This Weekend and Beyond

AUsweetheart · « **Reply #20 on:** October 27, 2009, 05:05:14 PM »

Quote from: Harvey Birdman on October 27, 2009, 03:16:49 PM

Is he retarded?

He's retodded. Same thing.

dallaswareagle · « **Reply #21 on:** October 27, 2009, 05:19:39 PM »

Quote from: townhallsavoy on October 27, 2009, 04:52:18 PM

Ole Miss has a defense. We're fucked.

Fixed it for ya.

jadennis · « **Reply #22 on:** October 27, 2009, 05:47:45 PM »

Most likely you're all right....we are most likely fucked, if the last three games are any indication.

BUT....we have to remember, our first five games weren't Ball State, Ball State, Ball State, Ball State, Ball State. We did beat a 6-1 West Virginia team. We did absolutely destroy (nearly 600 yards) a Mississippi State team that's holding it's own with other top SEC teams. We did just put 459 yards on Tennessee (who had given up 323 to Florida before they played us, and 241 to Georgia and 256 to Alabama right after they played us). So Florida, Georgia, and Alabama averaged 273 yards on Tennessee. We racked up a relatively easy 459.

You can say Mississippi State has gotten better. But Tennessee was already playing good defense when we got them on October 3rd.

What ever we had is missing. But at least we HAD something. The fact that we had it means we're still capable of doing it again. Everyone talking about this being the lowest time you can ever remember....can't you remember to just last year? From beginning to end we never had anything going last year. Remember LA-Monroe, Southern Miss, and Mississippi State last year? In those first three games we never showed we were capable of anything. That was the most helpless I've ever felt watching an Auburn offense, by far.

This group can do it, and we have watched them do it...this year, against decent teams like Tennessee, West Virginia, and Mississippi State.

Like I said, the trend isn't good, but we can't say we have no reason to think they can turn it around. It was just turned around less than a month ago. Can we get it back? I don't know, but at least we have some reason to think it could happen.

The Prowler · « **Reply #23 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:07:51 PM »

The bammers get to use the "We were just so tired out there" line.....tell me, how fuckin' tired do y'all think Auburn is with all that depth that we have on Defense? And not just on Defense, but think about this for a second, a hurry up no huddle fast type of offense can somewhat wear out the offense too. I'm happy that Auburn took Sunday off to watch film of the LSU game and to mentally correct their mistakes....I'm hoping that they have an easy "get your legs back under you" type of practice today while they're installing their game plan for Ole Miss.

ibelonginprison · « **Reply #24 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:22:28 PM »

Quote from: jadennis on October 27, 2009, 05:47:45 PM

Most likely you're all right....we are most likely fucked, if the last three games are any indication.

BUT....we have to remember, our first five games weren't Ball State, Ball State, Ball State, Ball State, Ball State. We did beat a 6-1 West Virginia team. We did absolutely destroy (nearly 600 yards) a Mississippi State team that's holding it's own with other top SEC teams. We did just put 459 yards on Tennessee (who had given up 323 to Florida before they played us, and 241 to Georgia and 256 to Alabama right after they played us). So Florida, Georgia, and Alabama averaged 273 yards on Tennessee. We racked up a relatively easy 459.

You can say Mississippi State has gotten better. But Tennessee was already playing good defense when we got them on October 3rd.

What ever we had is missing. But at least we HAD something. The fact that we had it means we're still capable of doing it again. Everyone talking about this being the lowest time you can ever remember....can't you remember to just last year? From beginning to end we never had anything going last year. Remember LA-Monroe, Southern Miss, and Mississippi State last year? In those first three games we never showed we were capable of anything. That was the most helpless I've ever felt watching an Auburn offense, by far.

This group can do it, and we have watched them do it...this year, against decent teams like Tennessee, West Virginia, and Mississippi State.

Like I said, the trend isn't good, but we can't say we have no reason to think they can turn it around. It was just turned around less than a month ago. Can we get it back? I don't know, but at least we have some reason to think it could happen.

Quote from: The Prowler on October 27, 2009, 06:07:51 PM

The bammers get to use the "We were just so tired out there" line.....tell me, how fuckin' tired do y'all think Auburn is with all that depth that we have on Defense? And not just on Defense, but think about this for a second, a hurry up no huddle fast type of offense can somewhat wear out the offense too. I'm happy that Auburn took Sunday off to watch film of the LSU game and to mentally correct their mistakes....I'm hoping that they have an easy "get your legs back under you" type of practice today while they're installing their game plan for Ole Miss.

Argo · « **Reply #25 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:31:53 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on October 27, 2009, 06:07:51 PM

The bammers get to use the "We were just so tired out there" line.....tell me, how fuckin' tired do y'all think Auburn is with all that depth that we have on Defense? And not just on Defense, but think about this for a second, a hurry up no huddle fast type of offense can somewhat wear out the offense too. I'm happy that Auburn took Sunday off to watch film of the LSU game and to mentally correct their mistakes....I'm hoping that they have an easy "get your legs back under you" type of practice today while they're installing their game plan for Ole Miss.

