NCAA Investigates.. Is it over...

Kaos · « **on:** March 05, 2009, 01:08:43 PM »

http://blog.al.com/bamabeat/2009/03/ncaa_continues_to_investigate.html

TUSCALOOSA -- The University of Alabama could face additional penalties from the NCAA in regards to the textbook investigation that sidelined five UA football players for four games during the 2007 season.

Representatives from the university met Feb. 20 with the NCAA Committee on Infractions to answer a notice of allegiations regarding potential "major" violations. The NCAA has yet to respond with any additional punishment that could be weighed against UA in the matter.

The NCAA sent UA a notice of inquiry in Nov. 2007. A notice of possible "major" violations was issued in May 2008, per documents associated with the case.

The school's self-initiated investigation involved sports programs in addition to football, sources have said. UA sports programs, including football, face a potential loss of scholarships if the NCAA decides the school's initial actions and were not sufficient.

A statement from UA this morning stated that, "The University's appearance before the committee is part of the NCAA's normal investigative and review process."

"Compliance with NCAA and SEC rules is of the utmost importance to The University of Alabama and our Athletics Department, and I am pleased with the way our compliance officers handled this situation," UA president Robert Witt said in a statement today. "UA works diligently to ensure that integrity and a commitment to excellence are the hallmarks of our athletics program, and we appreciate the support we received from Commissioner (Mike) Slive and the SEC, and officials at the NCAA."

The investigation began, per UA documents, when a UA Supply Store employee noticed questionable textbook charges in excess of $1,600 for scholarship student-athletes and reported the matter. UA's compliance staff later confirmed that student-athletes had "impermissible textbook charges in excess of $1,300 and $1,500 for the fall 2007 semester."

Football players Antoine Caldwell, Glen Coffee, Marlon Davis, Marquis Johnson and Chris Rogers were suspended four games during the 2007 season.

The players were later reinstated by the NCAA for the regular season finale against Auburn and the Independence Bowl against Colorado.

"Our compliance department and the administration, when that happened and we discovered that, I've never seen a response to a problem that aggressive in resolving it," UA athletics director Mal Moore said this past summer. "We kept the NCAA abreast of everything that has been done."

"The University discovered the violations, investigated them promptly and in detail, and immediately took corrective action to fix its textbook distribution system," UA's statement said.

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #1 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:22:39 PM »

Just in case, I'm getting back in the good graces of the football karma gods.

Kaos · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:24:02 PM »

Quote from: Buzz Killington on March 05, 2009, 01:22:39 PM

Just in case, I'm getting back in the good graces of the football karma gods.

I did a funny little dance when I saw this pop up...

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:26:25 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on March 05, 2009, 01:24:02 PM

I did a funny little dance when I saw this pop up...

I just still don't believe that anything major is coming around the bend. I hope that I am just too damn cynical though.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:31:05 PM »

"Major" racism and possible "Major" NCAA infractions going on at the Crapstoned?

And the lead story on Finebaum this afternoon will be....."How does Nick Saban use telepathic mind waves to force his shit to be solid and not stink".

AuburnChopper 3.0 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2009, 03:41:54 PM »

Cecil Hurt was on F'baum and while this may not result in much, it sure sounded ominous. F'baum is going off on the University of Alabama's media relations for covering this up. In my opinion, it's going to be interesting to see what comes out of this, but it sounds like Bammer covered this up for as long as they could and stonewalled the media to ensure this info wasn't out during the last recruiting cycle. Hmmm.....

We'll see what happens I guess...

AuburnChopper 3.0 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 05, 2009, 03:54:51 PM »

Cecil's article?

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20090305/NEWS/903051990/1007?Title=UA-meets-with-NCAA-infractions-committee-over-textbook-matter

The PLOI:
http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/assets/pdf/TL1527835.PDF

Repeat offender bylaw in effect???

Pg 4: "Inasmuch as your institution was previously found in violation of NCAA rules in an infractions report decided Feb 1, 2002, your institution is subject to the penalties set forth in Bylaw 19.5.2.3"

What's RWS's take I wonder being that we're all just a bunch of retarded Aubs pulling this out of our collective asses...

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #7 on:** March 05, 2009, 03:58:40 PM »

People, people, people...pleeease. NostraDavid told us about this years ago. Why so surprised?

