Looks like it's gonna be Todd...

[Kaos]

Come on.  You can say it.  "Somebody at Auburn" = Tuberville and staff.  They are the ones directly responsible for the development of the players' athletic abilities.

It's not to shit on Tuberville's legacy, but you have to be honest in assessing the good and bad of that legacy.

I did say it.  Sorry I didn't spell it out specifically. 

Yes, Tuberville and his staff failed Kodi Burns.  I said how. 

[AUChizad]

Seriously?  Get the fuck over yourself.  
 
I've got an opinion.  I'm going to express it. So fucking sorry it doesn't mesh with yours.  

On another note?  Hyperbole doesn't become you.  You've become as mulishly pedantic as Chopper, unable to read anything I say without filtering it through your own personal bias and overreacting.  Because you enter every discussion with your preconceived bias, you've become unable to respond with rationality.  Congratulations.  

Pot. Meet Kettle.

Notice that neither me or Chopper are nearly as irritated at Wes.

That's because Wes isn't calling us ignorant in 15 different ways.

I could give a fuck what your opinion is. You obviously have serious problems with mine.

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

Partially, yeah.  

Caudle was a four-star coming out of high school.  He was one of our in-state coups.

Burns was a four-star coming out of high school.  We showed we were a national force by snatching him from Arkansas' back yard.  

Todd was a project that nobody but Troy really wanted and then only because of Franklin.  He wouldn't even BE at Auburn except for Franklin.  

You can point fingers at the previous administration, yeah, but both Caudle and Burns were highlights of their respective recruiting classes.  Most thought Burns was the next Mike Vick. The black Tim Tebow. The second coming of Dameyune Craig.  Caudle was the next Brandon Cox, the new Jeff Burger or maybe at least Ben Leard.  

Why they failed to meet that promise?  Not my place to say, but either their high school rankings were total bullshit or somebody at Auburn failed them along the way.  

I think it's safe to say Auburn failed Burns.  Shredded a needed redshirt year in a panic because Brandon was gimpy.  Fucked his confidence with the Franklin/Todd saga and then ass raped him with the changes last year.  I can understand how he is where he is.  

...and none of this means SHIT as to Auburn's current situation at QB. It is what it is, but the current staff didn't cause any of it.  Todd, Burns and Caudle were there when they all arrived on scene, and regardless of the cirmcumstances behind Todd's arrival, after a fair competition, he won the job.  

Get the fuck over it.

[wesfau2]

I did say it.  Sorry I didn't spell it out specifically. 

Yes, Tuberville and his staff failed Kodi Burns.  I said how. 

You mention the wasting of his frosh year, but you neglected the greater injustice.

They failed Caudle, too, under your analysis.

Neither player has apparently been coached since they hit campus.

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

I did say it.  Sorry I didn't spell it out specifically. 

Yes, Tuberville and his staff failed Kodi Burns.  I said how. 

No you didn't.  Whatever though.

[wesfau2]

I wish there were some incredible stories, but there just wasn't. We went with a bunch of couples.

Went and saw Blue Man Group and Penn & Teller. Lost a lot of money at the casinos.

My lady friend is a down-assed bitch that was trying as hard as me to convince the other girls to go to a sleezy strip club. They weren't having it. We were inches away from going by ourselves, but finally just gave in to lose our money at the casino with the rest of them instead of into a g-string.

I gotta tell ya: I'm underwhelmed.  You're young, relatively single, and you go see BMG and Penn & Teller in Vegas?  No titty bars?

Chad, it's time we had "the talk".

[Kaos]

You mention the wasting of his frosh year, but you neglected the greater injustice.

They failed Caudle, too, under your analysis.

Neither player has apparently been coached since they hit campus.

Maybe.  I never really thought Caudle would be anything but a serviceable backup.  Burns was supposed to be the guy.  There was failure there. 

Last year was a debacle, too.  Burns was clearly failed last year.  Thought that went without saying. 

[AUChizad]

I gotta tell ya: I'm underwhelmed.  You're young, relatively single, and you go see BMG and Penn & Teller in Vegas?  No titty bars?

Chad, it's time we had "the talk".

Talk to wreckingball. Or more specifically his girlfriend and her friends.

[wesfau2]

Maybe.  I never really thought Caudle would be anything but a serviceable backup.  Burns was supposed to be the guy.  There was failure there. 

Last year was a debacle, too.  Burns was clearly failed last year.  Thought that went without saying. 

I'm going to bust your balls a little longer on this point, because you're mealy-mouthing it.

Your prior post said:

Caudle was a four-star coming out of high school.  He was one of our in-state coups.

Burns was a four-star coming out of high school.  We showed we were a national force by snatching him from Arkansas' back yard. 


You can point fingers at the previous administration, yeah, but both Caudle and Burns were highlights of their respective recruiting classes. 

Why they failed to meet that promise?  Not my place to say, but either their high school rankings were total bullshit or somebody at Auburn failed them along the way. 

So, you admit that the kids were highly ranked and big recruiting coups.  Then you pissy-dance around the fact that Tuberville, et al, did diddly squat with them once they made it to campus.

Not "Auburn", not "somebody at Auburn", but Tommy T. and the gang.  I love the guy as much as anyone, but the final few years of his tenure were for crap.

[wesfau2]

Talk to wreckingball. Or more specifically his girlfriend and her friends.

