Can I depend on you guys?

Birmingham · « **on:** June 03, 2009, 09:21:21 AM »

Can I depend on you guys to not give me a hard time when the NCAA ruling is handed down? I'll be in a vulnerable state and would appreciate it if you guys would maybe just not discuss it much.

War Eagle!!! · « **Reply #1 on:** June 03, 2009, 09:38:56 AM »

I could give 2 fucks less what happens to Alabama. I will just think it's fucking hilarious that the savior was only scoring recruits by cheating his ass off....

IF it is proved to be that way...

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #2 on:** June 03, 2009, 09:40:29 AM »

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.

Saniflush · « **Reply #3 on:** June 03, 2009, 09:40:46 AM »

Quote from: Birmingham on June 03, 2009, 09:21:21 AM

Can I depend on you guys to not give me a hard time when the NCAA ruling is handed down? I'll be in a vulnerable state and would appreciate it if you guys would maybe just not discuss it much.

You and a couple of others around here will only get the usual ribbing as far as I'm concerned but there are some others that will have to crawl back under their rock to hide.

Birmingham · « **Reply #4 on:** June 03, 2009, 09:46:33 AM »

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I could give 2 fucks less what happens to Alabama. I will just think it's fucking hilarious that the savior was only scoring recruits by cheating his ass off....

IF it is proved to be that way...

Obviously I was kidding when I started this thread but just to be on the same page, you do realize that there aren't any recruiting violations involved with the textbook case, right?

War Eagle!!! · « **Reply #5 on:** June 03, 2009, 09:49:28 AM »

Quote from: Birmingham on June 03, 2009, 09:46:33 AM

Obviously I was kidding when I started this thread but just to be on the same page, you do realize that there aren't any recruiting violations involved with the textbook case, right?

Well if that is all that comes down...I really couldn't care less...

Saniflush · « **Reply #6 on:** June 03, 2009, 09:53:42 AM »

Quote from: Birmingham on June 03, 2009, 09:46:33 AM

Obviously I was kidding when I started this thread but just to be on the same page, you do realize that there aren't any recruiting violations involved with the textbook case, right?

I don't know what there is or isn't. This was more of a general statement.

Birmingham · « **Reply #7 on:** June 03, 2009, 09:56:11 AM »

Sani, I was talking about WarEagle!!!'s comment. I appreciate your kindness though, I'll go fist myself now.

Birmingham · « **Reply #8 on:** June 03, 2009, 09:59:12 AM »

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I could give 2 fucks less what happens to Alabama. I will just think it's fucking hilarious that the savior was only scoring recruits by cheating his ass off....

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Obviously I was kidding when I started this thread but just to be on the same page, you do realize that there aren't any recruiting violations involved with the textbook case, right?

Quote from: War Eagle!!! on June 03, 2009, 09:49:28 AM
Well if that is all that comes down...I really couldn't care less...

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #9 on:** June 03, 2009, 10:03:02 AM »

Quote from: Birmingham on June 03, 2009, 09:46:33 AM

Obviously I was kidding when I started this thread but just to be on the same page, you do realize that there aren't any recruiting violations involved with the textbook case, right?

Unless you consider Failure to Monitor a violation.

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #10 on:** June 03, 2009, 10:06:16 AM »

Quote from: Birmingham on June 03, 2009, 09:46:33 AM

Obviously I was kidding when I started this thread but just to be on the same page, you do realize that there aren't any recruiting violations involved with the textbook case, right?

You don't know that.

The NCAA was pretty harsh in their PLOI. They very well could have discovered people associated with Alabama mentioning the textbook scam to recruits as a means of swaying them to sign with UA.

I've got no evidence to back that up, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

Birmingham · « **Reply #11 on:** June 03, 2009, 10:22:35 AM »

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Quote from: Birmingham on Today at 07:46:33 AM
Obviously I was kidding when I started this thread but just to be on the same page, you do realize that there aren't any recruiting violations involved with the textbook case, right?

Unless you consider Failure to Monitor a violation.

Birmingham · « **Reply #12 on:** June 03, 2009, 10:25:12 AM »

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You don't know that.

The NCAA was pretty harsh in their PLOI. They very well could have discovered people associated with Alabama mentioning the textbook scam to recruits as a means of swaying them to sign with UA.

I've got no evidence to back that up, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

Soooo.... they would tell potential student athletes that if they'd come to Alabama they would get free textbooks??? How would that be any different than any other school?

