Vegas shooting

[War Eagle!!!]

Campos hasn't been arrested. He was supposed to be on Sean Hanity last night...but...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/13/las-vegas-security-guard-jesus-campos-disappears-moments-before-tv-interviews.html

Some crazy shit going down...

[War Eagle!!!]

Just got back from Sin City early this morning.  We already had a show booked in Mandalay Bay before the shooting happened.  I didn't go nosing around but I did have to stop and get a perspective on everything.  Obviously, not much to see with MB itself.  Just two boarded up windows 32 stories up.  I only saw the concert venue driving slowly by and stuck in traffic beside it. It's right up next to the road. The place still looks to be a wreck and you can see where the cover over the stage is all torn up from the bullets. Memorials lining the median.

We got there 5 days after this happened but it didn't take long to realize there ain't much that slows this city down.  I don't know what I was expecting.  Maybe a little more somber mood?  Oh hell no!  That place is open for bidenzz.  What was I thinking?  Other than #vegasstrong on everything and video boards thanking the first responders, there was never a mention of it by anyone, local or tourist.   

Did you hear anything about other shooters at other casinos?

[bgreene]

Go figure, CNN

https://hoax-alert.leadstories.com/3468811-fake-news-police-did-not-arrest-mandalay-security-guard-jesus-compos-as-second-shooter-in-las-vegas-.html

[War Eagle!!!]

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/918907427524956161

Guess what. The story changed again.

This smells of MB covering their ass from a law suit. There is no way that authorities are this fucking clueless...

[Vladimir]

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/918907427524956161

Guess what. The story changed again.

This smells of MB covering their ass from a law suit. There is no way that authorities are this fudgeing clueless...

You do realize that Token is o e of these so called "authorities", don't you?

[Snaggletiger]

Did you hear anything about other shooters at other casinos?

Not a word.  Personally, I don't buy into one bit of the conspiracy theory garbage.  Or the other shooter(s) talk.  Every eye/ear witness account I've heard has been one gun firing.  Long pause to reload or change guns.  One gun firing.  Long pause. One gun....

Now honestly, I can believe things like the FBI wanting to cover up some bunglings or mishandling of this situation.  I don't know what that would be.  Maybe they had this guy on their radar at one time but let him fall through the cracks and now they don't want egg (Dead bodies) on their face.  Could be anything.  But my belief is it was a well-planned, methodically carried out attack by this one guy. Whether he was carrying it out on behalf of Allah Ha Allaha BarBar or if he was just a deranged, psychopath that wanted to go out in his own version of a blaze of glory, I hope time will give us the answers. 

As for the police.  It flat out pisses me off to hear anyone start to question their reaction to this.  I even heard Tucker Carlson on Fox start in with the response time line questions.  I have absolutely zero doubt in my mind that when the calls came in about somebody blowing away concert goers on the Strip, that they did anything other than bust their collective asses to get there, figure out the situation and do everything in their power to stop it.  The shooting lasted for 10 minutes.  Does anyone realistically believe that the police could drive there, figure out that it's coming from a particular room on the 32nd floor, get up there and stop it in less time? 

Token, bgreene....tell me, if there was an outdoor concert in your city and someone up on a hillside one thousand feet away opened fire on the crowd, how long would it take you to neutralize the situation?   

[War Eagle!!!]

Not a word.  Personally, I don't buy into one bit of the conspiracy theory garbage.  Or the other shooter(s) talk.  Every eye/ear witness account I've heard has been one gun firing.  Long pause to reload or change guns.  One gun firing.  Long pause. One gun....

Now honestly, I can believe things like the FBI wanting to cover up some bunglings or mishandling of this situation.  I don't know what that would be.  Maybe they had this guy on their radar at one time but let him fall through the cracks and now they don't want egg (Dead bodies) on their face.  Could be anything.  But my belief is it was a well-planned, methodically carried out attack by this one guy. Whether he was carrying it out on behalf of Allah Ha Allaha BarBar or if he was just a deranged, psychopath that wanted to go out in his own version of a blaze of glory, I hope time will give us the answers. 

