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« on: February 25, 2018, 10:25:22 AM »
This story continues to blow my mind.  A whole lot of people missed a whole lot of red flags but that's for a separate discussion.  I would like to say I'm shocked that a school resource officer didn't go into a school with an active shooter and engage the shooter, but I'm not.  Now it looks as though multiple deputies from the same agency also failed to enter the school to engage the threat.  

I'd say Broward County has a serious problem within their office but on a more national scale, I think law enforcement has a problem.  I can promise you if you talk to anyone at any agency they can point out the people they know that will dodge a call or doesn't have what it takes to run into that situation.  This entire situation is sad on so many levels.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2018, 05:21:40 PM »
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/966854507744374784

Read that. Not sure how legit or accurate...but it's fucked up.

But too many people are worried about OHHHHHH MMYYYYYYY GOOOOOOODDDDDDDD AAAAA RRRRRRRR FIIIIIIFFFFFTEEEEEEEEENNNNNNN to pay attention to what the fuck is really happening...
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2018, 03:08:26 AM »
I call it child endangerment. The nine member board and it's superintendent need to be punished as well as the Sheriff and the attending deputies who failed to act.

What kind of agreement between a school board and a law enforcement agency allows crime to go unpunished?

And if you are a parent how can you knowingly put your child in danger and if you did so unknowingly, how could you continue?

Plenty of blame to go around without pointing it at Trump, the NRA or guns in general.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2018, 09:17:22 AM »
We were talking about this yesterday.  It's like a football player that doesn't like contact.  It's like a fireman that's afraid of fire.  It's like a garbage man who doesn't want to get dirty.  I don't like to play Monday morning quarterback, but he had one job.  To the general public, maybe it's a tough ask, but to me, that's what you signed up for.  If that agency has a policy that they are to wait, then those policies are outdated.  However, I'm assuming that he just locked up.  

This guy is 54 years old and has been on the job 30 years.  Token, you and I both know exactly what the mentality was.  Retired on duty and complacency are phrases that comes to mind.  
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2018, 10:00:25 AM »
We were talking about this yesterday.  It's like a football player that doesn't like contact.  It's like a fireman that's afraid of fire.  It's like a garbage man who doesn't want to get dirty.  I don't like to play Monday morning quarterback, but he had one job.  To the general public, maybe it's a tough ask, but to me, that's what you signed up for.  If that agency has a policy that they are to wait, then those policies are outdated.  However, I'm assuming that he just locked up.  

This guy is 54 years old and has been on the job 30 years.  Token, you and I both know exactly what the mentality was.  Retired on duty and complacency are phrases that comes to mind.  
You are a jailer too?
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2018, 10:49:22 AM »
This guy is 54 years old and has been on the job 30 years.  Token, you and I both know exactly what the mentality was.  Retired on duty and complacency are phrases that comes to mind.  
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Re: Coward from Broward
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2018, 11:10:05 AM »
I can promise you if you talk to anyone at any agency they can point out the people they know that will dodge a call or doesn't have what it takes to run into that situation.  This entire situation is sad on so many levels.
So in your opinion, what allows these people to stay on the police force, or be hired in the first place?
I've got my theories:  Lowering hiring standards and how the last 8+ years, society has emasculated the Alpha Male. 
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2018, 11:28:34 AM »
I’ve often wondered if Token carries one of those big round key rings like they have on Andy Griffith.

And if he just hangs it outside the cell or has a key hanger on his belt.

Could someone ask, please? There is a problem with my PMs.
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Re: Coward from Broward
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2018, 11:41:22 AM »
I’ve often wondered if Token carries one of those big round key rings like they have on Andy Griffith.

And if he just hangs it outside the cell or has a key hanger on his belt.

Could someone ask, please? There is a problem with my PMs.
i know there isn't a problem with you being an asshole.  
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2018, 11:43:18 AM »
i know there isn't a problem with you being an asshole.  
I think you've got him wrong.  Being an "asshole" requires some malice and/or (in the context of the X) wit.

WT is just an annoying shotgun poster with zero funny skills.
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Re: Coward from Broward
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2018, 12:15:03 PM »
I am so hurt that I cannot respond right now.
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2018, 12:29:56 PM »
I think you've got him wrong.  Being an "asshole" requires some malice and/or (in the context of the X) wit.

