Bernie in Birmingham.

[WiregrassTiger]

Trump created an empire worth billions during that time. So "nothing" is not exactly correct.

He has not been in politics and owes no special interest groups. Some folks like that.

I'm not going to argue semantics but let me just add that he had a pretty damn good head start on the empire. And the 4 (That's FOUR) bankruptcies certainly help in "building" an empire.

Don't know if you've ever experienced being on the debtor end of one of these but I don't think it would be much fun seeing him continue cruising down Park Avenue in his limo while being a subcontractor who has to eat a chunk of his bankruptcy debt.

It was probably a good business decision each time. Just hard for me to get excited about someone that would do it 4 times being the potential leader of the free world.

[GH2001]

I'm not going to argue semantics but let me just add that he had a pretty damn good head start on the empire. And the 4 (That's FOUR) bankruptcies certainly help in "building" an empire.

Don't know if you've ever experienced being on the debtor end of one of these but I don't think it would be much fun seeing him continue cruising down Park Avenue in his limo while being a subcontractor who has to eat a chunk of his bankruptcy debt.

It was probably a good business decision each time. Just hard for me to get excited about someone that would do it 4 times being the potential leader of the free world.

But he's so awesome. He speaks for me and how angry I am. He says all the things I've been thinking. And. And. And.....

Who is it that is establishment? Siding with McConnell and getting a glowing endorsement from one of the biggest GOP con men in history, Bob Dole.

http://buzzpo.com/donald-trump-sides-with-mitch-mcconnell-against-ted-cruz/

[Snaggletiger]

I'm not going to argue semantics but let me just add that he had a pretty damn good head start on the empire. And the 4 (That's FOUR) bankruptcies certainly help in "building" an empire.

Don't know if you've ever experienced being on the debtor end of one of these but I don't think it would be much fun seeing him continue cruising down Park Avenue in his limo while being a subcontractor who has to eat a chunk of his bankruptcy debt.

It was probably a good business decision each time. Just hard for me to get excited about someone that would do it 4 times being the potential leader of the free world.

You act like you deserve to get paid for your shitty work.  Excuse me.....yes, driver..pick me up in front of The Plaza in 10 minutes. 

[Token]

Heavyweight championship boxing.  College Football.  College Basketball.  NFL fantasy football.  Golf.  Snaggle ball sack jokes on Tigersx.  Watching russian dash cam videos. 

Those are all things that entertain me.  I enjoy each and every one of them as a form of entertainment to take my mind away from the business side of being an adult.  I don't want my entertainment to spill over into the presidency.  I want to drink beer while playing golf on Saturday as a way to relax from a long work week.  That's the appropriate time to do so.  Not during the State of the Union.

When Trump is on tv shouting down people, looking like he's the opening piece to Monday night raw, that doesn't make me feel confident about him being our leader.  He's not the worst candidate, and I'll vote for him if he wins the republican ticket.  But I'd like to see him be less TV character and more business.  I'm starting to worry that he can't be.  All I can think about when he is on television shouting statistics that are incorrect, is Bobby down in the trailer park drinking a 6 pack and watching the presidential debate like it's a UFC match.  "Hell yeah Don, you tell them mexicans!!!!!  ROLL DON ROLL!!!!!"

Fuck that noise.  If he wants the chance to run this country he needs to put his game face on.  He needs to tell us what his plans are to fix this mess, he needs to show me that he's really serious about doing it, and he needs to quit pandering to the trailer park votes and make himself the best candidate in the race. 

[GH2001]

Heavyweight championship boxing.  College Football.  College Basketball.  NFL fantasy football.  Golf.  Snaggle ball sack jokes on Tigersx.  Watching russian dash cam videos. 

Those are all things that entertain me.  I enjoy each and every one of them as a form of entertainment to take my mind away from the business side of being an adult.  I don't want my entertainment to spill over into the presidency.  I want to drink beer while playing golf on Saturday as a way to relax from a long work week.  That's the appropriate time to do so.  Not during the State of the Union.

When Trump is on tv shouting down people, looking like he's the opening piece to Monday night raw, that doesn't make me feel confident about him being our leader.  He's not the worst candidate, and I'll vote for him if he wins the republican ticket.  But I'd like to see him be less TV character and more business.  I'm starting to worry that he can't be.  All I can think about when he is on television shouting statistics that are incorrect, is Bobby down in the trailer park drinking a 6 pack and watching the presidential debate like it's a UFC match.  "Hell yeah Don, you tell them mexicans!!!!!  ROLL DON ROLL!!!!!"