As for the police.  It flat out pisses me off to hear anyone start to question their reaction to this.  I even heard Tucker Carlson on Fox start in with the response time line questions.  I have absolutely zero doubt in my mind that when the calls came in about somebody blowing away concert goers on the Strip, that they did anything other than bust their collective asses to get there, figure out the situation and do everything in their power to stop it.  The shooting lasted for 10 minutes.  Does anyone realistically believe that the police could drive there, figure out that it's coming from a particular room on the 32nd floor, get up there and stop it in less time? 

Token, bgreene....tell me, if there was an outdoor concert in your city and someone up on a hillside one thousand feet away opened fire on the crowd, how long would it take you to neutralize the situation?   

Not what I was talking about. I meant at other casinos in Vegas that night. There are reports that there were other shooters on the other side of the strip.

There are several facebook posts that said there were other shooters in other casinos And also there was a picture floating around that showed armed guards walking through one of the casinos with weapons drawn. Just wondering how legit those were.

And I don't fault the police for not getting there in time. That is 100% not a concern of mine. I do think that timelines keep changing because people are covering their asses from law suits. And I do think its crazy that this dude supposedly planned every bit of this and did it 100% on the downlow with no one knowing about it. And I do think it's weird that stories keep changing as to when he was even checked in to the hotel or that particular room. I also find it weird that the story is out that this hero security gaurd stopped the shooting and heroically got shot, come to find out 8 days later that the security was shot 6 minutes before, and now got shot when the other shooting started. I also do find it odd that the dude just decided to off himself, especially since the gaurd DIDN'T actually stop him from shooting, when there were no police presence up in the hallway, and he had cameras set up to detect when people approached. It all just doesn't make sense.

I wasn't going to type that much and sorry for the long paragraph, but I got rolling and don't feel like editing now. There are so many other questions too that make me believe this wasn't just some random dude doing this...

[Snaggletiger]

The shooters in other casinos was what my daughter was texting us that night while they were on lock down.  That theory presumably came from the fact that there were injured, bloodied people seeking cover in any building they could down the strip.  There were some that ran into the hotel lobby where my daughter's show is and that's why she and her cast mates ran to the nearest bathroom and locked themselves in, thinking people were being blown away in that building. Texts were flying all over with people thinking the whole Strip was under attack.

[CCTAU]

The left has backed off of their gun control diatribes a bit here lately.
Is this because every day the conspiracy grows:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/25/stephen-paddock-removed-hard-drive-from-laptop-found-in-las-vegas-hotel-room-report-says.html

[AUJarhead]

The left has backed off of their gun control diatribes a bit here lately.
Is this because every day the conspiracy grows:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/25/stephen-paddock-removed-hard-drive-from-laptop-found-in-las-vegas-hotel-room-report-says.html

This is what doesn’t make sense to me. If he removed the hard drive prior to checkin, why bring the laptop without hard drive in the first place?  If he intended to ditch the laptop hard drive while in Vegas, why leave the laptop in the hotel room at all?

[Buzz Killington]

The plot thickens.
Think he was asking too many questions?  Or maybe he knew something was up?
** so, they can find kiddie porn on his laptop, but they can't actually find the hard drive from his brother's?**
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/10/26/brother-of-las-vegas-shooter-arrested-on-child-porn-charges/?utm_term=.0b6c4f0ddd9d

Brother of Las Vegas shooter arrested on child porn charges
By Susan Hogan October 26 at 5:02 AM
 Bruce Douglas Paddock (Los Angeles Police Department)
Detectives from the Los Angeles Police Department said Wednesday that they had arrested the brother of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock on suspicion of possessing “over 600 images of child pornography.”

Bruce Douglas Paddock, 59, was arrested in North Hollywood on a 20-count felony complaint related to possession of child pornography and the sexual exploitation of children, according to a news release.

Earlier this month, Paddock’s brother, Stephen, opened fire on a crowd of concertgoers on the Las Vegas Strip, killing at least 58 people and injuring more than 500  before taking his own life. The Oct. 1 mass shooting was the deadliest in U.S. history.

Bruce Paddock was being held Wednesday at the LAPD’s Metropolitan Detention Center, according to a news release. Law enforcement confirmed that he is Stephen Paddock’s brother, the Associated Press reported.

Police said the investigation into Bruce Paddock was launched after evidence was discovered inside a business in the Sun Valley area of Los Angeles.

[CCTAU]

Quietly this continues to be a very odd situation:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/19/sheriff-fbi-ongoing-case-against-individual-other-than-paddock-video/?utm_content=buffer25df9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer