I Can't Be Bothered With This

[CCTAU]

The part about the whiskey....it was, I say it was a joke, son.  I keep tossin' em' and you keep missin' em'. 


Nice boy but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice.

My part about the PHS Lions was a joke.

Your whiskey a male go-go comment was a tell tale sign...

[Snaggletiger]

My part about the PHS Lions was a joke.

Your whiskey a male go-go comment was a tell tale sign...

Look, the Supreme Court said it's okay.  It's now the American way.

[WiregrassTiger]

I like you, so I want you to know something. If you are ever mauled by a lion, it will be next to impossible for me to stop laughing.

I want to apologize in advance for laughing at your funeral, if this does happen. And that's assuming I have a blank social calendar on that day. Like that's going to happen.

[jmar]

Different take on hunting that has nothing to do with Cecil the Lion or some diva 911 dispatcher.  Throughout college and a few years after, I was huge into whitetail deer hunting.  Had all the guns, all the gear, all the doe piss or whatever vile liquid we used to mask our filthy human scents.  I was living in Montgomery and Auburn during those years and me and my buddies had access to a lot of hunting land.  Got married and she took me and my balls down to LA.  Had access to hunting land down here too but after a few trips, I realized that "hunting" had little to do with the hunt and almost everything to do with getting together with my friends.  (Cue Deliverance movie quotes in 3...2...1...)

Very similar to golf for me.  In my former life when I worked for a company, the guys I worked with were constantly playing golf.  We'd rarely let 2 weeks go by without a round.  Left and opened my own business and I haven't played 3 rounds in almost 15 years.  It wasn't the golf.  It was drinking beer and talking shit.  Just like hunting. It was about throwing back shots of whiskey and shooting up anything that might have moved.  WOOOOOO WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO......   

Similar outcome for me.
Hunting required a bunch of gear often in shitty weather maybe even with an overnight stay.
Golf however was perfect for me.
 
I mean: where else but a golf course can you be fairly close to home in good weather, drink beer and gamble... all away from the wife?
It's the perfect game!

BTW, talking shit isn't considered part of the hobby. 

[Godfather]

Different take on hunting that has nothing to do with Cecil the Lion or some diva 911 dispatcher.  Throughout college and a few years after, I was huge into whitetail deer hunting.  Had all the guns, all the gear, all the doe piss or whatever vile liquid we used to mask our filthy human scents.  I was living in Montgomery and Auburn during those years and me and my buddies had access to a lot of hunting land.  Got married and she took me and my balls down to LA.  Had access to hunting land down here too but after a few trips, I realized that "hunting" had little to do with the hunt and almost everything to do with getting together with my friends.  (Cue Deliverance movie quotes in 3...2...1...)

Very similar to golf for me.  In my former life when I worked for a company, the guys I worked with were constantly playing golf.  We'd rarely let 2 weeks go by without a round.  Left and opened my own business and I haven't played 3 rounds in almost 15 years.  It wasn't the golf.  It was drinking beer and talking shit.  Just like hunting. It was about throwing back shots of whiskey and shooting up anything that might have moved.  WOOOOOO WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO......   

I thought you quit golf because you kept losing your balls?

[Snaggletiger]

I thought you quit golf because you kept losing your balls?

Well, that did have something to do with it.  Every time I played a course with any water on it, I just couldn't avoid hitting at least.......saaayyy, that's not what you meant, was it?

[JR4AU]

I'm glad you quit then. The stereotype of the ignorant drunk redneck hunter comes to mind.

Responsible hunting is more than that. But you know that.

I love to hunt. It does create more enjoyment when I am with family and friends. But I love the meat. No preservatives, no hormones, no drugs.

And the money I put into it goes directly to the preservation of many species.

I'm not a sport hunter. Never have been. But others are. And that is there thing. As long as they do not waste the meat, I'm fine with that.

Much more good come to the local people from a legal Cecil kill than does harm. If it was illegal, then by all means string the guy up. But pussified Americans really need to stay out of it. Let Zimbabwe take care of it. I don;t see anyone here trying to figure out how to feed, clothe, and vaccinate the people of Zimbabwe, so don't feign outrage over a single lion. 

Go PHS Lions!

See, I like lions.

Agree on hunting.  To each his own if you like it or don't, it's a matter of individual tastes as long as it's done legally.

I've known guys like this dentist.  They are not "hunters".  They have money to burn, they decide they want a trophy wombat and call somebody in New Zealand and say "how much for a trophy wombat?"  Enterprising guide says "bazillion dollars and you get your pick of trophy wombats".    Now, good sense would tell most folks that "hunting" isn't that easy for most things that would be a trophy, but our guy with more money than sense isn't really interested in the hunt, he's interested in the trophy and doesn't ask questions.   Truth is our wombat hunter would be happy to have it chained to the tarmac when he lands, kill it shooting from the widow of the plane,  never have to set foot on New Zealand soil, go home and have the skin Fed Ex'd home. Whether this dentist KNEW or should have known that the hunt's legality was questionable is up for debate.  I lean towards he should have probably known, if not full on ok'd whatever tactics it took to get it a "black maned MGM trophy" lion.  He probably did enough to maintain plausible deniability.  That said, there are unethical guides in Africa, and it's possible he was taken...I don't think that's the case...but it's possible.  If they can prove he knew, or even should have known, then he should be prosecuted.  At the very least, when they found the dead lion and it had a tracking collar they tried to destroy, then he knew something was up then, and he engaged in cover up.  That in and of itself is foul play.   

