Racism

[Snaggletiger]

What's wrong with her knees?

[WiregrassTiger]

She got tits on her knees.

[chinook]

She got tits on her knees.

And you got a vagina on your head, so...

[WiregrassTiger]

And you got a vagina on your head, so...

Yes. But a vagina on the head is better than a penis in the mouth, no?

Neither of us would know for sure though. I haven’t had one and you haven’t had the other.

Oh my. That guy had a stroke? Doesn’t seem like he’s lost a step, Marv.

WT with the ko. Errybody who been bitch slapped by a disabled, raise yo hand.

That means Nookie. #micdrop

[GH2001]

Yes. But a vagina on the head is better than a penis in the mouth, no?

Neither of us would know for sure though. I haven’t had one and you haven’t had the other.

Oh my. That guy had a stroke? Doesn’t seem like he’s lost a step, Marv.

WT with the ko. Errybody who been bitch slapped by a disabled, raise yo hand.

That means Nookie. #micdrop

Bump

Do better.

[Buzz Killington]

You can't say disabled in here.  The correct term is handicapable.

[WiregrassTiger]

You can't say disabled in here.  The correct term is handicapable.

Chizzy said you can say nagger if you are a nagger.

So, I can say disabled.

He said I’m binary, so I’ll defer to him. He should know, being bi.

[Buzz Killington]

Chizzy said you can say nagger if you are a nagger.

So, I can say disabled.

He said I’m binary, so I’ll defer to him. He should know, being bi.

You do you, handiman.

[The Six]

So, Minneapolis is on fire now. Honestly, I get it. African American guy doesn't even resist arrest and a cop kills him while others watch it happen. There's no place for that bullshoot anywhere. Naturally, this has renewed the spark of "how right Colin Kaepernick was to take a knee" arguments.

What disturbs me is the narrative that "if you have a problem with Colin's knee but not with the cop's knee, you are the problem" memes and such. Who on earth is defending what Officer richardhead did? And why can't I have a problem with both?

[Buzz Killington]

So, Minneapolis is on fire now. Honestly, I get it. African American guy doesn't even resist arrest and a cop kills him while others watch it happen. There's no place for that bullshoot anywhere. Naturally, this has renewed the spark of "how right Colin Kaepernick was to take a knee" arguments.

What disturbs me is the narrative that "if you have a problem with Colin's knee but not with the cop's knee, you are the problem" memes and such. Who on earth is defending what Officer richardhead did? And why can't I have a problem with both?

This^^^Right up here.
I have a serious problem with both. 

[Kaos]

My problems.

1) Did the cop "kill him?"  I don't know the answer to that.  Did the guy have a heart attack while he was restrained?  Suffocation -- which would have been the result of what we saw -- was not the cause of death.  Would he have had the same heart attack had they tased him, had they just held him down, had they simply pinned him against the car?  I get that it's a terrible, terrible look.  I didn't think that it was necessary to keep him pinned as long as they did.  But we didn't see the scuffle that preceded it.  He appeared to be trying to get away, which I know from watching Live PD necessitates a forceful response. We don't know what the guy we couldn't see was doing (searching him for needles, etc.?) or how long that was taking.

2) Why does anyone "get" or understand that this event should trigger riots, looting, violence.  Exactly zero percent of that response is productive.  Please explain to me how breaking a window, stealing a television and then setting the store on fire leads to the proper level of justice being applied to this situation?  Please explain how flipping over random cars and leaping around like uncaged animals promotes understanding? The vast majority of people out starting stuff (and why in the crotch-rotten hell are they rioting in LA?) don't care one whit for the guy and are doing what they're doing for purely selfish reasons. You simply cannot "get", condone, understand or approve of that sort of response. It must be condemned.

3) Colin Funklestick "took a knee" FOUR years ago.  It has since been statistically proven that there is no discernable pattern of white police officers killing or injuring black suspects. If you want the studies, go look them up yourself.  What he 'protested' was a fallacy to begin with and one isolated incident four years after the fact does not change that, nor does it validate his fraudulent position. 

4) LeBron James is an undeducated fool.  Why anyone would listen to him on political or social matters is beyond me.  The black kid from Star Wars is a moronic flaming racist (so, too, is the editorial staff at al.com!).  Ice Cube wants a race war.  He should be careful what he asks for.  I'm not sure how that would work now anyway since every single couple in every single television commercial is either gay or mixed or mixed gay. 

5) The one cop should have let up on the guy probably.  His actions are his and his alone, though. None of the other cops should be held liable for that. 