AWK · « **Reply #13 on:** June 03, 2009, 10:33:06 AM »

Quote from: Birmingham on June 03, 2009, 10:25:12 AM

Soooo.... they would tell potential student athletes that if they'd come to Alabama they would get free textbooks??? How would that be any different than any other school?

Key word is scam, reading comprehension.

Saniflush · « **Reply #14 on:** June 03, 2009, 10:35:00 AM »

Quote from: Birmingham on June 03, 2009, 10:25:12 AM

Soooo.... they would tell potential student athletes that if they'd come to Alabama they would get free textbooks that they do not need and could then sale back for the benjamins??? How would that be any different than any other school?

is how I read it.

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #15 on:** June 03, 2009, 10:37:16 AM »

Quote from: Birmingham on June 03, 2009, 10:25:12 AM

Soooo.... they would tell potential student athletes that if they'd come to Alabama they would get free textbooks??? How would that be any different than any other school?

Come to bama, so you can make a little extra cash selling your books as well as all your friend's books back. Then, come the stripper parties and the blow. Well...as soon as we find another distributor. You interested?

RWS · « **Reply #16 on:** June 03, 2009, 10:41:37 AM »

Quote from: Buzz Killington on June 03, 2009, 10:37:16 AM

Come to bama, so you can make a little extra cash selling your books as well as all your friend's books back. Then, come the stripper parties and the blow. Well...as soon as we find another distributor. You interested?

How could they possibly sell them back to the school to make a profit? They were "checked out" under the student athlete's account. A book checked out under the student athlete's account has to come back to the store just the same, otherwise the athlete will get charged for it. Its the same concept as a library. If I were a student athlete and got a book I shouldn't have with my account, and then I gave it to a friend, and that friend didn't return it, I would be charged. If I return the book as I should, then I won't get charged and I don't get any money back, because I never paid money for it in the first place. Or, am I totally incorrect about how student athletes books are checked out? I don't see how any book given to a student athlete could possibly be returned for cash because it was free to them in the first place, correct? The whole time he was at a particular school, he would be labeled a student athlete, correct?

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #17 on:** June 03, 2009, 10:53:13 AM »

Quote from: runswithscissors on June 03, 2009, 10:41:37 AM

How could they possibly sell them back to the school to make a profit? They were "checked out" under the student athlete's account. A book checked out under the student athlete's account has to come back to the store just the same, otherwise the athlete will get charged for it. Its the same concept as a library. If I were a student athlete and got a book I shouldn't have with my account, and then I gave it to a friend, and that friend didn't return it, I would be charged. If I return the book as I should, then I won't get charged and I don't get any money back, because I never paid money for it in the first place. Or, am I totally incorrect about how student athletes books are checked out? I don't see how any book given to a student athlete could possibly be returned for cash because it was free to them in the first place, correct? The whole time he was at a particular school, he would be labeled a student athlete, correct?

Geez...your sacrasm meter is obviously broken. Thanks for the diatribe though.

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #18 on:** June 03, 2009, 10:55:03 AM »

Quote from: runswithscissors on June 03, 2009, 10:41:37 AM

How could they possibly sell them back to the school to make a profit? They were "checked out" under the student athlete's account. A book checked out under the student athlete's account has to come back to the store just the same, otherwise the athlete will get charged for it. Its the same concept as a library. If I were a student athlete and got a book I shouldn't have with my account, and then I gave it to a friend, and that friend didn't return it, I would be charged. If I return the book as I should, then I won't get charged and I don't get any money back, because I never paid money for it in the first place. Or, am I totally incorrect about how student athletes books are checked out? I don't see how any book given to a student athlete could possibly be returned for cash because it was free to them in the first place, correct? The whole time he was at a particular school, he would be labeled a student athlete, correct?

It is the same concept as the library...or at least it's supposed to be. I thought the allegations were that student athletes were getting their free books and instead of returning them, they were SELLING them to other people therefore turning a profit. Am I wrong on that?

Saniflush · « **Reply #19 on:** June 03, 2009, 10:56:47 AM »

Quote from: townhallsavoy on June 03, 2009, 10:55:03 AM

It is the same concept as the library...or at least it's supposed to be. I thought the allegations were that student athletes were getting their free books and instead of returning them, they were SELLING them to other people therefore turning a profit. Am I wrong on that?

I thought they were trading them straight up for cars in Gadsden.