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The Noose and NASCAR
« on: June 23, 2020, 09:16:34 AM »
A noose was found hanging in the garage area of Bubba Wallace - NASCAR's only Black driver who rides the 43 for Richard Petty Racing.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but something about this just doesn't add up for me. Do you know how tightly guarded NASCAR garages are? You'd have an easier time getting on a plane wearing a tunic with a ticking sound emanating from it than to get within 100 feet of a garage without credentials.

That leaves me with two options: 1) it's an inside job, someone who has those credentials did this; 2) it's a hoax meant to drive a hot-button narrative.

I almost hate myself for thinking the latter but these days, it's very plausible.
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Re: The Noose and NASCAR
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2020, 09:40:00 AM »
A noose was found hanging in the garage area of Bubba Wallace - NASCAR's only Black driver who rides the 43 for Richard Petty Racing.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but something about this just doesn't add up for me. Do you know how tightly guarded NASCAR garages are? You'd have an easier time getting on a plane wearing a tunic with a ticking sound emanating from it than to get within 100 feet of a garage without credentials.

That leaves me with two options: 1) it's an inside job, someone who has those credentials did this; 2) it's a hoax meant to drive a hot-button narrative.

I almost hate myself for thinking the latter but these days, it's very plausible.
I'm 100% certain they have cameras on those cars and garage areas 24/7.  If this happened, they know who did it.

Now, let's assume for a second that some racist, redneck yahoo actually did something this stupid.  What people fail to realize is that despite all the peaceful protests, despite all the burning and looting, despite tearing down all the monuments, despite changing the names on every building, product etc, despite taking over city blocks, despite beating and murdering innocent people......you haven't changed anyone inside.

There's always going to be hate on both sides.  There's always going to be racism in some form or fashion.  There's always going to be a Billy Bob thinking it's funny to use a noose to try and make a point with blacks.  There's always going to be the black lady I saw the other day screaming, "White people owned slaves.  Fuck em'"

And with some of the rhetoric I've been hearing the last few days, I truly believe that the only thing happening right now is battle lines are being drawn. 
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Re: The Noose and NASCAR
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2020, 09:59:47 AM »
A noose was found hanging in the garage area of Bubba Wallace - NASCAR's only Black driver who rides the 43 for Richard Petty Racing.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but something about this just doesn't add up for me. Do you know how tightly guarded NASCAR garages are? You'd have an easier time getting on a plane wearing a tunic with a ticking sound emanating from it than to get within 100 feet of a garage without credentials.

That leaves me with two options: 1) it's an inside job, someone who has those credentials did this; 2) it's a hoax meant to drive a hot-button narrative.

I almost hate myself for thinking the latter but these days, it's very plausible.
Welcome to the tin foil club.  Meetings are Tuesday nights at the Sonic.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2020, 10:46:37 AM »
I'm 100% certain they have cameras on those cars and garage areas 24/7.  If this happened, they know who did it.

Now, let's assume for a second that some racist, redneck yahoo actually did something this stupid.  What people fail to realize is that despite all the peaceful protests, despite all the burning and looting, despite tearing down all the monuments, despite changing the names on every building, product etc, despite taking over city blocks, despite beating and murdering innocent people......you haven't changed anyone inside.

There's always going to be hate on both sides.  There's always going to be racism in some form or fashion.  There's always going to be a Billy Bob thinking it's funny to use a noose to try and make a point with blacks.  There's always going to be the black lady I saw the other day screaming, "White people owned slaves.  Fuck em'"

And with some of the rhetoric I've been hearing the last few days, I truly believe that the only thing happening right now is battle lines are being drawn.
Yep. I will always hate several mother fuckers around here. In addition to Dallas.
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2020, 11:09:36 AM »
I knew this was fake the moment it made the news.  (I'm on record, BTW).   How did I know?  Easy. 

1) Despite the stupidity of people like Justy Smollettttt and others, white folks as a rule just don't go around hanging nooses.  I've known some of the dumbest, most redneck, belligerent, unapologetic people you could ever imagine (some of them in the boardrooms of large companies and state-level offices).  None.  Not a single one. Not one of them has ever considered a noose as a method of threatening anyone.  A noose is what some assclown THINKS a white person would do when they do it themselves.  The noose narrative was false from the jump.   

2) The level of surveillance involved means that had anyone actually done this, nascar officials would have known within a matter of minutes who did it.  

It never happened.  This is a manufactured photo op for nascar to prove that they are "woke" and sympathetic to the times.  It was created to give them justifiable cover in the face of expected outrage over the banning of confederate flags.  

