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Greaseyweasel · « **Reply #20 on:** June 01, 2009, 02:40:15 PM »

The eminent power ass whippings that Malzahonie is planning to give to his oponents is why everyone is lining up to hire co-offensive coordinators from mid majors.
Yes sir he is the shit.

The Prowler · « **Reply #21 on:** June 01, 2009, 02:56:14 PM »

Quote from: greaseybammer on June 01, 2009, 02:40:15 PM

The eminent power ass whippings that Malzahonie is planning to give to his oponents is why everyone is lining up to hire co-offensive coordinators from mid majors.
Yes sir he is the shit.

Keep up the good work, bammer

Kaos · « **Reply #22 on:** June 01, 2009, 03:19:14 PM »

Quote from: townhallsavoy on June 01, 2009, 11:33:13 AM

You have to realize that he didn't even run his offense at Auburn last year.

Maybe my opinion is skewed due to the fact that I attended his clinic the January after the Clemson game. He detailed with video references how his offense works against any defense even if the defense has better athletes than his offense.

I mean, honestly, did Auburn's offense last year resemble anything Troy did while he was there? Now as for Tony Franklin's ability to coordinate his offense, that's where he failed. He allowed the BBQ gang to do whatever the fuck they wanted until it was too late.

I don't buy that at all. Not the least little bit of it. I can make up a powerpoint presentation that will convince you penguins can maul the shit out of polar bears. Let's see what happens when we put them in the ring.

When you threw out the term "bbq gang" you lost it.

Franklin failed NOT because he didn't get support but because he was an unorganized bullshit artist.

Townhallsavoy · « **Reply #23 on:** June 01, 2009, 04:36:40 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on June 01, 2009, 03:19:14 PM

I don't buy that at all. Not the least little bit of it. I can make up a powerpoint presentation that will convince you penguins can maul the shit out of polar bears. Let's see what happens when we put them in the ring.

When you threw out the term "bbq gang" you lost it.

Franklin failed NOT because he didn't get support but because he was an unorganized bullshit artist.

If I took the time to write out all of the names involved in the "bbq gang," would it have made my post more credible?

If Franklin was the sole problem, how did he have success at Troy?

Kaos · « **Reply #24 on:** June 01, 2009, 04:53:48 PM »

Quote from: townhallsavoy on June 01, 2009, 04:36:40 PM

If I took the time to write out all of the names involved in the "bbq gang," would it have made my post more credible?

If Franklin was the sole problem, how did he have success at Troy?

You can't win the "Chizik will do great at Auburn because he has better players" argument unless you also trash the "Franklin did great at Troy, imagine what he can do at Auburn with better players" argument. Can't have both sides.

Why does the Wing-T work at Maplesville High School? Why does the Notre Dame box work at Central?

Franklin was the sole problem.

Greaseyweasel · « **Reply #25 on:** June 02, 2009, 06:36:41 AM »

No, Franklin was just the preview of the shit yet to come.

AUChizad · « **Reply #26 on:** June 02, 2009, 01:29:31 PM »

Quote from: Greaseyweasel on June 02, 2009, 06:36:41 AM

No, Franklin was just the preview of the shit yet to come.

What's the weather like on that island you inhabit?

Greaseyweasel · « **Reply #27 on:** June 02, 2009, 07:36:27 PM »

Here on the plains the forecast is for a shit storm to hit in about 90 days. After it leaves and a strong coaching front moves in then things will clear up and get considerably better.

JR4AU · « **Reply #28 on:** June 03, 2009, 01:15:26 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on June 01, 2009, 04:53:48 PM

You can't win the "Chizik will do great at Auburn because he has better players" argument unless you also trash the "Franklin did great at Troy, imagine what he can do at Auburn with better players" argument. Can't have both sides.

Why does the Wing-T work at Maplesville High School? Why does the Notre Dame box work at Central?

Franklin was the sole problem.

No, no he wasn't, and I honestly don't think you truly believe that. We've been round and round on this, and I won't do it again, but Franklin was only part of a much bigger problem. There's nothing wrong with the scheme when it's coached.

War Eagle!!! · « **Reply #29 on:** June 03, 2009, 03:01:25 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on June 03, 2009, 01:15:26 PM

No, no he wasn't, and I honestly don't think you truly believe that. We've been round and round on this, and I won't do it again, but Franklin was only part of a much bigger problem. There's nothing wrong with the scheme when it's coached.

I believe he was a big problem. I gave him every opprtunity last year but his play calling was the SUCK! It was horrible. It was worse than horrible. I saw...no shit...2 running plays all year. A sweep to the outside, and a counter to the outside. You can't win big time football games like that. I don't know if his offense was installed or not, but I do know that he was the one calling plays...and that was absolutely HORRIBLE!!!

Kaos · « **Reply #30 on:** June 03, 2009, 03:33:16 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on June 03, 2009, 01:15:26 PM

No, no he wasn't, and I honestly don't think you truly believe that. We've been round and round on this, and I won't do it again, but Franklin was only part of a much bigger problem. There's nothing wrong with the scheme when it's coached.

There's nothing wrong with the WingT or the Notre Dame Box or the Run-n'-Shoot, either.

Yeah. I believe Franklin was the entire problem. He exposed some weaknesses in the coaching staff through his own towering incompetence -- which went FAR, FAR, FAR beyond his "scheme" -- but there wasn't anything that couldn't have been corrected or adjusted on Tuberville's staff to resolve the situation.

CCTAU · « **Reply #31 on:** June 03, 2009, 03:42:26 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on June 03, 2009, 03:33:16 PM

There's nothing wrong with the WingT or the Notre Dame Box or the Run-n'-Shoot, either.