Kaos · « **Reply #8 on:** March 05, 2009, 04:51:22 PM »

Quote from: AuburnChopper2.0 on March 05, 2009, 03:41:54 PM

Cecil Hurt was on F'baum and while this may not result in much, it sure sounded ominous. F'baum is going off on the University of Alabama's media relations for covering this up. In my opinion, it's going to be interesting to see what comes out of this, but it sounds like Bammer covered this up for as long as they could and stonewalled the media to ensure this info wasn't out during the last recruiting cycle. Hmmm.....

We'll see what happens I guess...

Not flaming, just a question. Why do you listen to that tool?

AuburnChopper 3.0 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 05, 2009, 04:57:00 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on March 05, 2009, 04:51:22 PM

Not flaming, just a question. Why do you listen to that tool?

I don't usually, but he is interviewing the people that broke the story. For that, it's worth it today.

Kaos · « **Reply #10 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:01:00 PM »

Quote from: AuburnChopper2.0 on March 05, 2009, 04:57:00 PM

I don't usually, but he is interviewing the people that broke the story. For that, it's worth it today.

Same here. Never listen, but turned it on today to see who he'd talk to.

He is, of course, crediting Cecil Hurt as "breaking" the story but nothing could be further from the truth. Hurt is one of them and will bury things that could potentially be harmful. This was going to get out some other way and Hurt and UA scrambled to cover.

AuburnChopper 3.0 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:04:40 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on March 05, 2009, 05:01:00 PM

Same here. Never listen, but turned it on today to see who he'd talk to.

He is, of course, crediting Cecil Hurt as "breaking" the story but nothing could be further from the truth. Hurt is one of them and will bury things that could potentially be harmful. This was going to get out some other way and Hurt and UA scrambled to cover.

Agreed. I'm surprised that nobody (okay not surprised actually) has mentioned that they are being investigated as a repeat offender and that one of the NCAA's requests is Bama's contractual television and other broadcast obligations. In my opinion, it's probably nothing, but very curious to say the least.

Kaos · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:12:46 PM »

Quote from: AuburnChopper2.0 on March 05, 2009, 05:04:40 PM

Agreed. I'm surprised that nobody (okay not surprised actually) has mentioned that they are being investigated as a repeat offender and that one of the NCAA's requests is Bama's contractual television and other broadcast obligations. In my opinion, it's probably nothing, but very curious to say the least.

I was a little surprised that there was very little comment in this thread after I posted it.

I guess people are just leery of getting their hopes up.

The Prowler · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:15:49 PM »

So....rws, you can stop waiting on the PLOI. Wait, let me rephrase that, you could've stopped waiting on it back in May of '08. I'd be surprised if anything more than just a loss of a couple of scholarships comes of this. But, if the NCAA sees it as Repeat Offender, Failure to Moniter, and if they find out that it has happened more than just this one time....then it might be more. I do know this, we'll know more about it within the next few weeks.

AuburnChopper 3.0 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:20:46 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on March 05, 2009, 05:12:46 PM

I was a little surprised that there was very little comment in this thread after I posted it.

I guess people are just leery of getting their hopes up.

Not a lot of info out there yet. Bammerham radio is amazingly passive of all this. I'm not sure anyone really knows the scope. However, I read the PLOI, see the repeat offender status on proven "major" violations and wonder about the sum of the two...

Repeat Offender:

19.5.2.3 Repeat Violators.
19.5.2.3.1 Time Period. An institution shall be considered a “repeat” violator if the Committee on
Infractions finds that a major violation has occurred within five years of the starting date of a major penalty.
For this provision to apply, at least one major violation must have occurred within five years after the starting
date of the penalties in the previous case. It shall not be necessary that the Committee on Infractions’ hear-
ing be conducted or its report issued within the five-year period. (Revised: 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97)
19.5.2.3.2 Repeat—Violator Penalties. In addition to the penalties identified for a major violation,
the minimum penalty for a repeat violator, subject to exceptions authorized by the Committee on Infrac-
tions on the basis of specifically stated reasons, may include any or all of the following: (Revised:1/11/94)
(a) The prohibition of some or all outside competition in the sport involved in the latest major violation
for one or two sports seasons and the prohibition of all coaching staff members in that sport from
involvement directly or indirectly in any coaching activities at the institution during that period;
(b) The elimination of all initial grants-in-aid and all recruiting activities in the sport involved in the
latest major violation in question for a two-year period;
(c) The requirement that all institutional staff members serving on the Board of Directors, Manage-
ment Council, Executive Committee or other committees of the Association resign those positions,
it being understood that all institutional representatives shall be ineligible to serve on any NCAA
committee for a period of four years; and
(d) The requirement that the institution relinquish its voting privilege in the Association for a four-year
period.

