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The Malzahn Resume

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The Malzahn Resume
« on: December 03, 2019, 04:09:50 PM »
A quick rundown of CGM's record at Auburn.  I apparently have too much time on my hands, but pardon me if I missed a game or two.

Overall Record at Auburn:  62-30

Bowl Record:  2-4

Non-Power 5 Opponents:  22-1 (UCF)

Power 5 OOC Opponents:  5-5

LSU:  2-5

FUGA:  2-6

Bama:  3-4

Obviously, a combined 7-15 against those 3.  Conversely, he's made hay against:

Arkansas:  6-1

Ole Miss:  6-1

Texas A&M:  6-1

He has 1 SEC Title in 2013 and played for the MNC that year as well.

He has 1 SEC West Title in 2017.

ACC:  0-3

PAC 12:  3-0

Big 10:  1-1

Big 12:  0-1

The elephant in the room (pun/no pun intended) is our record vs. LSU, FUGA & Bama.  Too many of those games that just plain got away from us.  The losses against Bama were pretty much legit because lets face it, they were just better than us by a long shot.  Way too many of those against LSU and FUGA that should have been W's.

The only one that kind of surprises me is how we've handled Texas A&M.  The one loss to them is also one that got away.  Could very easily be 7-0.


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Re: The Malzahn Resume
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2019, 04:33:02 PM »
My opinion: he's overpaid, but a solid coach (in most respects).

He's frustratingly stubborn and a bit too loyal/paranoid with his staff.

I have no appetite for a coaching search.  Lots of programs shopping this year.
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Re: The Malzahn Resume
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2019, 04:42:05 PM »
My opinion: he's overpaid, but a solid coach (in most respects).

He's frustratingly stubborn and a bit too loyal/paranoid with his staff.

I have no appetite for a coaching search.  Lots of programs shopping this year.
^^What he said

Honestly the biggest beefs I have had against Gustav are:
1.  The way he loses to LSU most years (build a lead and run into the 0 gap the rest of the game)
2.  The way the team has looked against FUGA (save the 2017 regular season tilt)
c.  The bowl record...or more accurately the way the team plays in "meaningful" bowls (see FUGA)

Otherwise, he is pretty solid overall.  If he would pull an Orgeron and hire a passing game coordinator that knows a little bit about the forward pass, he could go from the 7-9 win coarch to the 10-11 win coarch we are pining to see.
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Re: The Malzahn Resume
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2019, 04:45:22 PM »
My opinion: he's overpaid, but a solid coach (in most respects).

He's frustratingly stubborn and a bit too loyal/paranoid with his staff.

I have no appetite for a coaching search.  Lots of programs shopping this year.
Speaking of....I believe we should be hearing who FSU is hiring here in the next 24-48.  At least that's the word on teh skreets.  That's a weird one to me.  Why fire somebody mid-season if you don't have a deal in place for the next guy?  If they don't have someone right now, they're just back in the boat with a bunch of other Power 5's looking for a corch.
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2019, 04:47:14 PM »
Gus is 5-2 vs aTm, with losses in 2014 and 2016.
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2019, 04:47:17 PM »
Speaking of....I believe we should be hearing who FSU is hiring here in the next 24-48.  At least that's the word on teh skreets.  That's a weird one to me.  Why fire somebody mid-season if you don't have a deal in place for the next guy?  If they don't have someone right now, they're just back in the boat with a bunch of other Power 5's looking for a corch.
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2019, 05:01:30 PM »
My opinion: he's overpaid, but a solid coach (in most respects).

He's frustratingly stubborn and a bit too loyal/paranoid with his staff.

I have no appetite for a coaching search.  Lots of programs shopping this year.
This...

But I'll change too: "I have no appetite for a coaching search." We have no leadership at the top that makes me think they would choose someone better.
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2019, 05:04:22 PM »
c.  The bowl record...or more accurately the way the team plays in "meaningful" bowls (see FUGA)

I gotta say I could give two shits about our bowl record.  They mean zilch unless you are playing in the final 4.  Don't get me wrong, I'd like to win, but who the fuck cares anymore.

Honestly, I hope Big Bad Brown and Mac Daddy Davidson choose not to play in the game.
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2019, 05:11:01 PM »
Bad snap against A@M-shit happens.

Totally unprepared against UCF- I can even get over that as we just lost our will after losing to UGA...AGAIN due to being totally unprepared AGAIN!
Place the debacle against Tennessee here. They need bracketing.

The losses to Arky and Ole Miss?
Okay they were likely at their highest point in decades.
No excuse to lose to Mullen. Outcoached!

I'm going to stop here.
We dominate everyone in the SEC West with the exception of Alabama and LSU.
LSU owns us, even moreso now that Ed is in charge.

Our no answer high school offense murders our chances to advance beyond third place in the SEC West.
We have great talent. Every fucking talking head, former and current coaches all agree.


It's our paranoid, narcissistic head coach. He has to micro-manage every detail so he can prove his self worth over a plate of hash browns.

That offensive line play is attrocious.
Not Auburn football. Weak but fixable with someone that has a demeanor similar to Rodney Garner.