WT is just an annoying shotgun poster with zero funny skills.
Just so I can understand, do I actually have a zero on the funny scale?
Humor IQ of zero? And what are you and Nookie?
I honestly thought my comedy is golden. 
Cut me some slack. I’m a disabled.
Not everyone has the ability to make us roll in the aisles like you and Nookie.
You bitch.
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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2018, 12:54:20 PM »
So in your opinion, what allows these people to stay on the police force, or be hired in the first place?
I've got my theories:  Lowering hiring standards and how the last 8+ years, society has emasculated the Alpha Male.
It's a combination of problems that people get tired of hearing about.  I've long said the people who would be the best peace officers have too much sense to do the job for the salary.  In my opinion nobody should be hired into law enforcement until they've been out of high school for at least 10 years.  Had a few jobs, made it through the early 20s without any criminal history and ready for a career rather than a paycheck.  Entry level $35k isn't going to attract many people at that age unless they really just want to do that job.  That's for the rookies though.  This SRO was an older guy.  
The problem with the school resource officer job is it's boring as hell.  There isn't any real action and basically your job is spent dealing with juvenile problems at the school or just hanging out with kids.  SRO isn't a job you promote from, it's a job you go to when you're tired of the street.  If you try to correct the problem by making SRO and entry level job then you risk putting 20-22 year old males in a high school with girls who are 16-18.  We all know how that story ends.  
The best answer to the question is money.  Nobody should be in law enforcement before 26 years of age and nobody should work in law enforcement for more than 20 years.  Raise the level of pay and attract an older more qualified candidate.  Then pay enough where they can comfortably retire at 50 (if not in an administrative position) and finish out their life working part time doing what ever they want.  With every problem, if you don't pay the money on the front end you're going to be constantly spending more on the back end to fix problems.  
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Re: Coward from Broward
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2018, 01:16:57 PM »
I’ve often wondered if Token carries one of those big round key rings like they have on Andy Griffith.

And if he just hangs it outside the cell or has a key hanger on his belt.

Could someone ask, please? There is a problem with my PMs.
Have you tried creating a 12th account and sending a PM from it before I'm able to block/ignore it?  I'm sure you've ran out of email possibilities for new accounts so I'll help you out.  Try pleasegivemeattention@iwishiwerefunny.pleaselikeme.  
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Re: Coward from Broward
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2018, 01:45:18 PM »
It's a combination of problems that people get tired of hearing about.  I've long said the people who would be the best peace officers have too much sense to do the job for the salary.  In my opinion nobody should be hired into law enforcement until they've been out of high school for at least 10 years.  Had a few jobs, made it through the early 20s without any criminal history and ready for a career rather than a paycheck.  Entry level $35k isn't going to attract many people at that age unless they really just want to do that job.  That's for the rookies though.  This SRO was an older guy.  
The problem with the school resource officer job is it's boring as hell.  There isn't any real action and basically your job is spent dealing with juvenile problems at the school or just hanging out with kids**.  SRO isn't a job you promote from, it's a job you go to when you're tired of the street.  If you try to correct the problem by making SRO and entry level job then you risk putting 20-22 year old males in a high school with girls who are 16-18.  We all know how that story ends***.  
The best answer to the question is money.  Nobody should be in law enforcement before 26 years of age and nobody should work in law enforcement for more than 20 years.  Raise the level of pay and attract an older more qualified candidate.  Then pay enough where they can comfortably retire at 50 (if not in an administrative position) and finish out their life working part time doing what ever they want.  With every problem, if you don't pay the money on the front end you're going to be constantly spending more on the back end to fix problems.  
**And you said there were no perks.  
*** I don't know how that story ends.  I've tried to watch that movie several times but I never make it past about 30 minutes.  How does it end? 
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Re: Coward from Broward
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2018, 01:45:55 PM »
Have you tried creating a 12th account and sending a PM from it before I'm able to block/ignore it?  I'm sure you've ran out of email possibilities for new accounts so I'll help you out.  Try pleasegivemeattention@iwishiwerefunny.pleaselikeme.  
Just so you know, you’ll never be as funny as Wes.
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Re: Coward from Broward
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2018, 03:07:34 PM »
Welp, that didn't take long. Dalton HS, GA. on lockdown due to shots fired from a teacher.
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2018, 03:19:19 PM »
Welp, that didn't take long. Dalton HS, GA. on lockdown due to shots fired from a teacher.
Weird isn't it? A only a couple of days after Trump said it may be good to have some qualified teachers CC.
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Re: Coward from Broward
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2018, 03:46:16 PM »
Give the guy a break, it was his first desk pop.
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Re: Coward from Broward
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2018, 03:58:31 PM »
Give the guy a break, it was his first desk pop.
It’s a real thing, right?
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