You've got to know when to cut the dead-weight out of your crew and strike off on your own.

Taylor did fill us in, however, on your need to schedule your vacation. 

[Kaos]

Pot. Meet Kettle.

Notice that neither me or Chopper are nearly as irritated at Wes.

That's because Wes isn't calling us ignorant in 15 different ways.

I could give a fuck what your opinion is. You obviously have serious problems with mine.

A. You're aligning yourself with Chopper.  That speaks volumes.  

B. Don't GIVE a fuck at whom you're irritated.  

C. If you think you're being called ignorant, then your own insecurities are showing.  I'm just saying what I think.  

D. I have no problem with you or your opinion, only your bleeding ass 'half empty glass' bullshit that's applied to any opinion I express.

E. I do have a problem with Chopper and don't expect that to change because he has never understood that you can disagree with someone's opinion without making it a personal issue. You say "what a stupid thing to say" and Chopper (insecurity roaring) reads "You are a dumbass."   It's sad to see you slipping into that level of retardation.  

[AUChizad]

So, how does this reflect poorly on Chizik, because we all know everything does (to you).

The point is, Malzahn and Chizik know that it is in their best interest to have the best guy on the field. They think it's Todd. Despite your holy knowledge you've obtained from years of pee-wee football coaching, I'm trusting their analysis before yours. Forgive me while I fuck this unicorn.

Flowery adjectives aside, what exactly, are you bitching about?

You think that if Burns or Caudle had improved from dismal, it would be a sign of progress, but if Todd (who was the better of the 2 starters last year, and who has been the standout by all accounts during practices) does the same, we're "butt-fucked". Why the distinction. Todd had an actual physical hindrance last year that he has overcome, unlike the others.

Burns is ok with this. Why can't you be?

Here's some unicorns and rainbows for you, as I haven't given you a reason before now to use that analogy.

How about for once, you believe in Auburn and love it.

[wesfau2]

How about for once, you believe in Auburn and love it.

CREED PHACE!!!!

Edit note:  On the 4th of July, I saw a guido with a tattoo across his back.  Four-inch, gothic lettering: CREED.

[AUChizad]

Taylor did fill us in, however, on your need to schedule your vacation. 

I don't know what this means.

[wesfau2]

I don't know what this means.

He said that you're anal about your vacation itinerary. 

[Kaos]

I'm going to bust your balls a little longer on this point, because you're mealy-mouthing it.

Your prior post said:

So, you admit that the kids were highly ranked and big recruiting coups.  Then you pissy-dance around the fact that Tuberville, et al, did diddly squat with them once they made it to campus.

Not "Auburn", not "somebody at Auburn", but Tommy T. and the gang.  I love the guy as much as anyone, but the final few years of his tenure were for crap.

DAMN.  

Tommy Tuberville and staff failed to develop Kodi Burns.  Whether that was possible or not is not something I can address.  Maybe he was not all that on a ritz cracker like they thought.  But the fact remains that he was not developed and the moves that were made over the course of his first two years could have been potentially disastrous to his ability to progress.

Caudle's situation was different.  Maybe they failed him. Maybe they didn't.  No way to know.

I said that.  Again.  I can have it notarized if you'd like.  

[AuburnChopper 3.0]

A. You're aligning yourself with Chopper.  That speaks volumes.

This DOES speak volumes.  All he has is a different opinion than you.  Just like I do, so therefore we're "aligned"?  You're fucking falling apart in front of everyone. 

B. Don't GIVE a fuck at whom you're irritated.

Nobody doubts this.  

C. If you think you're being called ignorant, then your own insecurities are showing.  I'm just saying what I think.

You completely whiff on the what he was saying...as usual, because it doesn't fit your thinking.  

D. I have no problem with you or your opinion, only your bleeding ass 'half empty glass' bullshit that's applied to any opinion I express.

So, this is better than your "unicorn" and "chizdick sucking Loon" comments?  Please nigga'!

E. I do have a problem with Chopper and don't expect that to change because he has never understood that you can disagree with someone's opinion without making it a personal issue. You say "what a stupid thing to say" and Chopper (insecurity roaring) reads "You are a dumbass."   It's sad to see you slipping into that level of retardation.  

What can I say, I was memorized by Billy Mays selling your shit.  It was late and I had a few bucks to burn.  

[wesfau2]

DAMN.  

Tommy Tuberville and staff failed to develop Kodi Burns.  Whether that was possible or not is not something I can address.  Maybe he was not all that on a ritz cracker like they thought.  But the fact remains that he was not developed and the moves that were made over the course of his first two years could have been potentially disastrous to his ability to progress.

Caudle's situation was different.  Maybe they failed him. Maybe they didn't.  No way to know.

I said that.  Again.  I can have it notarized if you'd like.  

You're still hedging...

You either need to say "Recruiting rankings are for shit and these kids never had the talent" or "Tuberville and company fucked up."

How are the two situations different?  You've lumped them together as high-profile recruiting coups.

[AUChizad]

I don't know what this means.

Fuck you (Taylor).

That again, would fall to wreckingball's girlfriend. I may pile up on ideas of possible things to do, but I've never been a stickler about sticking to them.

[wesfau2]

Fuck you (Taylor).

That again, would fall to wreckingball's girlfriend. I may pile up on ideas of possible things to do, but I've never been a stickler about sticking to them.

If it makes you feel better: he crapped out...again...