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2018-19 Coaching Carousel

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2018-19 Coaching Carousel
« on: November 26, 2018, 09:20:57 AM »
Mack Brown rumored to be the HC at UNC.

Will "retread" be the theme of this year's carousel?

https://twitter.com/SInow/status/1067059569527070726
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Re: 2018-19 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2018, 09:22:05 AM »
Wonder if he needs a OC with head coaching experience?
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Re: 2018-19 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2018, 09:26:40 AM »
Not a rumor any longer. The powers-that-be in Chapel Hill clearly had that wrapped up before they broke off Fedora.

https://twitter.com/InsideCarolina/status/1067055701149868032
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Re: 2018-19 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2018, 09:30:19 AM »
Other Openings (FBS):

Texas Tech
Western Kentucky
Maryland
Colorado
Louisville
Charlotte
Bowling Green
Central Michigan
Texas State
UMass
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Re: 2018-19 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2018, 09:46:59 AM »
Other Openings (FBS):

Texas Tech
Western Kentucky
Maryland
Colorado
Louisville
Charlotte
Bowling Green
Central Michigan
Texas State
UMass
Auburn OC
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Re: 2018-19 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2018, 09:57:19 AM »
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Texas Tech
Western Kentucky
Maryland
Colorado
Louisville
Charlotte
Bowling Green
Central Michigan
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UMass
Lots of places where Chip Lindsey could spread his wings...

As to the hire of Mack, does it portend an atmosphere where the PTB are going to be looking for stability and known quantities rather than trying to catch lighting in a bottle with an up-and-comer?
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2018, 10:01:02 AM »
Wonder if he needs a OC with head coaching experience?
So, you're saying bad experience is still experience?
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Re: 2018-19 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2018, 10:19:19 AM »
Lots of places where Chip Lindsey could spread his wings...

As to the hire of Mack, does it portend an atmosphere where the PTB are going to be looking for stability and known quantities rather than trying to catch lighting in a bottle with an up-and-comer?
If Lindsey gets some interviews, I'd love to be a fly on the wall and hear what he has to say.
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2018, 10:22:42 AM »
If Lindsey gets some interviews, I'd love to be a fly on the wall and hear what he has to say.
I expect you'd be disappointed.

When hiring, I generally pass on candidates that want to shit-talk their former employer.

These coaching interviews happen in a very small community and I doubt you hear anything scandalous.

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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2018, 10:31:02 AM »
So, you're saying bad experience is still experience?
It's not?
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Re: 2018-19 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2018, 10:47:42 AM »
I expect you'd be disappointed.

When hiring, I generally pass on candidates that want to shit-talk their former employer.

These coaching interviews happen in a very small community and I doubt you hear anything scandalous.
Not looking for scandalous or shit talk at all.  If he's asked what happened against LSU in 17' and if he thought it was sound offensive strategy to run the ball up the middle 16 straight times on first down, does he say he just had a brain fart that day?  He's been here two years and there have been numerous head scratching offensive game plans and decisions, like running already injured players into the ground.  I'm more curious about the control issues. 

The thing is, if he's being interviewed for an OC position, there's no doubt prospective employers will be pointing out specifics and asking him to explain himself.  If there truly were times where he had no say in anything, and I believe that to be the case, I don't expect him to needlessly fall on the grenade and protect Gus when he's trying to land his own gig.
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Re: 2018-19 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2018, 10:51:00 AM »
Mack Brown 5 years after retirement > Gus
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Re: 2018-19 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2018, 11:27:13 AM »
The only coach that should be on this list is not, so meh.
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Re: 2018-19 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2018, 01:00:24 PM »
Mack Watson Brown 3 years after retirement > Gus
Fixed it. 

Here's something to gnaw on. 

Doug Barfield got five years.  His record over those five was 29-25-1 with a 15-14-1 (.533 WP if you give him the tie, .500 WP without) record in the SEC. 

Now let's look at gloomy gus. If we accept that his first season was an anomaly (and it was) he's 40-25 over the last five years, 21-19 in the SEC (.525 WP).  Where do the 11 extra wins come from?  Expanded schedule with luminaries like Alabama State, Jax State, teams we can't remember.  

Barfield never got AU near the SEC title. Never beat Alabama. He did beat Georgia twice and tie them once in one of the gutsiest AU games I've ever seen.  Orange jerseys.  William Andrews inches short of a TD as the first half expired -- and if they'd had video replay back then AU wins that game over a Top 10 UGA squad.  We denied them the Sugar Bowl. 

Gus isn't as bad as Barfield, but the situations are similar.  Bama running roughshod over the competition and the rulebook.  Georgia a barking nuisance and some pretty good teams.  A wealth of talent.  Barfield's Auburn teams had William Andrews, James Brooks, Joe Cribbs, Frank Warren, Byron Franklin, Reese McCall, Sedrick McIntyre, Freddie Smith, Edmund Nelson, Chester Willis, Clifford Toney... 

You ask me to list Auburn's coaches in order of greatness? 

Donahue
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Jordan
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Re: 2018-19 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2018, 02:01:23 PM »
As much shit as we like to give Bowden (yes, myself included), his teams were competitive every year other than 1998.  I would take 1993-1997 Bowden a hundred times over Gus...that in itself makes me sad.
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Re: 2018-19 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2018, 03:38:30 PM »
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Western Kentucky hires Tennessee OC Tyson Helton as head coach
https://www.al.com/sports/2018/11/western-kentucky-hires-tennessee-oc-tyson-helton-as-head-coach-reports-say.html
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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2018, 03:53:15 PM »
The Barfield days were rough to be sure but I always thought we had a punchers chance in most cases unlike this past Saturday. 
Agree with Buzz on Bowden save for '98. 
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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2018, 09:10:29 AM »
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Texas State
UMass
Boston College OC Scot Loeffler named as Bowling Green's new head coach. Yes, THAT Scot Loeffler.
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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2018, 09:48:51 AM »
Boston College OC Scot Loeffler named as Bowling Green's new head coach. Yes, THAT Scot Loeffler.
That can't be!  BC had a good offense this season.  I was told that he sucked and the HC had to take over play calling to cover for he and Tom Brady.
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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2018, 10:29:43 AM »
That can't be!  BC had a good offense this season.  I was told that he sucked and the HC had to take over play calling to cover for he and Tom Brady.
Saw a tweet that said his 8-year average as OC has him hovering around 84th in terms of production.  BC was 66th in 2018.

Edit:  Here it is

https://twitter.com/JasonKirkSBN/status/1067787653381271552
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