For the record, we were told in the midst of "the streak" that depth and scholarship problems was bullshit and not a valid excuse.

ibelonginprison · « **Reply #26 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:25:47 PM »

When you get beat the fuck up for 8 weeks straight, playing way more snaps than if you had a decent backup sitting on the bench waiting to give you a breather................ you get tired.

Now, the problem is... I don't know what to think any more about this depth bullshit or not. Troy University had no depth, and they used to come out like a fucking rocket in the first half... but it always caught up with them towards the end of the game. Everyone is tired, and the other "higher teams" could just keep swapping fresh people in and out. But each week, for two quarters, they put on a damn show.

There's no real valid excuse/explanation/reason for our offense waking up without the use of their arms the past three weeks.

RWS · « **Reply #27 on:** October 27, 2009, 08:12:22 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on October 27, 2009, 06:07:51 PM

The bammers get to use the "We were just so tired out there" line.....tell me, how fuckin' tired do y'all think Auburn is with all that depth that we have on Defense? And not just on Defense, but think about this for a second, a hurry up no huddle fast type of offense can somewhat wear out the offense too. I'm happy that Auburn took Sunday off to watch film of the LSU game and to mentally correct their mistakes....I'm hoping that they have an easy "get your legs back under you" type of practice today while they're installing their game plan for Ole Miss.

If you think AU's defense is playing at the same level or playing as hard as Alabama's, you're out of your mind. If I recall correctly, I told you that the offense scoring in less than 2 minutes was going to wear AU's defense slap the fuck out every game. As it stands now, your offense going 3-and-out in 2 minutes is doing it as well. That was YOUR coach's choice to run that offense. YOUR coach should have known what running that offense was going to do to your defense. I told you that you're not going to be able to have SEC caliber offensive linemen that can stand up week in and week out against an SEC caliber DL and be able to run the offense at the pace Malzahn wants to run. I'm sure when I told you this, you spouted out some stupid shit about how this was possibly one of the best staffs in NCAA ball and they wouldn't let that happen or something equally homerish. It sounds about right.

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #28 on:** October 27, 2009, 08:45:34 PM »

Quote from: Argo on October 27, 2009, 06:31:53 PM

For the record, we were told in the midst of "the streak" that depth and scholarship problems was bullshit and not a valid excuse.

It was and is bullshit and not a valid excuse.

It wasn't brought up when we were 5-0. There were a few people saying "this staff is doing a lot with a little." No Auburn fans were predicting a horrible end to the season due to depth and rightfully so. Chizik proved he can win with 71 scholarship players.

Now he's proving he can be terrifyingly inconsistent. Sometime between a monumental victory at Tennessee and Arkansas going up 34-3, Chizik forgot what he was doing. Something happened. Someone got complacement, and I can take a wild guess at who.

The Prowler · « **Reply #29 on:** October 27, 2009, 09:06:13 PM »

Quote from: townhallsavoy on October 27, 2009, 08:45:34 PM

It was and is bullshit and not a valid excuse.

It wasn't brought up when we were 5-0. There were a few people saying "this staff is doing a lot with a little." No Auburn fans were predicting a horrible end to the season due to depth and rightfully so. Chizik proved he can win with 71 scholarship players.

Now he's proving he can be terrifyingly inconsistent. Sometime between a monumental victory at Tennessee and Arkansas going up 34-3, Chizik forgot what he was doing. Something happened. Someone got complacement, and I can take a wild guess at who.

Dax Dallenbach?

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #30 on:** October 27, 2009, 09:28:12 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on October 27, 2009, 09:06:13 PM

Dax Dallenbach?

This has been a failure of Daxian proportions

Godfather · « **Reply #31 on:** October 28, 2009, 08:11:28 AM »

None of this explains being tired on an opening drive.

GH2001 · « **Reply #32 on:** October 28, 2009, 09:48:20 AM »

Quote from: Godfather on October 28, 2009, 08:11:28 AM

None of this explains being tired on an opening drive.

I have yet to see anyone explain this.......

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #33 on:** October 28, 2009, 09:50:30 AM »

Quote from: GH2001 on October 28, 2009, 09:48:20 AM

I have yet to see anyone explain this.......

I lay the blame solely on the Tiger Walk.

jadennis · « **Reply #34 on:** October 28, 2009, 10:34:53 AM »

Quote from: RWS on October 27, 2009, 08:12:22 PM

I told you that you're not going to be able to have SEC caliber offensive linemen that can stand up week in and week out against an SEC caliber DL and be able to run the offense at the pace Malzahn wants to run.

I don't think I'm buying this. It sounds very similar to the theories we heard when Meyer went to Florida. "you can't run that spread crap in the SEC....there's too much speed in the SEC". (that may or may not have been a direct quote from you).

Oklahoma runs an 80-play pace too. And while the Big 12 in general may not quite have the lines that the SEC has, it's also not the Sun Belt. It can work.

The offense isn't working right now, but it's not because the o-line is huffing and puffing after the first quarter. Not to mention, our offense is getting plenty of rest right now because our suck-ass defense is out on the field for 45 minutes getting run over. If anything our offensive line should come in each series refreshed and ready to plow down the field.

