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Bernie in Birmingham.
« on: January 18, 2016, 10:58:22 PM »
Perfect place for him to rally. Bunch of fucking idiots. $15 an hour minimum wage, free insurance and free college. It would take a special kind of fucking idiot to listen to that shit and believe it even makes a little sense.
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2016, 08:34:20 AM »
Saw the news footage this morning.  Welfare recipients and college students.  I guess it just kicked in now that they make up the majority of Americans.   :facepalm:
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2016, 08:46:59 AM »
Perfect place for him to rally. Bunch of fucking idiots. $15 an hour minimum wage, free insurance and free college. It would take a special kind of fucking idiot to listen to that shit and believe it even makes a little sense.

Hey, I know of a guy on here that....

nevermind.
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2016, 09:52:34 AM »
Hey, I know of a guy on here that....

nevermind.

That what?............. :thumsup:
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2016, 10:34:37 AM »
Saw the news footage this morning.  Welfare recipients and college students.  I guess it just kicked in now that they make up the majority of Americans.   :facepalm:

Quite a few of my colleagues went and I'm pretty sure they're ready to tattoo "Bern" on their forehead. I think they'd murder people for the guy.

These are the ones that complain about their graduate school stipend and tuition waiver and the job market while taking out loans to go on two week vacations to Iceland for "intellectual curiosity."

I do think Bernie is 100% legit in caring about the American people. One of the few honest candidates I've ever seen. But he's too reckless and foolish to have any real power. The guy would destroy our economic infrastructure just to feel like he's being fair to the proles.
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2016, 10:47:43 AM »
I do think Bernie is 100% legit in caring about the American people. One of the few honest candidates I've ever seen. But he's too reckless and foolish to have any real power. The guy would destroy our economic infrastructure just to feel like he's being fair to the proles.
Pretty much my exact take. In that sense, I prefer him to Hillary. I at least believe he thinks he's doing it for the right reasons, and think he's as transparent about what he wants to do as one can be in a primary. He ain't pandering. He's not bullshitting. He's not power grabbing.

That said, I think his math is worse than mine if he thinks the policies he wants to institute are economically feasible.
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2016, 10:52:30 AM »

I do think Bernie is 100% legit in caring about the American people. One of the few honest candidates I've ever seen. But he's too reckless and foolish to have any real power. The guy would destroy our economic infrastructure just to feel like he's being fair to the proles.
Agree with this, although I admittedly had to look up proles. I guess the 40 years of school you've been in are finally paying off.

Although I would vote for Trump before Bernie for the very reason that you state; I sure do hope that I don't have to make this call.

Why in the hell can't somebody that I really feel good about run? They don't have to be a Ronnie Reagan. What a bunch of zeroes in politics these days. And I guess that answers the question. No one worf a damn is interested in the job.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2016, 11:00:52 AM »
Why in the hell can't somebody that I really feel good about run? They don't have to be a Ronnie Reagan. What a bunch of zeroes in politics these days. And I guess that answers the question. No one worf a damn is interested in the job.
Rand Paul ran and now is getting shut out of the debates because dumbs are voting Trump up instead.

He's the only one in the field I could 100% feel good about and vocally support.

As it stands, I'll probably end up wasting a vote on Gary Johnson again.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2016, 11:16:54 AM »
Rand Paul ran and now is getting shut out of the debates because dumbs are voting Trump up instead.

He's the only one in the field I could 100% feel good about and vocally support.

As it stands, I'll probably end up wasting a vote on Gary Johnson again.
I thought that he died after Different Strokes went off the air. He was a security guard for a while after that, so I guess he's big on defense. Cool.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2016, 11:20:17 AM »
I've looked at every candidate carefully.  I don't necessarily like what I'm about to do, but there are no other viable choices. 



I'm in. 
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2016, 11:23:32 AM »
I've looked at every candidate carefully.  I don't necessarily like what I'm about to do, but there are no other viable choices. 



I'm in.

Palin just endorsed him. Ann Coulter has endorsed him.

You still sure?

This shitty stuff he is wading in with Cruz bothers the shit out of me. Its classless and has no relevance to anything of substance. Trump is not getting into ANY substance...Cruz and Rubio are, so Trump is retaliating by throwing shit at Cruz (and Rubio to a lesser degree) on the Birther stuff. Its a low class move.

I like Trump's populism but the slumming I just can't get past.
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2016, 11:28:03 AM »
Rand Paul ran and now is getting shut out of the debates because dumbs are voting Trump up instead.

He's the only one in the field I could 100% feel good about and vocally support.

As it stands, I'll probably end up wasting a vote on Gary Johnson again.

I know you dont want to hear it, but you know thats essentially a vote for Hillary.

I am "ok" with Cruz or Rubio. As far as the ones that have a chance. Trump has lost me totally.
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2016, 11:29:17 AM »
Why in the hell can't somebody that I really feel good about run? They don't have to be a Ronnie Reagan. What a bunch of zeroes in politics these days. And I guess that answers the question. No one worf a damn is interested in the job.

There are those who are interested and who would probably do a great job. 

I think Herman Cain would have made a quality president over time.  Ben Carson might, even. 

But the media decides early on what they will tolerate.   Obama fabricated his whole college experience, plagarized the papers he turned in, forged a birth certificate.  He's cool.  Carson cheated on a test in the tenth grade.  He's dogshit, ruin him! 

You end up with empty suit fucks like Obama, do nothings, career pols and... outliers like Trump who don't give a fuck and have enough money not to care. 

