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The next, next great thing?

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Re: The next, next great thing?
« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2015, 05:37:12 PM »
Like I've said before, Coach Malzahn does better with a true dual threat QB. JF3 might be the man at QB next year. If that's the case what do you think Sean White should do?


Keep in mind, Auburn also has a incoming freshman in Dual Threat Elite 11 QB Woody Barrett (6'2" 225lbs 4.6 40) that has ran the Zone Read all throughout his high school career.



Don't look for top shelf pro style QBs to consider Auburn as long as the Gus/wildcat mindset prevails.
White will likely transfer at season's end and who could blame him?

 
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Re: The next, next great thing?
« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2015, 07:13:35 PM »
Don't look for top shelf pro style QBs to consider Auburn as long as the Gus/wildcat mindset prevails.
White will likely transfer at season's end and who could blame him?
I wouldn't blame him at all.

Let's take another look at Coach Malzahn's QBs while at Auburn:

2009 Chris Todd (JUCO QB, groomed by someone else), he set records at Auburn
2010 Cameron Newton (JUCO QB, groomed by someone else), he set records, Championship
2011 Barrett Trotter, Kheil Frazier (he ran Malzahn's Offense all throughout HS) & Clint Moseley
2013 & 2014 Nick Marshall (JUCO QB, groomed by someone else) set records, Championship
2015 Jeremy Johnson & Sean White
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Re: The next, next great thing?
« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2015, 07:40:00 PM »
So also give crebit where crebit be due.

In JUCO, that grooming allowed him to throw 20 interceptions in a shorter season and I believe a buttload of fumbles...and 15 sacks.  At Auburn under Malzahn:

2013  142-239  1,976 yds  14 TD's  6 INT's  12 rushing TD's

2014  178-293  2,532 yds  20 TD's  7 INT's  11 rushing TD's

That's flat out improving as a QB. 
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Re: The next, next great thing?
« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2015, 03:21:13 AM »
So also give crebit where crebit be due.

In JUCO, that grooming allowed him to throw 20 interceptions in a shorter season and I believe a buttload of fumbles...and 15 sacks.  At Auburn under Malzahn:

2013  142-239  1,976 yds  14 TD's  6 INT's  12 rushing TD's

2014  178-293  2,532 yds  20 TD's  7 INT's  11 rushing TD's

That's flat out improving as a QB.
He had to convince Marshall not to waste a down by launching a deep ball down the field.
Uh Nick we actually have a punter for this at Auburn.
The decreased fumbling is just genius coaching...no doubt about it!   :facepalm:
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Re: The next, next great thing?
« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2015, 04:08:27 AM »
So also give crebit where crebit be due.

In JUCO, that grooming allowed him to throw 20 interceptions in a shorter season and I believe a buttload of fumbles...and 15 sacks.  At Auburn under Malzahn:

2013  142-239  1,976 yds  14 TD's  6 INT's  12 rushing TD's

2014  178-293  2,532 yds  20 TD's  7 INT's  11 rushing TD's

That's flat out improving as a QB.
That one JUCO season was his first season back at QB and included 100 more passing attempts and he was the team's leading rusher...they basically asked him to do everything. When he came to Auburn he had a much better OL, a stable of RBs and some receivers that could catch nearly everything thrown close to them (Sammie Coates & Duke Williams).
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Re: The next, next great thing?
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2015, 05:44:03 AM »
That one JUCO season was his first season back at QB and included 100 more passing attempts and he was the team's leading rusher...they basically asked him to do everything. When he came to Auburn he had a much better OL, a stable of RBs and some receivers that could catch nearly everything thrown close to them (Sammie Coates & Duke Williams).
No doubt. The trick was harnessing the abundance of raw talent while trimming away the backyard element to make it palpable enough for the SEC.
It's quite possibly Malzahn's greatest achievement.
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Re: The next, next great thing?
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2015, 07:53:33 AM »
He had to convince Marshall not to waste a down by launching a deep ball down the field.
Uh Nick we actually have a punter for this at Auburn.
The decreased fumbling is just genius coaching...no doubt about it!   :facepalm:

So teaching ball security is not part of coaching?   :facepalm:

You guys are right. One more season under Malzahn and Nick Marshall would have been digging ditches for a living.   
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Re: The next, next great thing?
« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2015, 07:55:52 AM »
No doubt. The trick was harnessing the abundance of raw talent while trimming away the backyard element to make it palpable enough for the SEC.
It's quite possibly Malzahn's greatest achievement.
I agree, he was able to hone him down to resemble a QB. But one thing I do remember, Marshall did throw some of those same passes that Johnson has been throwing (double coverage throws), but Marshall had Coates and Duke catching.
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Re: The next, next great thing?
« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2015, 09:54:30 AM »
I agree, he was able to hone him down to resemble a QB. But one thing I do remember, Marshall did throw some of those same passes that Johnson has been throwing (double coverage throws), but Marshall had Coates and Duke catching.

And then that part where we still ran the ball 2/3 of the time.
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Re: The next, next great thing?
« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2015, 11:09:54 AM »
I agree, he was able to hone him down to resemble a QB. But one thing I do remember, Marshall did throw some of those same passes that Johnson has been throwing (double coverage throws), but Marshall had Coates and Duke catching.


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Re: The next, next great thing?
« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2015, 11:24:35 AM »
I agree, he was able to hone him down to resemble a QB. But one thing I do remember, Marshall did throw some of those same passes that Johnson has been throwing (double coverage throws), but Marshall had Coates and Duke catching.
I was thinking that the other day. We've been doing this hail Mary shit for several years now.

I remember on more than one occasion saying, "Damn, we are lucky that was not picked off"!
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Re: The next, next great thing?
« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2015, 12:04:42 PM »
I was thinking that the other day. We've been doing this hail Mary shit for several years now.

I remember on more than one occasion saying, "Damn, we are lucky that was not picked off"!


JJ should have cured you of that.
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Re: The next, next great thing?
« Reply #52 on: November 06, 2015, 04:17:26 PM »
I was thinking that the other day. We've been doing this hail Mary shit for several years now.

I remember on more than one occasion saying, "Damn, we are lucky that was not picked off"!
Exactly, with Marshall we had the receivers that would go up and snatch it...now we have Stonehands.
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