Here's the Republican front runner...

[CCTAU]

Another interesting take on Trump and why he resonates with the middle:


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-is-shocking-vulgar-and-right-213572


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[AUChizad]

Trump is laughing his ass off at the rubes who support him.
http://nyti.ms/1nEKNoF

From deporting Mexican immigrants and barring Muslims to slapping a 45 percent tariff on Chinese imports, Mr. Trump invents his positions as he goes along. His supporters say they don’t care. What they may not know is how deliberately he is currying their favor. At a meeting with The Times’s editorial writers, Mr. Trump talked about the art of applause lines. “You know,” he said of his events, “if it gets a little boring, if I see people starting to sort of, maybe thinking about leaving, I can sort of tell the audience, I just say, ‘We will build the wall!’ and they go nuts.”

[Snaggletiger]

Another interesting take on Trump and why he resonates with the middle:


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-is-shocking-vulgar-and-right-213572


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That sir, is a damn fine read.  Says it much better than I've been trying to say it.  Again, he's not my choice but that explains why he's captured the attention of so many.  Especially the last few paragraphs.

[CCTAU]

That sir, is a damn fine read.  Says it much better than I've been trying to say it.  Again, he's not my choice but that explains why he's captured the attention of so many.  Especially the last few paragraphs.

All the haters can do is hate. It's not about whether he's right for the nomination or not. It's about why he is even winning.

What I find interesting is that MANY older folks are listening to Trump. Guys who have been staunch republicans for a long time. Old guys and women are listening. They feel that Trump is saying what they feel!

And old people are interesting lime that. They only care abou America being badass strong again. Like when they were young. It resonates with them.

[GH2001]

At work without these?
Military
Highways & roads
Police & Fire Depts
Public librarys
Bridges
US postal service
Student loans and grants
CIA
FBI
IRS
EPA
War
Garbage collection
Landfills
GI Bill
Public schools
Social Security
Corporate/business subsides
VA health care
Sewer System
Court System
The Polio Vaccine
...I can continue, but I'm sure y'all get the point. ALL of these and more are due to Socialism.

Again, thank goodness for socialism.

You really need a history lesson. And quit reading those junk sites where they espouse this convenient crap.

Never mind HALF of them are local or state. Some of the others are actually paid into. Some are true functions of the federal govt such an interstates and military. Then the others are just normal taxes for public works.

Socialism implies wealth redistribution, single payer systems and controlling the means and ends of all production (goods and services). Huge difference braniac. But I'm sure your uber cool innernetz sites you read told you all of that.

Most of these things are not paid for by federal income taxes anyway. Most of every federal tax dollar goes to a combo of: entitlements (hhs) + national debt payments. Reagan figured this out in the 80s with a lengthy bipartisan study. Look it up.

[GH2001]

That sir, is a damn fine read.  Says it much better than I've been trying to say it.  Again, he's not my choice but that explains why he's captured the attention of so many.  Especially the last few paragraphs.

Yes. It explains it. But it shouldn't be that way. How is this any different than 08 with Barry?

[The Six]

Yes. It explains it. But it shouldn't be that way. How is this any different than 08 with Barry?

It's not. A third party outsider has taken over the GOP because the party has rested too long on "the old way" of doing it. Truth is, you can never really "Go Back" in life. You can only go forward from the position you take hold of. If the GOP would embrace this and stop with all the Reagan-thumping, they would be a better slate of candidates.

Meanwhile, over in the DNC land, you have everyone mystified by the fraud candidacy that is Bernie Sanders. I think this has been Hilary's race since she lost to Barry in '08 in spite of the piles of bodies left behind everywhere she's been. Won't be one bit surprised when Sanders ends up as her running mate. Either that or she asks Joe Biden to step in again. (VP is not subject to term limits and Obama all but endorsed such a move with last SOTU.)

[AUChizad]

Again, thank goodness for socialism.

I don't want to get too far into the weeds with you on this, because A this thread is about Trump and B I highly suspect you are 99.9% trolling.

But just in the 0.1% chance event that you're not: Look at what is happening RIGHT NOW with Greece, Spain, Italy, Venezuela to see that Socialism simply does not work in practice. Let alone if you get into historical accounts of it taken to its logical conclusion (Lenin, Mao, Stalin, Mussolini, Castro).

Read this article published THREE DAYS AGO on the "success" of socialist Venezuela.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/29/venezuela-is-on-the-brink-of-a-complete-collapse/

[GH2001]

It's not. A third party outsider has taken over the GOP because the party has rested too long on "the old way" of doing it. Truth is, you can never really "Go Back" in life. You can only go forward from the position you take hold of. If the GOP would embrace this and stop with all the Reagan-thumping, they would be a better slate of candidates.

Meanwhile, over in the DNC land, you have everyone mystified by the fraud candidacy that is Bernie Sanders. I think this has been Hilary's race since she lost to Barry in '08 in spite of the piles of bodies left behind everywhere she's been. Won't be one bit surprised when Sanders ends up as her running mate. Either that or she asks Joe Biden to step in again. (VP is not subject to term limits and Obama all but endorsed such a move with last SOTU.)

