (Music City Bowl) learned their fates as well.



Announcements were pre­pared. They were scheduled to occur Tuesday.

Then the SEC office inter­vened.

It put a moratorium on final agreements because of a poten­tial snag. Officials from the Bowl Championship Series were unwilling to guarantee a BCS berth for the loser of Satur­day's SEC Championship game.

Florida is No. 1. Alabama is No. 2.

The lesser of those two teams surely is worthy of a top-tier bowl -- each would be consid­ered a favorite in the national ti­tle game -- but the BCS refused to provide a guarantee.

The move appears to be polit­ical.

A group of politicians voiced concerns earlier this year about the BCS and its relevance. A simple House resolution created to commend Florida on its 2008 BCS championship elicited 12 votes of either "no" or "pres­ent." Some still believe a playoff remains the only equitable way to determine a championship.

Those critics believe the BCS wields too much control.

So the BCS officials played it smart with the SEC by declining to promise anything. They said the games determine all and, at least in their own mind, took a stand against their critics by holding out.

Maybe it will work. Maybe one critic will change position.

Still, Alabama and Florida will finish their seasons in BCS bowls. The deals hammered out throughout the SEC earlier this week, currently delayed by the possibility of accommodating a BCS castoff, will stick.

A week of ticket sales will be lost. So it goes.

Who says the best drama is saved for the field?
Next

I believe all I've ever said is show me some proof, some actual evidence that Jacobs was the architect or the negotiator and then you have something. 

Again -- even with this article -- all we have are some "he must have" and "he probably" when there it nothing to confirm such.
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2009, 02:06:57 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't bowl officials come and watch some games closer to the end of the season? Weren't there some folks from the Outback Bowl at the Iron Bowl, along with folks from some other bowls? I can't imagine a team getting a bowl bid and an AD having absolutely no involvement whatsoever. As if a phone call mysteriously comes out of the blue offering the appearance and he's like "Wow, I wonder how they picked us?" I'm not saying the guy camped out at the front stoop of the committe's office for weeks or anything, but I mean, there is no way an AD is not involved in some way, shape, or form when it comes to getting a bowl game. Especially a bowl game that picked you over a team with the same record, that beat you, and just got through beating the #7 team in the country not even a whole week prior.
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2009, 02:13:09 PM »
I believe all I've ever said is show me some proof, some actual evidence that Jacobs was the architect or the negotiator and then you have something. 

Again -- even with this article -- all we have are some "he must have" and "he probably" when there it nothing to confirm such.

I'm sure he had some input.  He's no "architect" of any kind though.  Bowl officials were at Auburn and saw the crowd.  The SEC, not the schools, guarentee 11k in tix sales.  Auburn historically travels well, and especially to a bowl in a good climate.  Auburn's crowd on friday, and it's reputation earned us the top tier of the 7-5 teams.  Other than that, there was no real logical reason to choose one or the other, all beat some other 7-5 team.  Auburn beat Ole Miss.  The gig on Auburn was our SEC streak in the last 5 SEC games.  Still, we beat 8-4 Ole Miss, who in turn got waxed by MSU who Auburn pounded earlier...bottom line is you'd have to search for a logical reason to pick one over the other based on W/Ls, and so it came down to who sells tickets, and who looks good on TV.  Auburn was the answer.
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2009, 02:21:02 PM »
Besides what would you rather see on TV this

:vn:

or this?

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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2009, 02:24:33 PM »
Besides what would you rather see on TV this

:vn:

or this?



I vote for the first one
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2009, 02:32:26 PM »
more boobs, less cox.
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2009, 02:53:03 PM »
more boobs, less cox.


Oh shut up.  You love teh Cox.
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2009, 04:24:16 PM »
 "When we heard the Auburn fans chanting at the end of Fridays game 'Its great to be an Auburn Tiger' we knew there was something special about the excitement around this football team. The Tigers have everything we are looking for in a New Years Day team-They are a tough, exciting team, extremely well coached, and have what might be the best fans in College Football." -Jim McVay, Outback Bowl President/CEO   :vn:
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2009, 05:10:10 PM »
"When we heard the Auburn fans chanting at the end of Fridays game 'Its great to be an Auburn Tiger' we knew there was something special about the excitement around this football team. The Tigers have everything we are looking for in a New Years Day team-They are a tough, exciting team, extremely well coached, and have what might be the best fans in College Football." -Jim McVay, Outback Bowl President/CEO   :vn:

Conspicuously absent from this quote?  Jay Jacobs.
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Re: This Article Seems To Give Alot Of Credit To JJ
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2009, 06:03:14 PM »
Conspicuously absent from this quote?  Jay Jacobs.
Ok, you win. Jay Jacobs had no part in it. Even though that's his job. It's logical to assume that the Outback Bowl's committee went through the bowl fairy instead.
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