Now, does anyone want to discuss the "black jogger?" 

[The Six]

I don't "get" the violent response. What I "get" is people being mad about it. The response is just as ludicrous as the cops response. The full video is out, he wasn't running, wasn't trying reach for a gun, and certainly wasn't doing what that idiot Mike Brown did. The cop went way too far. People burning down AutoZone went way too far. Colin Kaepernick is a race-baiting piece of shit. All three of those are defensible positions.

As for the "jogger" incident, even that dude thinks people have over reacted to the "Karen" that dropped a dime on him.

[Kaos]

I don't "get" the violent response. What I "get" is people being mad about it. The response is just as ludicrous as the cops response. The full video is out, he wasn't running, wasn't trying reach for a gun, and certainly wasn't doing what that idiot Mike Brown did. The cop went way too far. People burning down AutoZone went way too far. Colin Kaepernick is a race-baiting piece of shit. All three of those are defensible positions.

As for the "jogger" incident, even that dude thinks people have over reacted to the "Karen" that dropped a dime on him.

Wrong jogger

[The Six]

Wrong jogger

Oh, you mean the guy the two idiots in Georgia ran down and shot?

[Kaos]

Oh, you mean the guy the two idiots in Georgia ran down and shot?

Is that what happened? 

[Snaggletiger]

A few things here.  Take that cop, cuff him, stuff him and prosecute his sorry ass to the full extent of the law.  We'll find out in due time what the actual cause of death was; however, if you put your knee on the neck of somebody for that long, who is already cuffed behind his back, not struggling and telling you time and again that he can't breathe, then you absolutely deserve to be prosecuted.  And as far as I'm concerned, the other cops who were there and could have simply said, "Let him up", or intervened in some way, should face some consequences as well. No excuse for that shit.

Now, as has been said, the reaction to this is utterly ridiculous, and predictable.  It's become the norm.  If you don't agree with something, let's steal and burn other people's shit.  People who had nothing to do with the reason for your "cause".  I vividly recall a scene from the Ferguson riots where a reporter was standing outside a store that was being looted.  The people running by him were jumping and hollering and laughing.  The reporter said, "These people don't seem upset to me.  This is a carnival-like atmosphere down here."  And in the last couple of nights in Minneapolis, the rioting has already resulted in at least one death and 5 other shootings.  At the end of the day, you've accomplished nothing other than destroying innocent people's lives.

BTW, You tried to burn Los Angeles down after Rodney King almost 30 years ago.  How's that strategy working out for you?

I believe it was Wes that said a while back that there is definitely a disconnect between the cops and black communities.  (Apologies if that wasn't you)  I have no doubt that's true and that there is a huge level of distrust among black communities.  Is it founded?  I have no idea.  Only being black from the waist down doesn't really qualify me to speak to that.  But I'm 100% certain that cops around this country are not systematically killing blacks.

The problem is, if a cop does in fact target a black man because that cop truly is racist, there's not a damn thing you can do about it.  You can't change what's in his heart any more than you can indict all cops around the country for his actions.  Did this cop wake up that morning and say I'ma fuck up a n***** today? Who knows?  But no amount of protesting, or burning, rioting and looting is going to change the heart of someone who is racist. Cops are no different than any of us.  The sad thing is that racism always has, and most likely always will exist in all walks of life to some extent, regardless of profession, circumstances or skin color.  There's no magic wand somebody can wave and make it go away.

This will happen again. It may or may not be the result of racism, but it will be framed as such.  And we'll wash, rinse and repeat.      

[Kaos]

A few things here.  Take that cop, cuff him, stuff him and prosecute his sorry ass to the full extent of the law.  We'll find out in due time what the actual cause of death was; however, if you put your knee on the neck of somebody for that long, who is already cuffed behind his back, not struggling and telling you time and again that he can't breathe, then you absolutely deserve to be prosecuted.  And as far as I'm concerned, the other cops who were there and could have simply said, "Let him up", or intervened in some way, should face some consequences as well. No excuse for that shit.

Now, as has been said, the reaction to this is utterly ridiculous, and predictable.  It's become the norm.  If you don't agree with something, let's steal and burn other people's shit.  People who had nothing to do with the reason for your "cause".  I vividly recall a scene from the Ferguson riots where a reporter was standing outside a store that was being looted.  The people running by him were jumping and hollering and laughing.  The reporter said, "These people don't seem upset to me.  This is a carnival-like atmosphere down here."  And in the last couple of nights in Minneapolis, the rioting has already resulted in at least one death and 5 other shootings.  At the end of the day, you've accomplished nothing other than destroying innocent people's lives.