The problem is that they Reagan thump to pander. But none of them come close to matching Reagans effectiveness. Trump is a fraud who saw the GOP side as the easiest way to get to the White House. Style over substance. It's as simple as that. More to do with the electorate than the candidates. If you sift through the weeds, there are several solid people on the GOP side not named trump. Not perfect mind you but all have various success in office. Even Jeb was a great governor. Kasich and Christie are good governors. Rubio and Cruz are smart young solid guys. Carson has been kinda new and different (albeit asleep).

[The Six]

The problem is that they Reagan thump to pander. But none of them come close to matching Reagans effectiveness. Trump is a fraud who saw the GOP side as the easiest way to get to the White House. Style over substance. It's as simple as that. More to do with the electorate than the candidates. If you sift through the weeds, there are several solid people on the GOP side not named trump. Not perfect mind you but all have various success in office. Even Jeb was a great governor. Kasich and Christie are good governors. Rubio and Cruz are smart young solid guys. Carson has been kinda new and different (albeit asleep).

I have maintained for a good while that Jeb may have been the "best" Bush to run but he picked the wrong time.

[bottomfeeder]

Could you image Obama or trump having this kind of power?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=lHq433BAjVM

[The Prowler]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/bernie-sanders-socialism-_b_7210120.html

I'm guessing this is another one of those "junk sites", nice little history lesson regarding Socialism.

[The Prowler]

You really need a history lesson. And quit reading those junk sites where they espouse this convenient crap.

Never mind HALF of them are local or state. Some of the others are actually paid into. Some are true functions of the federal govt such an interstates and military. Then the others are just normal taxes for public works.

Socialism implies wealth redistribution, single payer systems and controlling the means and ends of all production (goods and services). Huge difference braniac. But I'm sure your uber cool innernetz sites you read told you all of that.

Most of these things are not paid for by federal income taxes anyway. Most of every federal tax dollar goes to a combo of: entitlements (hhs) + national debt payments. Reagan figured this out in the 80s with a lengthy bipartisan study. Look it up.

I'm thinking you should take a history lesson or maybe research where our tax dollars go, just saying. Also know that we have enjoyed socialism our whole lives.

[bottomfeeder]

I'm thinking you should take a history lesson or maybe research where our tax dollars go, just saying. Also know that we have enjoyed socialism our whole lives.

Our income taxes go to pay the big banks the interest they charge on the currency they loan back the government.

16th amendment.

[GH2001]

Our income taxes go to pay the big banks the interest they charge on the currency they loan back the government.

16th amendment.

Don't confuse him with facts.

Most tax dollars go to pay the interest on the national debt + HHS. FACT. This is all on the Dept of Treasury Site and Congressional Budget Office sites prowler. But keep arguing with numbers if you wish. In Bernie you Trust.

[The Prowler]

[CCTAU]

Trump whipping that ass in NH!


Well. It at least was a good debate!

[GH2001]

Trump whipping that ass in NH!


Well. It at least was a good debate!

I actually thought Christie and Kasich such did the best. Rubio took a step down as Chris ate him alive. Cruz and Trump held serve. Bush has done better but too little too late.

I've come around to Kasich lately. He's pragmatic. I just think he needs to explain his common core and Medicare expansion stances. But overall he's pretty solid. Actually, all of the guys on the stage minus Carson and Trump, I think would do a good job. Most of them actually already have.

Carson is clueless and asleep. Trump will fall victim to his own hubris like he's done many times in his business career. Except when running a country you don't get to write off your failures to bankruptcy protection and get a mulligan.

[CCTAU]

I actually thought Christie and Kasich such did the best. Rubio took a step down as Chris ate him alive. Cruz and Trump held serve. Bush has done better but too little too late.

I've come around to Kasich lately. He's pragmatic. I just think he needs to explain his common core and Medicare expansion stances. But overall he's pretty solid. Actually, all of the guys on the stage minus Carson and Trump, I think would do a good job. Most of them actually already have.

Carson is clueless and asleep. Trump will fall victim to his own hubris like he's done many times in his business career. Except when running a country you don't get to write off your failures to bankruptcy protection and get a mulligan.

Four times out of a lot of successful companies is not MANY, but I see your point.

Christie and Kasich need to leave the stage. Same ole Crap. Kasich is the same ole RINOs we have in DC. And Christie ruined his chances back when he slobbed the great ONE's knob during Sandy. Many, many will never forget that.

Love Carson, but time to go.

Get us Trump, Cruz, and Rubio on stage alone, and let us see what we have.

[WiregrassTiger]

Four times out of a lot of successful companies is not MANY, but I see your point.

Christie and Kasich need to leave the stage. Same ole Crap. Kasich is the same ole RINOs we have in DC. And Christie ruined his chances back when he slobbed the great ONE's knob during Sandy. Many, many will never forget that.

Love Carson, but time to go.

Get us Trump, Cruz, and Rubio on stage alone, and let us see what we have.

Four times is not MANY, huh? Would like this explained to me so that I could understand it. There are plenty of people out there who are as successful or more successful (i.e., who don't overstate their wealth) than Trump who don't have 4 bankruptcies.

That's a dumb statement and I hope you really don't believe that. He started out as a multi-millionaire. Gained ground, yes. Took property from private citizens through imminent domain working through the gov't.

I'm really disappointed in your business morals if you see bankruptcy as a sound option 4 freaking times. I guess that's why you toot this con man's horn.

He's a fucking fraud man. I promise. He's saying what people like you want to hear but be can't and won't do shit. Very similar to Obama.