Yeah. I believe Franklin was the entire problem. He exposed some weaknesses in the coaching staff through his own towering incompetence -- which went FAR, FAR, FAR beyond his "scheme" -- but there wasn't anything that couldn't have been corrected or adjusted on Tuberville's staff to resolve the situation.

And in the end ALL of Tuberville's staff got the adjustment they had worked hard for.

We have a new staff now and I just want to see good, hard-nosed football return to the plains.

Kaos · « **Reply #32 on:** June 03, 2009, 03:44:24 PM »

Quote from: CCTAU on June 03, 2009, 03:42:26 PM

And in the end ALL of Tuberville's staff got the adjustment they had worked hard for.

We have a new staff now and I just want to see good, hard-nosed football return to the plains.

Maybe one day we will.

Godfather · « **Reply #33 on:** June 03, 2009, 03:44:59 PM »

While I don't believe that Franklin was the entire problem he was still 90% to blame. I believe even if he had been able to bring in an assistant the same result would have happened. The problem with Franklin was his inabilty to adapt and his complaining about not having the proper players. A good coach adapts (see Urban Meyer when he first got to UF) he changes schemes and makes adjustments to his offense to win with the players he has. He then recruits for the system so that he can install said offense. Franklin was too regimented he had to prove it was his way or the highway, he failed. Where I think the other 10% lies is with Tubs and staff, because they never bought into the system, and for a team to work everyone has to have buy in.

JR4AU · « **Reply #34 on:** June 03, 2009, 04:08:21 PM »

Quote from: Godfather on June 03, 2009, 03:44:59 PM

While I don't believe that Franklin was the entire problem he was still 90% to blame. I believe even if he had been able to bring in an assistant the same result would have happened. The problem with Franklin was his inabilty to adapt and his complaining about not having the proper players. A good coach adapts (see Urban Meyer when he first got to UF) he changes schemes and makes adjustments to his offense to win with the players he has. He then recruits for the system so that he can install said offense. Franklin was too regimented he had to prove it was his way or the highway, he failed. Where I think the other 10% lies is with Tubs and staff, because they never bought into the system, and for a team to work everyone has to have buy in.

Let's see...the head guy hires you with no intention of letting you run your offense...your offensive staff knows this and works against you or fails to work for you...and you're 90% to blame. That makes a shitload of sense.

Godfather · « **Reply #35 on:** June 03, 2009, 04:20:51 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on June 03, 2009, 04:08:21 PM

Let's see...the head guy hires you with no intention of letting you run your offense...your offensive staff knows this and works against you or fails to work for you...and you're 90% to blame. That makes a shitload of sense.

I forgot you were on the team and knew the inner workings...my bad.

JR4AU · « **Reply #36 on:** June 03, 2009, 04:25:43 PM »

Quote from: Godfather on June 03, 2009, 03:44:59 PM

While I don't believe that Franklin was the entire problem he was still 90% to blame. I believe even if he had been able to bring in an assistant the same result would have happened. The problem with Franklin was his inabilty to adapt and his complaining about not having the proper players. A good coach adapts (see Urban Meyer when he first got to UF) he changes schemes and makes adjustments to his offense to win with the players he has. He then recruits for the system so that he can install said offense. Franklin was too regimented he had to prove it was his way or the highway, he failed. Where I think the other 10% lies is with Tubs and staff, because they never bought into the system, and for a team to work everyone has to have buy in.

^^^^^^^^^^you write all that, then respond to me with this?

Quote from: Godfather on June 03, 2009, 03:44:59 PM

I forgot you were on the team and knew the inner workings...my bad.

Were YOU on the team?

wesfau2 · « **Reply #37 on:** June 03, 2009, 04:29:45 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on June 03, 2009, 04:25:43 PM

^^^^^^^^^^you write all that, then respond to me with this?

Were YOU on the team?

pwnt.

Godfather · « **Reply #38 on:** June 03, 2009, 04:38:57 PM »

Quote from: wesfau2 on June 03, 2009, 04:29:45 PM

pwnt.

Actually not, I believe I wrote "I believe" which makes it my opinion.

Quote from: JR4AU on June 03, 2009, 04:08:21 PM

Let's see...the head guy hires you with no intention of letting you run your offense...Yea Tubs hired him to not let him run the offense that makes a whole lot of sense. your offensive staff knows this and works against you or fails to work for you...Did I not write that the I believed the other coaches were at fault? I wrote that they didn't have buy in, but again isn't that Franklins responsibility, does he not have to prove to them that he is capable? and you're 90% to blame. That makes a shitload of sense.

My opinion your opinion in the end what fuckin difference does it make, everyone that was involved no longer coaches at Auburn.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #39 on:** June 03, 2009, 04:42:11 PM »

Okay, I now have a some super insider information that didn't come from a message board or Paul Finebaum. As I'm sure many of you know, I am one of the more connected individuals on this board. I actually had lunch with Joe Whitt about a year and a half ago. Therefore, anyone who questions my exalted insiderness will be publically flogged at Toomers Corner...while Curtis Luper calls out your name with a bullhorn.

Seriously, this isn't info as much as an observation. I ran into one of Auburn's O-linemen from the past year. He was a walk on from this area and I was trying to pick his brain about the program. Strangely, 90% of what he said came straight off Finebaum and message boards. But I digress. His comment was innocent enough but hit home. He said, "Tommy Tuberville was like a father to me. I love him to death but it was time for him to move on." Basically indicated he was burnt out and shouldn't have been coaching last year.