BTW, You tried to burn Los Angeles down after Rodney King almost 30 years ago.  How's that strategy working out for you?

I believe it was Wes that said a while back that there is definitely a disconnect between the cops and black communities.  (Apologies if that wasn't you)  I have no doubt that's true and that there is a huge level of distrust among black communities.  Is it founded?  I have no idea.  Only being black from the waist down doesn't really qualify me to speak to that.  But I'm 100% certain that cops around this country are not systematically killing blacks.

The problem is, if a cop does in fact target a black man because that cop truly is racist, there's not a damn thing you can do about it.  You can't change what's in his heart any more than you can indict all cops around the country for his actions.  Did this cop wake up that morning and say I'ma fuck up a n***** today? Who knows?  But no amount of protesting, or burning, rioting and looting is going to change the heart of someone who is racist. Cops are no different than any of us.  The sad thing is that racism always has, and most likely always will exist in all walks of life to some extent, regardless of profession, circumstances or skin color.  There's no magic wand somebody can wave and make it go away.

This will happen again. It may or may not be the result of racism, but it will be framed as such.  And we'll wash, rinse and repeat.     

The disconnect isn't fact-based. 

The problem you have is that if you walk like a duck, wear duck feathers and a duck bill, quack like a duck and act like a duck you shouldn't be pissed off and act a damned fool when somebody assumes you're a duck until proven otherwise. 

Asking people to pretend they are blind is ridiculous.  If a LEO driving down the street encounters somebody wearing gang attire, walking like a gangster, talking like a gangster it is in his best interest, the best interest of any potential bystanders and the best interests of the community as a whole to assume that the person IS a gangster until proven otherwise. 

How many cops have been shot?  How many cops have been stabbed?  How many cops have been bitten, scratched, clawed, punched? 

We don't know why they stopped this guy.  We don't know what he told them.  We don't know what they were looking for. We don't know if they had warrants for him.  We couldn't see the struggle that led to him being taken to the ground very clearly.  While there are HD 1080p videos of every other second of the encounter that portion is somehow not available.  There was a struggle, however, because you can see both officers escorting him to the vehicle being yanked in different directions.  Had he just complied and gotten in the car like they asked, would people be getting free TVs from Target today?  

Was this excessive?  Yeah. It shouldn't have happened.  But it's not indicative of a systemic problem.  It is one isolated instance. No matter how racist a police officer might be, he doesn't set out every day to cap him a colored.  

No offense to Token, but the way we treat and pay police officers does lead to some pretty shitty individuals walking around with badges.  Over my life the two dumbest sets of people I've encountered are academics with PhDs and street cops.  The "detectives" in Tuscaloosa couldn't find an open bag of Doritos if it was attached to their face like a feed bag.  But we don't pay those people enough to truly attract the best and brightest. Our priorities are screwed up.  Teachers and cops should make ass tons more than Jim Carrey, LeBoob James and Alyssa Milano.  But they don't. 

[Snaggletiger]

Here's one of my biggest problems with where we are in society.  WT.

But aside from him, I just read a piece where the long time announcer for the Sacramento Kings got canned after being the guy on the mic since 1988.  Former Kings player, DeMarcus Cousins, twatted him asking what he thought about Black Lives Matter.  His response was to say it's good to hear from you and "All lives matter....Every single one."

That's what he was fired for.  Nothing more, nothing less.  He came back and apologized, saying that's what he was raised to believe and didn't realize that it was offensive to the BLM movement. The problem is there was not ill intent on his part.  In fact, it was just the opposite.  How dare he say that he thinks of everyone as equal.  And you lose your career for that?

[Kaos]

Here's one of my biggest problems with where we are in society.  WT.

But aside from him, I just read a piece where the long time announcer for the Sacramento Kings got canned after being the guy on the mic since 1988.  Former Kings player, DeMarcus Cousins, twatted him asking what he thought about Black Lives Matter.  His response was to say it's good to hear from you and "All lives matter....Every single one."

That's what he was fired for.  Nothing more, nothing less.  He came back and apologized, saying that's what he was raised to believe and didn't realize that it was offensive to the BLM movement. The problem is there was not ill intent on his part.  In fact, it was just the opposite.  How dare he say that he thinks of everyone as equal.  And you lose your career for that?

You ignorant racist.  Your life, your livelihood, your business, your work, your possessions don't matter.  

[CCTAU]

Have any of you visited the BLM website?

Go. And then tell me if you agree with their platform.