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I thought this was a dead issue? Whatever could be the problem?
« on: September 02, 2009, 01:25:01 PM »
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Saban: Jones, Ingram's status up to the NCAA

September 2, 2009 12:55 PM

Posted by ESPN.com's Chris Low

The Julio Jones and Mark Ingram watch continues, and you could almost hear the frustration in Alabama coach Nick Saban's voice when he was asked about it Wednesday on the SEC teleconference.

Saban said it wouldn't be his decision as to whether Jones and Ingram would be allowed to play Saturday night against Virginia Tech.

"I think that's up to the NCAA. I don't think it's my decision to do anything," said Saban, adding that he remains hopeful there will be some resolution prior to the game.

"We are hoping for a response, and we want to do what we need to do to do things the right way from a program standpoint and for the players' best interest. I think the institution has handled the situation with tremendous professional integrity. We're hopeful that we'll have some kind of resolution to this situation in the short term."

If there is no word from the NCAA prior to the game, Saban wouldn't get into how the Crimson Tide might adjust without two of its best offensive players.

"I'm not really into speculating on what might be," Saban said. "I've got enough problems with what is. Let's just focus on what is."

At issue is a Gulf Coast fishing trip Jones and Ingram took last spring with a 56-year-old man from Athens, Ala., whom Alabama compliance officials have determined was not a Crimson Tide booster. Alabama spent the summer investigating the matter and has met with NCAA enforcement representatives.

So why the delay when Alabama hasn't self-reported anything at this point?

That's the frustrating and unnerving part for the Crimson Tide, who've obviously been around the block a few times with the NCAA over the past two decades.

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/5553/saban-jones-ingrams-status-up-to-the-ncaa
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Re: I thought this was a dead issue? Whatever could be the problem?
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2009, 01:28:07 PM »
All smoke and mirrors here folks.  Nothing to see here, move along now.....
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Re: I thought this was a dead issue? Whatever could be the problem?
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2009, 01:40:55 PM »
I fucking hate the NCAA.  Didn't Alabama fly their findings up there a while back?  Hasn't this been on the table for months?  Just send a damn fax and be done with it.  Holy crap, what else does that compliance department have to do?

That being said, The Julio and Ingram being held out would be a well placed shot just under the rib cage for this offense.
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Re: I thought this was a dead issue? Whatever could be the problem?
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2009, 01:42:03 PM »
Just trying to throw off VT in their preparations.  Once the game starts Hoolio and ingram will hit the field and the Hokies won't know what hit them.
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Re: I thought this was a dead issue? Whatever could be the problem?
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2009, 01:51:43 PM »
I fucking hate the NCAA.  Didn't Alabama fly their findings up there a while back?  Hasn't this been on the table for months?  Just send a damn fax and be done with it.  Holy crap, what else does that compliance department have to do?

That being said, The Julio and Ingram being held out would be a well placed shot just under the rib cage for this offense.
More like in the arm, ricocheting into the leg.
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Re: I thought this was a dead issue? Whatever could be the problem?
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2009, 02:01:54 PM »
More like in the arm, ricocheting into the leg.

Rim shot.
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Re: I thought this was a dead issue? Whatever could be the problem?
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2009, 02:08:28 PM »
More like in the arm, ricocheting into the leg.
Chad are you being mean again.  :no:
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Re: I thought this was a dead issue? Whatever could be the problem?
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2009, 07:02:43 PM »
More like in the arm, ricocheting into the leg.
I guffawed.
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Re: I thought this was a dead issue? Whatever could be the problem?
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2009, 08:43:49 PM »
Per NCAA, JJ and MI are good to go. Fuck all y'all.

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The NCAA student-athlete reinstatement staff has reinstated the eligibility of University of Alabama football student-athletes Julio Jones and Mark Ingram based on a condition of repayment.

According to the facts of the case submitted by Alabama, the student-athletes received impermissible food, lodging, transportation and entertainment from an individual with whom one of the student-athletes had become acquainted prior to enrolling in college.

Consistent with NCAA membership requirements, the institution reported the violation and declared the student-athletes ineligible. As part of the reinstatement request, the institution required the student-athletes to make repayment of the value of the impermissible benefits to charity.

During the reinstatement process, the NCAA staff considers a number of factors including guidelines established by the NCAA Division I Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement, relevant case precedent, the student-athlete’s responsibility for the violation, as well as any mitigating factors presented by the institution.
So, players take heed, even if somebody isn't a booster, etc, you can still get hit for what would be considered a gift. The guy wasn't a booster, he has sent kids thru AU, and his business partner is an AU donor (according to this: https://develop.auburn.edu/recognition/honor-friends.html). But hey, whatever.
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