Fuck that noise.  If he wants the chance to run this country he needs to put his game face on.  He needs to tell us what his plans are to fix this mess, he needs to show me that he's really serious about doing it, and he needs to quit pandering to the trailer park votes and make himself the best candidate in the race.

How YOU are a bammer I'll never understand.

But agree totally. If it comes down to it against Hillary, sure I'll vote for him. Lesser of two evils.

And I hate doing that. I'd rather put the person up there who has actually done shit and not just talked it like some prize fighter to pander.

[WiregrassTiger]

Heavyweight championship boxing.  College Football.  College Basketball.  NFL fantasy football.  Golf.  Snaggle ball sack jokes on Tigersx.  Watching russian dash cam videos. 

Those are all things that entertain me.  I enjoy each and every one of them as a form of entertainment to take my mind away from the business side of being an adult.  I don't want my entertainment to spill over into the presidency.  I want to drink beer while playing golf on Saturday as a way to relax from a long work week.  That's the appropriate time to do so.  Not during the State of the Union.

When Trump is on tv shouting down people, looking like he's the opening piece to Monday night raw, that doesn't make me feel confident about him being our leader.  He's not the worst candidate, and I'll vote for him if he wins the republican ticket.  But I'd like to see him be less TV character and more business.  I'm starting to worry that he can't be.  All I can think about when he is on television shouting statistics that are incorrect, is Bobby down in the trailer park drinking a 6 pack and watching the presidential debate like it's a UFC match.  "Hell yeah Don, you tell them mexicans!!!!!  ROLL DON ROLL!!!!!"

Fuck that noise.  If he wants the chance to run this country he needs to put his game face on.  He needs to tell us what his plans are to fix this mess, he needs to show me that he's really serious about doing it, and he needs to quit pandering to the trailer park votes and make himself the best candidate in the race.

The only problem with what you're saying is that the Monday Night Raw character IS what has him atop. So, you are a minority. File for government assistance, ASAP.

And I'm pretty sure that his plan to fix the country is to file for bankruptcy. It's proven to work well for him so far.

[AUChizad]

Trump is right on 3 things:

The wall

Getting our asses out of being entrenched in the Middle East.

Improving veterans affairs

The wall is absolutely his position. And it's dumb. I know I'm the beta male hippie, but while I definitely see a need for major immigration reform, a fucking wall isn't going to do shit. It's like the anti-2A people wanting laws to stop criminals. If you think you can build an IMPENETRABLE wall across the entire 2,000 mile southern border of the United States and all of the sudden no one is going to be able to go over it, under it, or for fuck's sake around it on the roughly 100,000 miles of shoreline, you have the mind of a child. Or Trump.

How you figure he wants to get us out of the Middle East? He said he's open to putting boots on the ground in Syria. He would "Bomb the SHIT out of 'em", "blow up every single inch", and "take the oil" from Iraq.



He may have said some things to contradict that, but that's Trump in a nutshell. Whichever way the populist wind is blowing. Straight out of Hillary's handbook.

[WiregrassTiger]

^^I actually like the idea of the wall. And I love that video, so, I'm kind of liking the Donald more now after seeing that.

[Kaos]

And I hate doing that. I'd rather put the person up there who has actually done shit and not just talked it like some prize fighter to pander.

Who has actually "done shit?"

None of the above.

[Snaggletiger]

And I hate doing that. I'd rather put the person up there who has actually done shit and not just talked it like some prize fighter to pander.

What do Chinese bears have to do with any of this?

[dallaswareagle]

What do Chinese bears have to do with any of this?

What does the NFL moving a team to China have to do with this?

[GH2001]

Who has actually "done shit?"

None of the above.

Why don't you look at who fought against these things the last 4/8 years. ACA, stimulus, democrat budgets, etc etc.

Voting records are public.

