The committee

[Kaos]

Utter bullshit.  Frauds and liars.

Alabama didn't want to play Oklahoma in Dallas. That wouldn't be fair.  Whine, whine, bitch, cry.  Alabama didn't want Oklahoma to play in Dallas because it would be like a home game for them. Whine, whine, bitch, cry.

They claim those sort of things don't play into their rankings, but when their playoff pairings came out?  Michigan State jumped to three, bumping OU to fourth, thus guaranteeing that Alabama would not have to play Oklahoma first and the Sooners wouldn't get to play in Dallas. 

I don't much like OU, but this was absolute bullshit.  Fuck this committee.  It's no different than the ancient sportswriters who sat around remembering the glory days when they could still get it up and consistently put "traditional" teams at the top of the rankings.  Fuck them. 

[Godfather]

Utter bullshit.  Frauds and liars.

Alabama didn't want to play Oklahoma in Dallas. That wouldn't be fair.  Whine, whine, bitch, cry.  Alabama didn't want Oklahoma to play in Dallas because it would be like a home game for them. Whine, whine, bitch, cry.

They claim those sort of things don't play into their rankings, but when their playoff pairings came out?  Michigan State jumped to three, bumping OU to fourth, thus guaranteeing that Alabama would not have to play Oklahoma first and the Sooners wouldn't get to play in Dallas. 

I don't much like OU, but this was absolute bullshit.  Fuck this committee.  It's no different than the ancient sportswriters who sat around remembering the glory days when they could still get it up and consistently put "traditional" teams at the top of the rankings.  Fuck them.

YES... In the face!

[Jumbo]

YES... In the face!

You complete me.

[RWS]

Really, I think that you could make the argument that MSU should be #2.  OU and MSU have both lost to a 5-7 team, but MSU has two wins over top 10 teams whereas OU does not.  MSU played this week and beat the #4 team.  OU doesn't play in a championship game.  I think it's great that they're willing to "penalize" a team (really the conference) for not having a conference championship game.

I would rather have Alabama playing Oklahoma really.  I think they have a better chance against OU because Alabama typically does better in "revenge" type games.  MSU has a QB that is going to go in the 1st round of the draft, and they have a good team overall.  Elite QBs usually give Alabama fits.  MSU has a better chance of beating Alabama this year I think.

[Godfather]

nom nom nom...goat noise...yada yada

bah ...fuck errebody!

[GH2001]

Really, I think that you could make the argument that MSU should be #2.  OU and MSU have both lost to a 5-7 team, but MSU has two wins over top 10 teams whereas OU does not.  MSU played this week and beat the #4 team.  OU doesn't play in a championship game.  I think it's great that they're willing to "penalize" a team (really the conference) for not having a conference championship game.

I would rather have Alabama playing Oklahoma really.  I think they have a better chance against OU because Alabama typically does better in "revenge" type games.  MSU has a QB that is going to go in the 1st round of the draft, and they have a good team overall.  Elite QBs usually give Alabama fits.  MSU has a better chance of beating Alabama this year I think.

You really counting that win they had over Michigan as quality? Really??

[RWS]

You really counting that win they had over Michigan as quality? Really??

I didn't mention Michigan anywhere, but whatever.

MSU has wins against the then #3 and #4 teams this season, with both of those teams now still top 10.  Both were also undefeated.  Both in the past 3 weeks.  Like I said, I could make a pretty good argument that MSU should be #2.  I don't think it's crazy to move them above Oklahoma, who doesn't even play a championship game.  They really should be ahead of Alabama IMO.

[Token]

Really, this fucked Alabama. They needed all 20 practices to beat Oklahoma. Now if they beat Michigan State, they won't even get half of that.

But don't let me interrupt the conspiracy speculations.

[Snaggletiger]

Really, this fucked Alabama. They needed all 20 practices to beat Oklahoma. Now if they beat Michigan State, they won't even get half of that.

But don't let me interrupt the conspiracy speculations.

Ha!!!  So, the reverse conspiracy is working like a charm.  It's now too late when you finally realize that the plan all along was to soften up your pathetic excuse for a team, with a physical club like Michigan State.  Then, when you come crawling into ....well, wherever the NCG is being played...beat up, hapless, tattered and torn...begging for mercy...there will be none. The Sooners will strike the final blow.  Put the nail in the coffin.  Tell the fat bitch to sing....and all the other overused clichés I can think of.  (Damn it, who keeps putting the gay little mark over the e?)

Execute Doctor Evil maniacal laugh.

[djsimp]

Execute Doctor Evil maniacal laugh.

[GH2001]

Really, this fucked Alabama. They needed all 20 practices to beat Oklahoma. Now if they beat Michigan State, they won't even get half of that.

But don't let me interrupt the conspiracy speculations.

Im not gonna go down the conspiracy route on this one, but I do think the logic they used is a little screwy. Oklahoma was by far (aside from the Tx game) a more dominant team this year. They both beat the same amount of quality teams (if you count that shit michigan win) but to me Oklahoma looked better doing so.

[War Eagle!!!]

Really, this fucked Alabama. They needed all 20 practices to beat Oklahoma. Now if they beat Michigan State, they won't even get half of that.

But don't let me interrupt the conspiracy speculations.

That's right Saban.

Really, I think that you could make the argument that MSU should be #2.  OU and MSU have both lost to a 5-7 team, but MSU has two wins over top 10 teams whereas OU does not.  MSU played this week and beat the #4 team.  OU doesn't play in a championship game.  I think it's great that they're willing to "penalize" a team (really the conference) for not having a conference championship game.

