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Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« on: December 02, 2009, 10:42:13 AM »
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Auburn Is Winner In SEC Bowl Sweepstakes

You just never know what's going to happen. That's why we love college football. In a matter of days, the Auburn football team has gone from nearly beating its heavily favored archrival to grabbing an invitation in a New Year's Day bowl. Not too shabby for an unheralded first year coach.

Tuesday's news of Auburn securing a spot in the Outback Bowl sounded almost too good to be true. As late as Monday night it appeared the Tigers were all but certain to be headed to Shreveport and the Independence Bowl. With six SEC teams sharing 7-5 records, there's no arguing Auburn came out the big winner among those teams. In the end, Auburn beat out both Tennessee and Ole Miss for the spot.

How Auburn officials pulled it off is the million dollar question tonight. Some may argue the point, but there's little doubt Friday's performance in the Iron Bowl persuaded Outback Bowl officials. But it didn't stop there. Auburn Undercover senior writer Phillip Marshall offered the best explanation for how Gene Chizik's first team landed the gig.

According to his sources, there were several things that pushed bowl officials toward Auburn.  Despite having identical 4-4 conference marks (one better than Auburn), the Outback Bowl felt the Tigers were more deserving than Tennessee and Ole Miss because they defeated both schools in the regular season. Auburn's 3-5 conference mark apparently didn't hurt them in the end.

Another factor in choosing the Tigers are the number of Auburn graduates in the Tampa area. Bowl officials say Auburn has significantly more alumni and fans in the region than Tennessee and Ole Miss. Coming off the surprising Iron Bowl, Marshall said bowl officials felt Auburn fans would be motivated to buy more tickets than other schools.

The fact Auburn hasn't played in the game since 1995 was also a factor. Perhaps what hurt Tennessee most was the lack of tickets sold during the Volunteers last visit to the game. Auburn officials fully expect to sell its entire allotment of tickets.

The big loser in the Auburn bid appears to be Georgia. It now looks like Tennessee is headed to the Chick-Fil-A Bowl (instead of Georgia) and the Rebels are going back to Dallas for the Cotton Bowl. That leaves Georgia with few good options. They now have three possible destinations - Shreveport, Birmingham or Nashville.

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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2009, 12:26:55 PM »
Where was the part about Jay Jacobs riding in on his white steed and claiming the bid for AU while slaying other contenders?  I guess they just left that out of the story. 
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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2009, 12:35:13 PM »
Where was the part about Jay Jacobs riding in on his white steed and claiming the bid for AU while slaying other contenders?  I guess they just left that out of the story. 
I just thought that part was understood.
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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2009, 12:59:08 PM »
Where was the part about Jay Jacobs riding in on his white steed and claiming the bid for AU while slaying other contenders?  I guess they just left that out of the story. 

I saw nothing of a white steed but I would say he was included here.

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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 02:10:49 PM »
I saw nothing of a white steed but I would say he was included here.


And then goes on to list myriad reasons that have nothing to do with the athletic department at all. 

Yeah.  That makes super sense. 
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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 02:12:16 PM »
And then goes on to list myriad reasons that have nothing to do with the athletic department at all. 

Yeah.  That makes super sense. 

maybe. maybe not.

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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 02:17:46 PM »
And then goes on to list myriad reasons that have nothing to do with the athletic department at all. 

Yeah.  That makes super sense. 


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the Outback Bowl felt the Tigers were more deserving than Tennessee and Ole Miss because they defeated both schools in the regular season.

The Athletic Department is not responsible, in the end, for this?

Am I nitpicking...or missing something here?  I'm no Jacobs fan either, but those wins didn't occur out of sheer circumstance, Mr. Moustache.
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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2009, 02:42:57 PM »

The Athletic Department is not responsible, in the end, for this?

Am I nitpicking...or missing something here?  I'm no Jacobs fan either, but those wins didn't occur out of sheer circumstance, Mr. Moustache.

Yes.  Those wins were the direct result of the magnificent leadership of Jay Jacobs. 

Does the phrase "in spite of" have any meaning?
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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2009, 03:02:07 PM »
Yes.  Those wins were the direct result of the magnificent leadership of Jay Jacobs. 

Does the phrase "in spite of" have any meaning?

Out of curiosity what would be the story if we go to the Papa Johns bowl in lovely d'town Birmingham?

Would Jacobs also have had nothing to do with it?
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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2009, 03:11:04 PM »
Out of curiosity what would be the story if we go to the Papa Johns bowl in lovely d'town Birmingham?

Would Jacobs also have had nothing to do with it?
That might leave a mark.
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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2009, 03:28:41 PM »
That might leave a mark.
I am not trying to be an ass about it, I am truly trying to understand because up to this point for the most part I don't. 

I get that you don't like him.  I don't either particularly.

But I also know that not every good OR bad thing that happens to Auburn athletics is his doing.

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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2009, 03:43:38 PM »
I am not trying to be an ass about it, I am truly trying to understand because up to this point for the most part I don't. 

I get that you don't like him.  I don't either particularly.

But I also know that not every good OR bad thing that happens to Auburn athletics is his doing.




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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2009, 03:47:44 PM »
Out of curiosity what would be the story if we go to the Papa Johns bowl in lovely d'town Birmingham?

Would Jacobs also have had nothing to do with it?

