Wow, when you have to go all the way back to 1892 to try and prove a point about your coach.....thats sad. I was trying to use a little more current data, but whatever. Also, when you said "lifetime sub .500", I assumed you meant no coach ever got over a .500 record because saying the program itself is sub .500 since its inception is kind of a weird argument to use, since there are obviously other coaches that have coached there and had success.
NO! I FUCKING MEANT WHAT I WROTE YOU STUPID RETARD. I didn't go back that far to prove my point, I went back that far to prove you're a lying fuck bammer. You lied, as bammers usually do to suit their purposes, and thus you were forced to resort to acting like a fucking dumbass piece of shit, and calling me "sad" for correcting your fucking
lie and you're now trying to say you didn't understand what I said? Fuck off you stupid piece of shit.
Now I await your spin on "coached there and had success"? Name one recently where you don't have to cherry pick a season or 2 to try to prop him up.
You wan't more current? Their beloved Dan McCarney, the coach Chizik replaced, was 56-85 from 1995-2006. His "great run" that made him so loved came from 2000-2005 where he went 9-3, 7-5, 7-7, 2-10, 7-5, 7-5. Or 39-35 over that period. Bracketed by 4-7 and 4-8 seasons. And, his first three seasons? 3-8, 2-9, 1-10. Since 1921 they've had 19 head coaches, including Rhodes. Only one, Earl Bruce, ended his ISU career with a better than .500 mark at 36-32 from '73 to '78. Johnny Majors went 24-30-1 at ISU from '68-'72 (his first 2 seasons were 3-7, 3-7), and this is the same coach that went undefeated at Pittsburgh and won a NC in 1976, and won 3 SEC titles in the 80s and 90s at UT. So don't be a run of the mill stupid fuck, or in other words a typical bammer, and act like a coache's ISU record in just 2 seasons means much more than jack shit!
Other "more recent" coaches first few seasons at ISU:
Jim Walden: 3-8, 5-6 (first two seasons '87-88) (career at ISU 28-57-3)
Jim Criner: 17-25-2 (4 seasons total ISU career '83-'86)
Donnie Duncan: 18-24-2 (4 seasons total ISU careeer '79-'82)
To head off your next stupid fuck post that you'll have to resort to because you've been caught being a dumb fuck bammer...NO! I'M NOT CLAIMING CHIZIK IS A GREAT COACH, OR EVEN SAYING HIS RECORD AT ISU IS MEANINGLESS...I'M MERELY PUTTING IT IN PERSPECTIVE AND NOT BEING A DUMB FUCK AND CHANTING 5-19, 5-19 AS IF IT COMPLETELY DEFINES HIS ABILITIES. YOU'RE A BAMMER, AND PROBABLY CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT. YOUR MIND IS SIMPLISTIC, AND YOU SEE ONLY WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE. BUT HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE...COACHES DON'T WIN AT ISU, ESPECIALLY NOT EARLY. SOME PEOPLE WANT TO CLAIM CHIZIK TOOK OVER ISU IN GOOD SHAPE BECAUSE OF THAT
"GLORIOUS RUN" OF 4 WINNING SEASONS OUT OF 7 BETWEEN 2000 AND 2006 MCCARNEY HAD...THEY DON'T FIRE COACHES FOR WINNING AND BEING IN GOOD SHAPE. MCCARNEY HAD GONE 2-10, 7-5, 7-5, 4-8 HIS LAST 4 YEARS...RECRUITING RANKINGS HAD BEEN IN THE 40s PRIOR TO THAT, AND FELL THOSE LAST 4 SEASONS FROM THE 40s TO THE 60s.
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