You can't tell me that someone somewhere right now wearing Crimson is having an asshole tightening issue after reading this.

Kaos · « **Reply #15 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:27:28 PM »

Quote from: AuburnChopper2.0 on March 05, 2009, 05:20:46 PM

Not a lot of info out there yet. Bammerham radio is amazingly passive of all this. I'm not sure anyone really knows the scope. However, I read the PLOI, see the repeat offender status on proven "major" violations and wonder about the sum of the two...

Repeat Offender:

19.5.2.3 Repeat Violators.
19.5.2.3.1 Time Period. An institution shall be considered a “repeat” violator if the Committee on
Infractions finds that a major violation has occurred within five years of the starting date of a major penalty.
For this provision to apply, at least one major violation must have occurred within five years after the starting
date of the penalties in the previous case. It shall not be necessary that the Committee on Infractions’ hear-
ing be conducted or its report issued within the five-year period. (Revised: 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97)
19.5.2.3.2 Repeat—Violator Penalties. In addition to the penalties identified for a major violation,
the minimum penalty for a repeat violator, subject to exceptions authorized by the Committee on Infrac-
tions on the basis of specifically stated reasons, may include any or all of the following: (Revised:1/11/94)
(a) The prohibition of some or all outside competition in the sport involved in the latest major violation
for one or two sports seasons and the prohibition of all coaching staff members in that sport from
involvement directly or indirectly in any coaching activities at the institution during that period;
(b) The elimination of all initial grants-in-aid and all recruiting activities in the sport involved in the
latest major violation in question for a two-year period;
(c) The requirement that all institutional staff members serving on the Board of Directors, Manage-
ment Council, Executive Committee or other committees of the Association resign those positions,
it being understood that all institutional representatives shall be ineligible to serve on any NCAA
committee for a period of four years; and
(d) The requirement that the institution relinquish its voting privilege in the Association for a four-year
period.

You can't tell me that someone somewhere right now wearing Crimson is having an asshole tightening issue after reading this.

I can't tell you anyone wearing Crimson can read it.

And... after listening to Finebaum for a while for one of the few times in a year or more... I STILL FUCKING HATE SHANE.

FUCK THAT DOUCHEBAG. I HATE THE COMPLETE AND ABSOLUTE FUCKING HELL OUT OF THAT FUCKING BASTARD.

AuburnChopper 3.0 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:31:14 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on March 05, 2009, 05:27:28 PM

I can't tell you anyone wearing Crimson can read it.

And... after listening to Finebaum for a while for one of the few times in a year or more... I STILL FUCKING HATE SHANE.

FUCK THAT DOUCHEBAG. I HATE THE COMPLETE AND ABSOLUTE FUCKING HELL OUT OF THAT FUCKING BASTARD.

Shane is blind homer piece of shit. Everyone knows that... What annoys me, is from a "journalistic" standpoint (and I use that term REALLY loosely), is the dopey chuckling from Paul about "Aubs" regardless of where the conversation should be steered.

This is about where it's time to turn it off.

Kaos · « **Reply #17 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:43:06 PM »

Quote from: AuburnChopper2.0 on March 05, 2009, 05:31:14 PM

Shane is blind homer piece of shit. Everyone knows that... What annoys me, is from a "journalistic" standpoint (and I use that term REALLY loosely), is the dopey chuckling from Paul about "Aubs" regardless of where the conversation should be steered.

This is about where it's time to turn it off.

**click**

Thrilla · « **Reply #18 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:49:45 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on March 05, 2009, 05:12:46 PM

I was a little surprised that there was very little comment in this thread after I posted it.

I guess people are just leery of getting their hopes up.

Bingo. Not until the gavel comes crashing down will I rejoice.

AUChizad · « **Reply #19 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:54:15 PM »

Quote from: Thrilla on March 05, 2009, 05:49:45 PM

Bingo. Not until the gavel comes crashing down will I rejoice.

Seconded. Things that awesome don't happen to me.