I would rather have Alabama playing Oklahoma really.  I think they have a better chance against OU because Alabama typically does better in "revenge" type games.  MSU has a QB that is going to go in the 1st round of the draft, and they have a good team overall.  Elite QBs usually give Alabama fits.  MSU has a better chance of beating Alabama this year I think.

You're a dumb ass...

[Kaos]

I was wrong in what I thought about the committee.  It wasn't about satisfying bama bitching about having to play Oklahoma or letting OU open play in Dallas.  It was more nefarious than that. 

Look back at the last four or five years.  What kind of team consistently beats Saban?  Ole Miss. Auburn. Oklahoma. Ohio State. Utah.

What kind of team does Alabama usually skull fuck?  Arkansas, Michigan, LSU. 

They didn't want Alabama to possibly have to face two teams that would challenge them in that way.  God forbid Alabama play Clemson's fast-paced offense AND Oklahoma's.   Nope. Give them Michigan State first so they can cave-man slug it out and Saban only has to prepare for ONE up-tempo modern offense. 

Fuck all ya'll committees.  I figured this out. 

[Townhallsavoy]

I was wrong in what I thought about the committee.  It wasn't about satisfying bama bitching about having to play Oklahoma or letting OU open play in Dallas.  It was more nefarious than that. 

Look back at the last four or five years.  What kind of team consistently beats Saban?  Ole Miss. Auburn. Oklahoma. Ohio State. Utah.

What kind of team does Alabama usually skull fuck?  Arkansas, Michigan, LSU. 

They didn't want Alabama to possibly have to face two teams that would challenge them in that way.  God forbid Alabama play Clemson's fast-paced offense AND Oklahoma's.   Nope. Give them Michigan State first so they can cave-man slug it out and Saban only has to prepare for ONE up-tempo modern offense. 

Fuck all ya'll committees.  I figured this out.

Perhaps.

I think it's more about desiring traditional matchups.

These are old white haired white men with a few tokens making decisions based on what old white haired white men with money (TV execs and their ilk) believe is good college football.

Alabama vs. Oklahoma gets old guys telling stories about Keith Jackson, Bear Bryant, and Bud Wilkinson. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of them think this game would feature the triple option and wishbone.

Clemson and Michigan State are the odd balls out. Michigan State has a bit of pull, but I'm sure the old guys would rather Michigan. Clemson is for sure the odd ball out.

[GH2001]

Perhaps.

I think it's more about desiring traditional matchups.

These are old white haired white men with a few tokens making decisions based on what old white haired white men with money (TV execs and their ilk) believe is good college football.

Alabama vs. Oklahoma gets old guys telling stories about Keith Jackson, Bear Bryant, and Bud Wilkinson. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of them think this game would feature the triple option and wishbone.

Clemson and Michigan State are the odd balls out. Michigan State has a bit of pull, but I'm sure the old guys would rather Michigan. Clemson is for sure the odd ball out.

You may have the traditional part right. But the old white men part is just you being a college student.

You have blacks, hispanics, jews and women on that committee. Maybe they are just inept and stupid and it has nothing to do with Old White Men.

[Townhallsavoy]

Jews aren't white? And is Tranghese hispanic?

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/selection-committee

Look at that list. It's a bunch of old traditional bubs with as I said, a few tokens. Black lady. Black guy. The rest are just the type to sit in stuffy arm chairs while reading a newspaper, thinking about the good ole days when Allllaaabama and Ooooklahoma would play for all the marbles. Hell, even the black guy and lady are the type to have a wet dream over Notre Dame, Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, or USC playing in the championship game.

[Buzz Killington]

[GH2001]

Jews aren't white? And is Tranghese hispanic?

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/selection-committee

Look at that list. It's a bunch of old traditional bubs with as I said, a few tokens. Black lady. Black guy. The rest are just the type to sit in stuffy arm chairs while reading a newspaper, thinking about the good ole days when Allllaaabama and Ooooklahoma would play for all the marbles. Hell, even the black guy and lady are the type to have a wet dream over Notre Dame, Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, or USC playing in the championship game.

Alvarez is.

Last I checked Jews were Hebrew and from Israel and Whites are from Europe.

I agree with you - point is, I just don't think it has anything to do with old white men sitting around in the leather bound books and dreaming of the old days when their kind ruled the world. Its just a bunch of blue blooded brass of all shapes and colors who have no clue about any of this objectively.   

[Godfather]

Alvarez is.

Last I checked Jews were Hebrew and from Israel and Whites are from Europe.

I agree with you - point is, I just don't think it has anything to do with old white men sitting around in the leather bound books and dreaming of the old days when their kind ruled the world. Its just a bunch of blue blooded brass of all shapes and colors who have no clue about any of this objectively.

I have said it before and I will say it again when you bring people into the equation there will always be biases.  I honestly don't understand why we didn't just keep the current BCS poll system and just take the top 4 teams.

At the very least hire full time folks that this is all they do.  With all the money college football makes I don't understand why we couldn't bring in folks that this was their only job?  You can't honestly tell me that this committee watches all of the games, in fact I know they don't. They break the games up and dole them out. 

[Snaggletiger]

Heard Finebaum interviewing a guy from ESPN a while back and asking him what he thought about all the griping around the country over SEC bias. Why did they keep picking big SEC match ups for Game Day etc.? The guy was straightforward about it. The SEC was the hottest thing going.  Whether you loved them, hated them, whatever...it was the SEC that put people in the stands and asses in front of televisions. 

I have no doubt that a potential Bama/OU championship game came into play when the committee made their decisions. Face it, the powers that be, the networks, the sponsors all would much rather see those two than MSU vs. Clemson.  $$$$$