Stand up

Kaos · « **on:** May 23, 2018, 02:16:09 PM »

NFL says: Stand for the anthem or stay inside.

Not exactly the resolution I hoped for, but it's a start.

#stillwinning

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #1 on:** May 23, 2018, 02:42:24 PM »

The Prowler · « **Reply #2 on:** May 23, 2018, 02:51:51 PM »

Good 'ol forced patriotism. 'MERICA

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #3 on:** May 23, 2018, 03:18:25 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on May 23, 2018, 02:51:51 PM

Good 'ol forced patriotism. 'MERICA

No, it's a business decision by the NFL because the players' (Employees') actions the past two years have cost the NFL mega-millions, attendance and overall fan interest. It's not the cause, it's the method of protest and when the employees chose to carry it out, which is at a time when fans want entertainment, not politics. Moreover, the method of protest they have chosen is highly offensive to millions. The fans don't care what your cause is. They only care that you've chosen to use their recreational/entertainment time to disrespect the flag and country.
Stand up at the podium and scream at the top of your lungs. Organize a march down Broadway. Burn a flag or two. Buy TV time to air out your grievances. Have at it. But do it on your own time and stop pissing off the life blood of your very profession.

AUJarhead · « **Reply #4 on:** May 23, 2018, 03:49:05 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on May 23, 2018, 02:51:51 PM

Good 'ol forced patriotism. 'MERICA

No one is forcing them to continue playing in the NFL.

Godfather · « **Reply #5 on:** May 23, 2018, 03:57:44 PM »

Quote from: AUJarhead on May 23, 2018, 03:49:05 PM

No one is forcing them to continue playing in the NFL.

No one is even forcing them to stand, they have a choice.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #6 on:** May 23, 2018, 04:42:24 PM »

Quote from: AUJarhead on May 23, 2018, 03:49:05 PM

No one is forcing them to continue playing in the NFL.

Oh Canada.

Kaos · « **Reply #7 on:** May 23, 2018, 05:11:27 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on May 23, 2018, 02:51:51 PM

Good 'ol forced patriotism. 'MERICA

Good ol expecting employees to behave with class and dignity.

CCTAU · « **Reply #8 on:** May 23, 2018, 05:58:16 PM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on May 23, 2018, 03:18:25 PM

No, it's a business decision by the NFL because the players' (Employees') actions the past two years have cost the NFL mega-millions, attendance and overall fan interest. It's not the cause, it's the method of protest and when the employees chose to carry it out, which is at a time when fans want entertainment, not politics. Moreover, the method of protest they have chosen is highly offensive to millions. The fans don't care what your cause is. They only care that you've chosen to use their recreational/entertainment time to disrespect the flag and country.
Stand up at the podium and scream at the top of your lungs. Organize a march down Broadway. Burn a flag or two. Buy TV time to air out your grievances. Have at it. But do it on your own time and stop pissing off the life blood of your very profession.

You lost him at "business"!

The Prowler · « **Reply #9 on:** May 23, 2018, 08:00:46 PM »

People still think it's about "disrespecting the flag"...smh, fucking morons.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #10 on:** May 23, 2018, 08:10:03 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on May 23, 2018, 08:00:46 PM

People still think it's about "disrespecting the flag"...smh, fucking morons.

How can you not be disrespecting the flag or our country when that's the method with which you protest? Doesn't matter, though. That's how it's perceived by millions and the NFL is losing millions because of it. They're telling their employees to cut that shit out.

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #11 on:** May 23, 2018, 08:16:18 PM »

Oh, and by the way, here is Colon Kraperdump's original statement on why he knelt.

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color".

Yeah, those fucking morons. How stupid of them to think that.

CCTAU · « **Reply #12 on:** May 23, 2018, 08:54:17 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on May 23, 2018, 08:00:46 PM

People still think it's about "disrespecting the flag"...smh, fucking morons.