I loved Sarah Palin.  I hate what the media did to her. 
I don't have a major problem with Ann Coulter.  She's one voice compared to Chris Matthews, that lesbian MSNBC whore, Anderson Cooper, Whoopi Goldberg, Wolf Blitzen and so on and so on for eternity. 
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2016, 11:34:11 AM »
There are those who are interested and who would probably do a great job. 

I think Herman Cain would have made a quality president over time.  Ben Carson might, even. 

But the media decides early on what they will tolerate.   Obama fabricated his whole college experience, plagarized the papers he turned in, forged a birth certificate.  He's cool.  Carson cheated on a test in the tenth grade.  He's dogshit, ruin him! 

You end up with empty suit fucks like Obama, do nothings, career pols and... outliers like Trump who don't give a fuck and have enough money not to care. 

I loved Sarah Palin.  I hate what the media did to her. 
I don't have a major problem with Ann Coulter.  She's one voice compared to Chris Matthews, that lesbian MSNBC whore, Anderson Cooper, Whoopi Goldberg, Wolf Blitzen and so on and so on for eternity.

Would be more on board if he weren't throwing empty bombs and talked about the issues at hand more. He can be a populist and tell it like it is, and not have to resort to those tactics. You have a issue with Cruz? Fine...but make it about something worthwhile, like his stance on an issue that you disagree with...and why he is wrong and yours is right. Sell it to me. Make me want to vote for you.

The last week its essentially been (from Trump): Ted's a poo poo head and hes an illegal Cuban. He wasn't natural born. Hes a jerk. People dont like him. People like me. I can make deals. No one in DC wants to talk with Ted. Im awesome. Did I mention people in DC will like me? Ted is still an illegal unnatural poo poo face. Vote for me.

Nevermind the irony in the "DC doesnt like Ted" line. Has not Trump ran his whole campaign off being a DC outsider who isn't trying to be popular in the beltway? Cruz is getting close to him in the polls and its bothering the Fuck out of him.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2016, 11:38:55 AM »
I know you dont want to hear it, but you know thats essentially a vote for Hillary.
I don't mind hearing it. I don't care either. If it's Trump vs. Hillary, letting her win by default while voting my conscience is the lesser of three evils to me.

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I am "ok" with Cruz or Rubio. As far as the ones that have a chance. Trump has lost me totally.
Neither are perfect. I prefer Rubio to Cruz. Will take either of them 1,000 times out of 1,000 over Trump.
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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2016, 11:44:47 AM »
I'm with GH on Trump.  I've been waiting for the bubble to bust and that may finally be happening.  Look, I've never thought Trump would succeed as POTUS. In fact, I've been in the camp that feels it would be an epic disaster.  The man has pissed off and alienated too many people to get anything done if he were to get voted in.  That being said, he's been the proverbial breath of fresh air during this whole thing and in one sense, may have laid some of the groundwork for future candidates.

I've loved somebody being unafraid to say what the common man has been saying.  I've loved having someone say, "Hey, I used to be right there with all the special interests, making untold contributions to this and that in return for favors.....but not anymore".  He owes nobody and stands on his own.  Can he be a blathering idiot at times?  Yes.  And again, I don't want the guy in office.  But I'd love someone far more "polished" in the future who isn't tied to 100 special interest groups and isn't afraid to offend people by speaking his/her mind. 
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2016, 11:47:37 AM »
who isn't tied to 100 special interest groups and isn't afraid to offend people by speaking his/her mind.

And its sad that people think this is Bernie. ^^

Bernie is tied to a LOT of special interests. Newflash. He aint the saint everyone paints him as. Hes dangerous.
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2016, 12:42:50 PM »
And its sad that people think this is Bernie. ^^

Bernie is tied to a LOT of special interests. Newflash. He aint the saint everyone paints him as. Hes dangerous.

We've forgotten the danger. 

In conversations I've heard people say "I don't care if he's communist I'd vote for him over trump."  Or So what if she's a socialist? At least she's not cocky like trump.  I don't like his hair."'

Yeah.  Trunp is a blowhard.  He pisses people off for sport.  But he's not a namby pamby career politician.  And he speaks for a lot of people who don't have a voice any more because they've been shamed out of it. 

Disagree with gay marriage?  Homophobe! Queer hater!!  Don't support affirmative action? Racist!! Afraid of the cultural erosion coming with the Islamic immigration invasion? Bigot!!! 

Political correctness and the media that enforces it has robbed us of our ability to discuss topics.  And we get Trump. 
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2016, 01:16:33 PM »
I actually like Bernie more than I like Trump. But I align more with Trump politically, so this could be the first time that I've ever voted for a guy that I truly hate. And I do despise the man.

I think he's a pice of shit, egomaniac who takes pride in taking credit. And bankruptcy has saved his ass, so he shouldn't act so haughtily.

Yet, he'd be much better at running the country than Bernie or Billary.

Bill would actually be a better choice than any of the 3, for me.

Trump only edges out the Dems for me.

I loathe that man more and more each day.
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2016, 03:54:05 PM »
The question is where the hell does Trump align politically? He's a huge progressive in my eyes.  You can hate me for saying it but it's completely true.

Sanders wants to fundamentally transform America and that is completely wrong.

My vote goes to Cruz. One of the things I like about him is that not many people try to attack him on issues because they know they'll lose.  Also, I don't have to apologize for anything Cruz says or does because it's exactly what I believe. Trump and his leftist slander tactics tell me exactly who he is.  Any attack against Ted Cruz is now an attack against me.
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