[GH2001]

The wall is absolutely his position. And it's dumb. I know I'm the beta male hippie, but while I definitely see a need for major immigration reform, a fucking wall isn't going to do shit. It's like the anti-2A people wanting laws to stop criminals. If you think you can build an IMPENETRABLE wall across the entire 2,000 mile southern border of the United States and all of the sudden no one is going to be able to go over it, under it, or for fuck's sake around it on the roughly 100,000 miles of shoreline, you have the mind of a child. Or Trump.

How you figure he wants to get us out of the Middle East? He said he's open to putting boots on the ground in Syria. He would "Bomb the SHIT out of 'em", "blow up every single inch", and "take the oil" from Iraq.



He may have said some things to contradict that, but that's Trump in a nutshell. Whichever way the populist wind is blowing. Straight out of Hillary's handbook.

I don't think a wall is a solution. I just think it's a step in the right direction. It will help seal a very porous border. That has to happen first. Then we can deal with what is here in a correct manner.

On the Middle East stuff, I guess I mean in re to the Syria stuff with Putin and Isis. He had some non-interventionist take on that. If he really thinks that then yeah he's right. But like you said he sometimes contradicts himself. I like how Cruz put it with trying to force our idea of utopia on other places.

[Kaos]

Won't need the a all if we just take Mexico.  Who's going to stop us if we want it? Carve a few states out of that bitch, let the native population move to reservations and have casinos.  Solved.

[The Prowler]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonynitti/2016/01/17/bernie-sanders-releases-tax-plan-nations-rich-recoil-in-horror/#462505d27340

#Boom

[Token]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonynitti/2016/01/17/bernie-sanders-releases-tax-plan-nations-rich-recoil-in-horror/#462505d27340

#Boom

#grasshopper

[Kaos]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonynitti/2016/01/17/bernie-sanders-releases-tax-plan-nations-rich-recoil-in-horror/#462505d27340

#Boom

You will never make the world a better place by taking more money from those who make it.  It's negative incentive.  Those to whom are given have less incentive to work.  Those from whom are taken are less inclined to make.

Think about this for a minute.  My businesses are S-Corps.  If I work hard, manage my money, keep my clients happy I end up with a "paper profit" of $350,000.  No matter what VandyVol tries to tell you, that's not disposable cash.  But as an S-Corp, all of that shows up on my personal tax return as income.  So I should pay $140 grand in taxes?  Seriously? 

If I build my business over the years and decide I'm ready to retire and I'm fortunate enough to sell it for $5 million, Ol' Bernie thinks I should fork over nearly $2 mil of that to the government?

Fuck Bernie. In his dusty ass.

[CCTAU]

You will never make the world a better place by taking more money from those who make it.  It's negative incentive.  Those to whom are given have less incentive to work.  Those from whom are taken are less inclined to make.

Think about this for a minute.  My businesses are S-Corps.  If I work hard, manage my money, keep my clients happy I end up with a "paper profit" of $350,000.  No matter what VandyVol tries to tell you, that's not disposable cash.  But as an S-Corp, all of that shows up on my personal tax return as income.  So I should pay $140 grand in taxes?  Seriously? 

If I build my business over the years and decide I'm ready to retire and I'm fortunate enough to sell it for $5 million, Ol' Bernie thinks I should fork over nearly $2 mil of that to the government?

Fuck Bernie. In his dusty ass.

Yes. But the Prowler gets his share of yours, so its all good!

You gotta share that pie bitch! You didn't build that!

[The Prowler]

You will never make the world a better place by taking more money from those who make it.  It's negative incentive.  Those to whom are given have less incentive to work.  Those from whom are taken are less inclined to make.

Think about this for a minute.  My businesses are S-Corps.  If I work hard, manage my money, keep my clients happy I end up with a "paper profit" of $350,000.  No matter what VandyVol tries to tell you, that's not disposable cash.  But as an S-Corp, all of that shows up on my personal tax return as income.  So I should pay $140 grand in taxes?  Seriously? 

If I build my business over the years and decide I'm ready to retire and I'm fortunate enough to sell it for $5 million, Ol' Bernie thinks I should fork over nearly $2 mil of that to the government?

Fuck Bernie. In his dusty ass.

Yup, fork it over.

[GH2001]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonynitti/2016/01/17/bernie-sanders-releases-tax-plan-nations-rich-recoil-in-horror/#462505d27340

#Boom

He considers many on here rich in his proposals. So you are ok snatching 50% of my check and giving it to someone else against my will? Real question. Answer it.