â€œHands up. Donâ€™t shootâ€!
Whoâ€™s the moron?

Kaos · « **Reply #13 on:** May 23, 2018, 09:40:48 PM »

Quote from: CCTAU on May 23, 2018, 08:54:17 PM

â€œHands up. Donâ€™t shootâ€!
Whoâ€™s the moron?

I know!! I know!!

Itâ€™s prowler!!

The Prowler · « **Reply #14 on:** May 23, 2018, 10:24:32 PM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on May 23, 2018, 08:16:18 PM

Oh, and by the way, here is Colon Kraperdump's original statement on why he knelt.

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color".

Yeah, those fucking morons. How stupid of them to think that.

He was utilizing his position to protest against police brutality against people of color. Not protesting the flag, or the Country, or Trump, or the military, or whatever else Fox News and other media outlets wanted the story to be about.
The NFL should now force all stadiums to halt concessions and make the camera crews stop filming and make sure no one in the stadium is talking, laughing, walking around, or using the restroom...and those watching at home, you better get out of the recliner or off the couch and stand, because by damn everyone better respect the flag and the National anthem. Also, you better not have a beer koozie, a shirt, a pair of shorts, a hat, or a pair of thongs with the American flag on it...Because that's disrespecting the flag too. 'MERICA FUCK YEA!!!!

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #15 on:** May 23, 2018, 10:58:29 PM »

Quote from: The Prowler on May 23, 2018, 10:24:32 PM

He was utilizing his position to protest against police brutality against people of color. Not protesting the flag, or the Country, or Trump, or the military, or whatever else Fox News and other media outlets wanted the story to be about.
The NFL should now force all stadiums to halt concessions and make the camera crews stop filming and make sure no one in the stadium is talking, laughing, walking around, or using the restroom...and those watching at home, you better get out of the recliner or off the couch and stand, because by damn everyone better respect the flag and the National anthem. Also, you better not have a beer koozie, a shirt, a pair of shorts, a hat, or a pair of thongs with the American flag on it...Because that's disrespecting the flag too. 'MERICA FUCK YEA!!!!

As HE said, he is INTENTIONALLY not going to show pride in a flag or country.... None of those you mentioned are INTENTIONALLY trying to disrespect our flag or our country. He put his disdain for our flag and country on very public display and followed it up by saying that was his INTENT.
But as you said, "People still think it's about "disrespecting the flag"...smh, fucking morons".

Snaggletiger · « **Reply #16 on:** May 23, 2018, 11:41:53 PM »

Fuck!!! Why am I trying?

The Prowler · « **Reply #17 on:** May 24, 2018, 02:13:31 AM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on May 23, 2018, 10:58:29 PM

As HE said, he is INTENTIONALLY not going to show pride in a flag or country.... None of those you mentioned are INTENTIONALLY trying to disrespect our flag or our country. He put his disdain for our flag and country on very public display and followed it up by saying that was his INTENT.
But as you said, "People still think it's about "disrespecting the flag"...smh, fucking morons".

Not showing pride in something doesn't mean disrespecting it. I didn't show pride for Auburn football during most of the 2008 season, but I wasn't disrespectful. Now, if I would've started burning all of my Auburn gear, then yeah...that's being disrespectful.

Kaos · « **Reply #18 on:** May 24, 2018, 08:48:19 AM »

Quote from: The Prowler on May 24, 2018, 02:13:31 AM

Not showing pride in something doesn't mean disrespecting it. I didn't show pride for Auburn football during most of the 2008 season, but I wasn't disrespectful. Now, if I would've started burning all of my Auburn gear, then yeah...that's being disrespectful.

Showing disdain for the flag that represents this country is the same as burning your Auburn gear (which at this point is something we all wish you'd do).

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #19 on:** May 24, 2018, 08:51:17 AM »

Quote from: Snaggletiger on May 23, 2018, 11:41:53 PM

fudge!!! Why am I trying?

Because you care