Watch that Tennessee game. We ran up a relatively easy 459 yards on them. They were gassed, we weren't. They called a couple time outs just to take a rest, nothing else. That was our fifth game of the year. How much more tired could the o-line have been in game six than we were in game five?

Saniflush · « **Reply #35 on:** October 28, 2009, 10:40:01 AM »

Quote from: jadennis on October 28, 2009, 10:34:53 AM

I don't think I'm buying this. It sounds very similar to the theories we heard when Meyer went to Florida. "you can't run that spread crap in the SEC....there's too much speed in the SEC". (that may or may not have been a direct quote from you).

Oklahoma runs an 80-play pace too. And while the Big 12 in general may not quite have the lines that the SEC has, it's also not the Sun Belt. It can work.

The offense isn't working right now, but it's not because the o-line is huffing and puffing after the first quarter. Not to mention, our offense is getting plenty of rest right now because our suck-ass defense is out on the field for 45 minutes getting run over. If anything our offensive line should come in each series refreshed and ready to plow down the field.

Watch that Tennessee game. We ran up a relatively easy 459 yards on them. They were gassed, we weren't. They called a couple time outs just to take a rest, nothing else. That was our fifth game of the year. How much more tired could the o-line have been in game six than we were in game five?

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Hogwally · « **Reply #36 on:** October 28, 2009, 12:00:06 PM »

I think part of the blame goes to the play of your freshman running back. He looked like a world beater the first part of the season, then Sat he was running out of bounds 2 yards before a little defensive back was going to hit him. Not sure if he is overworked, hurt, or just scared, but he's not the running back he was 4 weeks ago.

RWS · « **Reply #37 on:** October 28, 2009, 12:18:16 PM »

Quote from: jadennis on October 28, 2009, 10:34:53 AM

I don't think I'm buying this. It sounds very similar to the theories we heard when Meyer went to Florida. "you can't run that spread crap in the SEC....there's too much speed in the SEC". (that may or may not have been a direct quote from you).

Oklahoma runs an 80-play pace too. And while the Big 12 in general may not quite have the lines that the SEC has, it's also not the Sun Belt. It can work.

The offense isn't working right now, but it's not because the o-line is huffing and puffing after the first quarter. Not to mention, our offense is getting plenty of rest right now because our suck-ass defense is out on the field for 45 minutes getting run over. If anything our offensive line should come in each series refreshed and ready to plow down the field.

Watch that Tennessee game. We ran up a relatively easy 459 yards on them. They were gassed, we weren't. They called a couple time outs just to take a rest, nothing else. That was our fifth game of the year. How much more tired could the o-line have been in game six than we were in game five?

Prowler seems to think the offense being tired may be an issue, and thats what I responded to. Florida's offense isn't really a HUNH type offense. You see them huddle plenty. You don't see them get down ready and snap the ball as soon as its placed. So I don't see why comparing that to AU's offense means anything. Furthermore, Meyer's offense has proven to its detractors that it will in fact work. Malzahn's? Not so much. Can it work? Yes. Can it work in the SEC? I really don't think so. I just don't think a 6'4 300 lb DL in the Big 12 equals the same thing in the SEC.

jadennis · « **Reply #38 on:** October 28, 2009, 12:25:10 PM »

Quote from: Hogwally on October 28, 2009, 12:00:06 PM

I think part of the blame goes to the play of your freshman running back. He looked like a world beater the first part of the season, then Sat he was running out of bounds 2 yards before a little defensive back was going to hit him. Not sure if he is overworked, hurt, or just scared, but he's not the running back he was 4 weeks ago.

I've noticed that too. He seems like he's running toward the sideline to get to the edge, and if he doesn't get there he just goes straight out of bounds....he never decides to just turn it up field at some point and least get a couple yards. I get the feeling he likes to run through giant holes and in open space. Whatever it is he's basically disappeared.

And if it is his ankle, then he needs to sit down and let it heel. What I did like was seeing Fannin running from a typical running back spot in the 4th when Caudle was in. I feel like he does much better there. When he's in too much space it's almost like he's too intent on finding the huge play and long run and takes too much time being indecisive. From the backfield he sees everything in front of him and seems to be more deliberate in where he goes.

Godfather · « **Reply #39 on:** October 28, 2009, 12:35:09 PM »

Quote from: jadennis on October 28, 2009, 12:25:10 PM

I've noticed that too. He seems like he's running toward the sideline to get to the edge, and if he doesn't get there he just goes straight out of bounds....he never decides to just turn it up field at some point and least get a couple yards. I get the feeling he likes to run through giant holes and in open space. Whatever it is he's basically disappeared.

And if it is his ankle, then he needs to sit down and let it heel. What I did like was seeing Fannin running from a typical running back spot in the 4th when Caudle was in. I feel like he does much better there. When he's in too much space it's almost like he's too intent on finding the huge play and long run and takes too much time being indecisive. From the backfield he sees everything in front of him and seems to be more deliberate in where he goes.

In the words of PCT "Eric Smith please come to the front desk...Eric Smith please come to the front desk...Thank you"