Wide receiver group is the most talented we've ever had overall as a group...and a pathetic waste. No more direction here than a 2A high school veer offense that throws the ball a half dozen times a game.

He will not change.
It has to be mostly, but not all about GUS.
And how Kevin Steele can sit idly by without privately confronting Gus and calling it what it is is beyond me.
Money and our good thing be damned.

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Re: The Malzahn Resume
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2019, 05:11:12 PM »
I gotta say I could give two shoots about our bowl record.  They mean zilch unless you are playing in the final 4.  Don't get me wrong, I'd like to win, but who the fudge cares anymore.

Honestly, I hope Big Bad Brown and Mac Daddy Davidson choose not to play in the game.
That's why it was a little c...but that either helps or hurts his team's perception and psyche going into the next season imho.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2019, 05:11:25 PM »
Gus is 5-2 vs aTm, with losses in 2014 and 2016.
Derp!  Missed that.
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2019, 05:17:40 PM »
I gotta say I could give two shits about our bowl record.  They mean zilch unless you are playing in the final 4.  Don't get me wrong, I'd like to win, but who the fuck cares anymore.

Honestly, I hope Big Bad Brown and Mac Daddy Davidson choose not to play in the game.
You are correct, sir.  Yes, I want to win every time we step foot on the field, but the Bowl games are nothing but meaningless exhibitions.  Just entertainment.  And higher profile players are doing the smart thing more and more by choosing not to risk their future.

My only request is that if you choose to play, give it your best effort.  Remember how Jeff Holland used to fly off the edge every play and give the QB something to at least think about?  In the UCF game, I'm not sure he ever rushed the passer.  He was like, "Yeah, I'm gonna' take a few steps over here and maybe set the edge.  Now, don't hit me so hard."
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2019, 05:17:57 PM »
Derp!  Missed that.
Oh this changes everything.
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2019, 05:56:06 PM »
Lane Kiffin
Sarkisian has to want to leave Saban.
Washington might not want him from that drunken USC booster incident but the guy can coach.
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2019, 12:21:02 AM »
My opinion: he's overpaid, but a solid coach (in most respects).

He's frustratingly stubborn and a bit too loyal/paranoid with his staff.

I have no appetite for a coaching search.  Lots of programs shopping this year.

can't disagree with any of it but the last...it seems to be the excuse each year.  i'm guilty too.  
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2019, 10:19:17 AM »
can't disagree with any of it but the last...it seems to be the excuse each year.  i'm guilty too. 
It's a fact.  Last year was a decent year for coach shopping, but 17 and 19 were/are a seller's/Sexton market.
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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2019, 10:22:09 AM »
So, if I am distilling this all, we should accept our place in the pecking order of things and be thankful for what we have in CGM because he keeps us out of trouble, the players love him, and he really sticks it in the Saban/Bama craw more often than others? He owns the twin Mississippi embarrassments and Arkansas, and aTm. Are we to just accept we are in line behind Bama, fUGA, LSU, and UF?
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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2019, 10:35:41 AM »
So, if I am distilling this all, we should accept our place in the pecking order of things and be thankful for what we have in CGM because he keeps us out of trouble, the players love him, and he really sticks it in the Saban/Bama craw more often than others? He owns the twin Mississippi embarrassments and Arkansas, and aTm. Are we to just accept we are in line behind Bama, fUGA, LSU, and UF?
Not my point...my point is based on the current state of affairs at Auburn in the leadership roles of President, BoT and AD.  YES


and we aren't behind bama we are in front of them.  
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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2019, 10:40:38 AM »
Not my point...my point is based on the current state of affairs at Auburn in the leadership roles of President, BoT and AD.  YES


and we aren't behind bama we are in front of them. 
I agree on the leadership end of things. Not sure that will ever change. Last I heard, Gogue may be up for a second term. 
We are in front of Bama this year. We weren't last year. Overall, are we in front of them, really? Got to be honest about that. 
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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2019, 10:53:29 AM »
I agree on the leadership end of things. Not sure that will ever change. Last I heard, Gogue may be up for a second term.
We are in front of Bama this year. We weren't last year. Overall, are we in front of them, really? Got to be honest about that.
Not many are in front of them...we have been more than most.

Again I am taking multiple things into account.  Unless Bob Stoops is coming (hint: he isn't) give me another name that makes you say hell yeah (that would actually make the lateral move).  There are guys out there that "I think" would be better.  Guys like PJ Fleck, Mike Norvell but we don't really know.  So we fire a guy that went 9-3 to take a flier on someone else for a shit ton of money? 

I think our expectations as fans have gotten out of whack (and yes I am also referring to myself) Call it the Saban factor call it the four team playoff. (Which I think has ruined college football).

I don't think Gus is the long term answer at Auburn, but for right now, at least another year, I agree with keeping him. We as fans though have got to get off the guys ass if he loses one game (myself included).  and No beating bammer doesn't make my season, but beating our biggest rival and being 9-3 is certainly more palatable than being 8-4.

tl;dr  we will have Gus next year and after the first loss I will be on here screaming to fire him.
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