New OC in Theory....

GH2001 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 30, 2015, 01:14:43 PM »

Quote from: RottenBottom on November 30, 2015, 01:10:25 PM

The main problem I have with the offense Gus runs is I don't think it is designed to come from behind. When it dominates a game it is a thing of beauty! But how many times have you felt helpless when we do fall behind.

I suggest we try not to fall behind very often then.

jmar · « **Reply #21 on:** November 30, 2015, 01:16:41 PM »

Quote from: djsimp on November 30, 2015, 12:57:48 PM

That, I think is the only way Gus saves Lashlee from PTB. Gus would basically have to put all bets on next year and guaranteeing success with a new QB running the show.

Lovable Les would never be on chopping block with a good QB. Richt has struggled with this recently and he is now gone. Where would Big Game Bob be with Trevor Knight? Or Dumbo Swinney without Deshaun Watson?
McElwain had Greer...but now he has Treon Harris.
Mullen-Prescott et al.

There are exceptions...
Serviceable works for Nick Saban rolling 4 deep at most every position.

Kaos · « **Reply #22 on:** November 30, 2015, 01:21:31 PM »

Quote from: RottenBottom on November 30, 2015, 01:10:25 PM

The main problem I have with the offense Gus runs is I don't think it is designed to come from behind. When it dominates a game it is a thing of beauty! But how many times have you felt helpless when we do fall behind.

Seriously?

Until this season NEVER. Behind was never a problem. If we had the ball down 10 with 24 seconds left I knew we could score twice. Never doubted. Until this season - actually until the botched snap against Texas A&M last year - I always felt offensively invincible. Until that botched snap I was confident we were going to score whenever we wanted to and as much as we wanted to.

JR4AU · « **Reply #23 on:** November 30, 2015, 01:30:03 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on November 30, 2015, 01:21:31 PM

Seriously?

Until this season NEVER. Behind was never a problem. If we had the ball down 10 with 24 seconds left I knew we could score twice. Never doubted. Until this season - actually until the botched snap against Texas A&M last year - I always felt offensively invincible. Until that botched snap I was confident we were going to score whenever we wanted to and as much as we wanted to.

^^THIS^^

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #24 on:** November 30, 2015, 01:33:53 PM »

Quote from: CCTAU on November 30, 2015, 12:46:53 PM

Sure. We would just have to fire what we have now. That would be an intelligent move...

If you fire them, they will come. Or something like that.

WiregrassTiger · « **Reply #25 on:** November 30, 2015, 01:35:20 PM »

I have a long and unrealistic list. But, realistically, jmar or Prowler. And they may be better play callers than Lashlee.

RottenBottom · « **Reply #26 on:** November 30, 2015, 01:36:44 PM »

Quote from: Kaos on November 30, 2015, 01:21:31 PM

Seriously?

Until this season NEVER. Behind was never a problem. If we had the ball down 10 with 24 seconds left I knew we could score twice. Never doubted. Until this season - actually until the botched snap against Texas A&M last year - I always felt offensively invincible. Until that botched snap I was confident we were going to score whenever we wanted to and as much as we wanted to.

You say that, but we've suffered far too many blowouts in the Gus era, against major rivals I might add, for that to be true.

JR4AU · « **Reply #27 on:** November 30, 2015, 01:52:04 PM »

Quote from: RottenBottom on November 30, 2015, 01:36:44 PM

You say that, but we've suffered far too many blowouts in the Gus era, against major rivals I might add, for that to be true.

Um, no...

2014: Of the 5 losses...

Never in the game against MSU due to 21pts scored by MSU in the 1st. Lost by 15 (blowout?)
Lost by 3 to aTm, and but for a botched snap on a final drive would have tied or won.
UGA loss 34-7, blow out.
Lost to #1 Bama by 11, and had a lead going in the the 4th Q.
Lost in OT to Wisc by 3.

2013 2 losses
by 14 to LSU in there place
by 3 to FSU in the NC game on a last second score.

In 2013 and 14 he only failed to score 30pts or more 4 times.

djsimp · « **Reply #28 on:** November 30, 2015, 02:02:25 PM »

Ok, maybe the question should be....(see poll added above)

JR4AU · « **Reply #29 on:** November 30, 2015, 02:03:38 PM »

Quote from: djsimp on November 30, 2015, 02:02:25 PM

Ok, maybe the question should be....

Just spitballin' here...