This will be exposed as a fake.  I've already seen the photographic evidence proving that the so-called "noose" didn't exist.  It's a fraud -- just as I knew it was. 

Here's the problem, though.   The media won't cover it, Wallace will face no punishment.  nascar will continue to celebrate its "wokeness." Everyone will know, but the thought process that will be drummed into everyone's head by the complicit media is "well, one of them racist white folks COULDA done it.  Be just like them."  

You won't see LeDumb James -- an assclown who barely graduated high school, but has the audacity to lecture anyone on a history he never bothered to study -- or Mee Maw Ivey or any of the other knee-jerk twits who fed the hysteria with their faux outrage (looking at you, Stephen A. Smith)... you won't see them apologize for painting with a broad, tar-coated brush.  

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Re: The Noose and NASCAR
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2020, 11:10:50 AM »
 I truly believe that the only thing happening right now is battle lines are being drawn.
Who gets to fight wes?  
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2020, 11:53:42 AM »
Who gets to fight wes? 
I just assumed it would be Vlad
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Re: The Noose and NASCAR
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2020, 11:59:00 AM »
No one did "it".  There isn't an "it" 
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2020, 12:01:42 PM »
And as K noted, there are photographs out there now that have leaked......photos of the same garage stall last fall and yesterday morning. There was a rope alright....one with a loop on the end attached to the garage door. Just like on every stall. But the one on Stall #4 had been cut by the time the photo was taken and the FBI had arrived. 
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2020, 12:06:17 PM »
And as K noted, there are photographs out there now that have leaked......photos of the same garage stall last fall and yesterday morning. There was a rope alright....one with a loop on the end attached to the garage door. Just like on every stall. But the one on Stall #4 had been cut by the time the photo was taken and the FBI had arrived.
Well then, I think we finally have definitive proof.  Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2020, 12:24:12 PM »
Well then, I think we finally have definitive proof.  Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
^^^This^^^
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2020, 01:25:59 PM »
I just assumed it would be Vlad
I’m will fuck a man.
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2020, 01:27:08 PM »
MODs. Please add “up” to end of vlad above post. TIA
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Re: The Noose and NASCAR
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2020, 01:38:22 PM »
This thread right here
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1275303280890052609?s=20

TL;DR - NASCAR used a social movement for economic and political gain. Not the first to do it, but a really shoddy way to operate. Guess that's where we are now. Gus is marching on Toomer's, Oklahoma State's RB is the "captain now" apparently, and so on.
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Re: The Noose and NASCAR
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2020, 05:55:25 PM »
Something how they knew last year this would be a hot button issue...
https://abc3340.com/sports/more-sports/fbi-noose-found-at-talladega-was-there-as-early-as-oct-2019?fbclid=IwAR3B5YZSxZ9wBnaTpRyXnY-EtUi09yLx2iS-G1w9POEt8IHtpOLrToWhwoo
When can we expect an apology from this dipshit?




Or this moron asshole?




At the very least he should be suspended and his advertisers should bail. 



BTW?  The new talking point?   

Doesn't matter who did it or why, or even if it was already there.  It sparked a much needed conversation about the hatred that permeates sport.  

Translation:  Even if a thing is fake, we can be mad about it.  
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Re: The Noose and NASCAR
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2020, 06:21:00 PM »
There’s moving the goal posts and there’s this where the goal posts aren’t even there and the game isn’t even real. 

GGP was right...everything IS A WORK!
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Re: The Noose and NASCAR
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2020, 07:08:51 PM »
Still calling it a noose. It isn’t. Never was. Just like there never was an “it”. Over. Disgraceful. 
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2020, 08:51:24 PM »
Still calling it a noose. It isn’t. Never was. Just like there never was an “it”. Over. Disgraceful.
You should accept the fact just because this noose was already there, that doesn’t make it any less intimidating. Just because this one wasn’t on purpose, doesn’t mean white people all over this country aren’t sitting around knitting nooses right this very minute.  Dumbo Wallace is a courageous and admirable hero for calling out this pervasive racism.  He should be lauded.  Celebrated even, for his strength in the face of a garage door pull.  Just because it didn’t happen (and never does) doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter. Doesn’t mean you can’t be outraged. Doesn’t mean you can’t be traumatized.  Oh. The humanity.


In other news?  Jussie Wallace... I mean Bubba Smollett...   I mean ..... errr..... The Cardiff Racer.... whatever..... his mother has shifted the conversation.  "Other racers called him n***er!!"   Forget the garage door pull, the real horror here is a WORD that nobody ever heard anyone use.  
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Re: The Noose and NASCAR
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2020, 10:24:53 PM »
I have been hung all of my life.
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