Asked and answered.   

See the other thread.
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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2009, 03:48:35 PM »

But I also know that not every good OR bad thing that happens to Auburn athletics is his doing.



I blame Obama when it rains.  

This is an issue only because I questioned the "Huzzah Jay, Huzzah!" shit when the bowl was announced.  As if it was entirely his doing or something. 

Did he have a part in it?  If what I hear is true, he guaranteed to buy all the tickets if they picked Auburn.  Although that smells somewhat of desperation and prostitution, if it worked to outflank Ole Miss and Tennessee then he gets credit for that (unless it costs us a shitload of money, which will depend on whether the tickets can be resold in the volume he expects).  That's only a rumor, though, and has no verification yet. 

From what Phillip Marshall wrote -- and was referenced here -- the bowl officials made an independent decision based on a number of factors -- none of which involved Jacobs in any way, shape or form.
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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2009, 03:50:21 PM »
I blame Obama when it rains. 

I blame him for everything. Premature ejaculation, spilling the salt, extra mayo when I asked for extra pickles, Amelia Earhardt, Bill Buckner. Pretty much everything.
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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2009, 03:59:14 PM »
I blame Obama when it rains.  

This is an issue only because I questioned the "Huzzah Jay, Huzzah!" shit when the bowl was announced.  As if it was entirely his doing or something. 

Did he have a part in it?  If what I hear is true, he guaranteed to buy all the tickets if they picked Auburn.  Although that smells somewhat of desperation and prostitution, if it worked to outflank Ole Miss and Tennessee then he gets credit for that (unless it costs us a shitload of money, which will depend on whether the tickets can be resold in the volume he expects).  That's only a rumor, though, and has no verification yet. 

From what Phillip Marshall wrote -- and was referenced here -- the bowl officials made an independent decision based on a number of factors -- none of which involved Jacobs in any way, shape or form.

IF he guaranteed to buy all the tickets if we were picked I would actually commend him openly.  That seems like promising to keep breathing.  Even in shit economical times we travel.
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« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2009, 04:01:58 PM »
IF he guaranteed to buy all the tickets if we were picked I would actually commend him openly.  That seems like promising to keep breathing.  Even in shit economical times we travel.


That's because we are Auburn.  People work for us.
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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2009, 04:05:40 PM »
How many tickets would each school be allotted?
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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2009, 04:23:02 PM »
I blame Obama when it rains.  
This makes sense. Letting your hatred of someone or something blind you in such a way that you impulsively jump to a completely illogical and irrational finger-pointing.

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This is an issue only because I questioned the "Huzzah Jay, Huzzah!" shit when the bowl was announced.  As if it was entirely his doing or something.
Link?

You must have been referring to my half-sarcastic "That damn Jay Jacobs." Guess what? I'm not the guy's biggest fan either. But I'm not so stubborn and myopic as to not give credit where credit is due. Even with all of those reasons that you claim Jay Jacobs had nothing to do with, guess who brokered the deal? Guess who convinced them that those reasons were valid? I'm sorry it doesn't support your mantra, but it was Jay Jacobs.

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Did he have a part in it?  If what I hear is true, he guaranteed to buy all the tickets if they picked Auburn.  Although that smells somewhat of desperation and prostitution, if it worked to outflank Ole Miss and Tennessee then he gets credit for that (unless it costs us a shitload of money, which will depend on whether the tickets can be resold in the volume he expects).  That's only a rumor, though, and has no verification yet. 
I can guarantee we sell out the tickets as well. We travel well. No one's following you or Greasey's boycott attempts. This season turned out to be a beacon of hope for those that aren't dogmatically sticking to their guns that it would be an epic disaster.

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From what Phillip Marshall wrote -- and was referenced here -- the bowl officials made an independent decision based on a number of factors -- none of which involved Jacobs in any way, shape or form.
Just plain wrong. Flat out ignoring the sentence that Sani highlighted. Flat out shutting off any common sense that would tell you that the Athletic Director was directly involved in selling Auburn to the Outback Bowl. Par for the course.
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Re: Decent Read On The Outback Bowl Selection
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2009, 04:31:11 PM »
This makes sense. Letting your hatred of someone or something blind you in such a way that you impulsively jump to a completely illogical and irrational finger-pointing.
Link?

You must have been referring to my half-sarcastic "That damn Jay Jacobs." Guess what? I'm not the guy's biggest fan either. But I'm not so stubborn and myopic as to not give credit where credit is due. Even with all of those reasons that you claim Jay Jacobs had nothing to do with, guess who brokered the deal? Guess who convinced them that those reasons were valid? I'm sorry it doesn't support your mantra, but it was Jay Jacobs.
I can guarantee we sell out the tickets as well. We travel well. No one's following you or Greasey's boycott attempts. This season turned out to be a beacon of hope for those that aren't dogmatically sticking to their guns that it would be an epic disaster.
Just plain wrong. Flat out ignoring the sentence that Sani highlighted. Flat out shutting off any common sense that would tell you that the Athletic Director was directly involved in selling Auburn to the Outback Bowl. Par for the course.

Chizad, I agree with you on most of the above except the part where the rain is Obama's fault. I don't know how you can't see this. It rained all fucking day today. And its his fault. What part of that don't you understand? Sheesh.   :rolleyes:
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