Who is the new QB, and when will he be on campus?

djsimp · « **Reply #30 on:** November 30, 2015, 02:06:11 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on November 30, 2015, 02:03:38 PM

Just spitballin' here...

Who is the new QB, and when will he be on campus?

James Franklin III JUCO transfer
Woody Barrett

Both considered dual threat.

JR4AU · « **Reply #31 on:** November 30, 2015, 02:09:09 PM »

Quote from: djsimp on November 30, 2015, 02:06:11 PM

James Franklin III JUCO transfer
Woody Barrett

Both considered dual threat.

I think you'll see "the genius" in Gus' system return if and when they have a decent QB, and in the whole program if they can put a good (or great) offense together, and the defense continues to improve.

djsimp · « **Reply #32 on:** November 30, 2015, 02:18:04 PM »

My concern is that there will be those that try and force Malzahn to make such a move like we have seen with all the past Auburn head coaches. Do I think Lashlee should be fired, no I don't. I would like to see the continuity of the coaching staff continue to grow and mesh instead of bringing in a new coordinator every year AU does bad. Plus, I think we can all agree that Gus has his hands in what the offense does.

Again, its whether Lashlee should or should go but more about the folks with the money making him go. With that said and using the past as a measuring stick, I am betting that Lashlee goes.

djsimp · « **Reply #33 on:** November 30, 2015, 02:19:40 PM »

Quote from: GH2001 on November 30, 2015, 01:14:43 PM

I suggest we try not to fall behind very often then.

Then there is that.

GH2001 · « **Reply #34 on:** November 30, 2015, 02:56:08 PM »

Quote from: JR4AU on November 30, 2015, 01:52:04 PM

Um, no...

2014: Of the 5 losses...

Never in the game against MSU due to 21pts scored by MSU in the 1st. Lost by 15 (blowout?)
Lost by 3 to aTm, and but for a botched snap on a final drive would have tied or won.
UGA loss 34-7, blow out.
Lost to #1 Bama by 11, and had a lead going in the the 4th Q.
Lost in OT to Wisc by 3.

2013 2 losses
by 14 to LSU in there place
by 3 to FSU in the NC game on a last second score.

In 2013 and 14 he only failed to score 30pts or more 4 times.

was about to say....even this year, only LSU really blew us off the field.

bottomfeeder · « **Reply #35 on:** November 30, 2015, 02:58:01 PM »

Quote from: jmar on November 30, 2015, 12:26:34 PM

Baylor is considered a system and Auburn's is to to a degree considering the blocking style with pace. I just like the attacking style of Briles over the fight from your back/win it in the end style of Gus.

GUS's keep close until the fourth quarter and then find a way to win mantra needs to be removed from the AU lexicon.
I'm sick of that come from behind mentality. I want a team that will overcome all, even the zebras. Shit like bad and no calls won't matter because we will steamroll that shit.

JR4AU · « **Reply #36 on:** November 30, 2015, 03:57:53 PM »

Quote from: GH2001 on November 30, 2015, 02:56:08 PM

was about to say....even this year, only LSU really blew us off the field.

My memory is short, and had to go back and look at '14. I forgot that we should have been in the hunt for it all, but for having no defense. That could have easily been a 10-11 win team with just a break or 2 here or there even not having any defense.

JR4AU · « **Reply #37 on:** November 30, 2015, 03:59:46 PM »

Quote from: bottomfeeder on November 30, 2015, 02:58:01 PM

GUS's keep close until the fourth quarter and then find a way to win mantra needs to be removed from the AU lexicon.
I'm sick of that come from behind mentality.

That's pretty much a coaching mantra...it's not a come from behind mentality.

JR4AU · « **Reply #38 on:** November 30, 2015, 04:04:12 PM »

Quote from: jmar on November 30, 2015, 12:26:34 PM

Baylor is considered a system and Auburn's is to to a degree considering the blocking style with pace. I just like the attacking style of Briles over the fight from your back/win it in the end style of Gus.

The conference Baylor plays in is far different defensively than the SEC. That said, I assure you that Gus' style isn't a fight from your back mentality. Yes, this season, it looked ugly...because it was. After 3 games, Gus/Lashlee were waffling back and forth between grab-bagging the offense, and going untra conservative.

The Prowler · « **Reply #39 on:** November 30, 2015, 05:01:58 PM »

Either promote Coach Craig to OC/QB Coach and bring in a bonifide WR Coach...or promote Bobby Bentley to QB Coach (he's well known in South Carolina as being a "QB Guru")/Co-Oc with Coach Craig.