[Godfather]

He probably did enough to maintain plausible deniability.  That said, there are unethical guides in Africa, and it's possible he was taken...I don't think that's the case...but it's possible.  If they can prove he knew, or even should have known, then he should be prosecuted.  At the very least, when they found the dead lion and it had a tracking collar they tried to destroy, then he knew something was up then, and he engaged in cover up.  That in and of itself is foul play.   

Add to the fact that I find it hard to believe they noticed the tracking collar after they removed the lions head and skinned it? BTW no one will be prosecuted in this, they will all bribe their way out.  The landowner is some relative of a judge over there.  Nothing will come of it.

[JR4AU]

Add to the fact that I find it hard to believe they noticed the tracking collar after they removed the lions head and skinned it? BTW no one will be prosecuted in this, they will all bribe their way out.  The landowner is some relative of a judge over there.  Nothing will come of it.

You may be correct on prosecution over there, but they're attempting to do it here based on the fact that the planning was done here.  Honestly, the hysteria over Cecil the lion's death is purely an American deal.  The people in Africa don't give a shit.  It's just another lion as far as they're concerned, but hey may very well get him here on that far reaching Federal statute.  I would like to see guys like him given pause on scheduling "canned hunts" due to being prosecuted.   If anybody might be discouraged from breaking a law for fear of prosecution, it's guys like this. 

[GH2001]

You may be correct on prosecution over there, but they're attempting to do it here based on the fact that the planning was done here.  Honestly, the hysteria over Cecil the lion's death is purely an American deal.  The people in Africa don't give a shit.  It's just another lion as far as they're concerned, but hey may very well get him here on that far reaching Federal statute.  I would like to see guys like him given pause on scheduling "canned hunts" due to being prosecuted.   If anybody might be discouraged from breaking a law for fear of prosecution, it's guys like this.

Sorry but it WAS just another lion. Circle of life, nature. It's a cruel bitch.

Bigger fish to fry in the world right now.

[chinook]

Bigger fish to fry in the world right now.

Whale?

[JR4AU]

Sorry but it WAS just another lion. Circle of life, nature. It's a cruel bitch.

Bigger fish to fry in the world right now.

Yep

[JR4AU]

Whale?

Tastes like spotted owl.

[DnATL]

Sorry but it WAS just another lion. Circle of life, nature. It's a cruel bitch.

Bigger fish to fry in the world right now.

Whale?

Is that where Thlirra run off to?

[GH2001]

Whale?

Its a mammal, but yeah sure. We wouldnt be hungry for a while.

[chinook]

Its a mammal, but yeah sure. We wouldnt be hungry for a while.

whatever.

i was a marine biologist.

[dallaswareagle]

Sorry but it WAS just another lion. Circle of life, nature. It's a cruel bitch.

Bigger fish to fry in the world right now.

I hope my circle of life doesn't include getting shot so MF'er can hang my head on the wall.

That would be most unkeen.

[chinook]

Sorry but it WAS just another lion. Circle of life, nature. It's a cruel bitch.

i'm not sure if serious.

i was hoping to get back to this earlier but data service has been a hit and miss up in the tree.

is so, i completely disagree with the ignorance on display here.   circle of life, nature...whatever.  it was a hunt...a paid hunt.   there isn't anything regarding circle of life, nature about this hunt. 

secondly, regarding your statement it WAS just another lion.  the thing is...it wasn't. lion populations are threatened and will continue to decline.  it wouldn't surprise me if the African lion doesn't warrant an endangered tag in the next decade.

i'll put "it WAS just another lion" in a different light though, perhaps closer to home...

[forget status of the animal...it isn't in play] let's say you got invited to go on a bird hunt, but not just any old crow hunt.  it was a bird of prey hunt...an adventure in the forests of Auburn, AL and knew it was an opportunity to bag a Golden Eagle. 

bam! bam! 

you've downed this remarkable predator. 

but it turns out it wasn't just any other Golden Eagle but Nova... the War FUCKING Eagle VII.  you didn't know...fine but whoever guided you on this hunt knew.  released [stole] it from a captive state, ripped the identification tag off, led it to the forest you were hunting, and spotted it for you. 

you destroyed a symbol.  a mascot.  a kid's delight.  a study of research.  a stud for conservation.

anyway...

[CCTAU]

i'm not sure if serious.

i was hoping to get back to this earlier but data service has been a hit and miss up in the tree.

is so, i completely disagree with the ignorance on display here.   circle of life, nature...whatever.  it was a hunt...a paid hunt.   there isn't anything regarding circle of life, nature about this hunt. 

secondly, regarding your statement it WAS just another lion.  the thing is...it wasn't. lion populations are threatened and will continue to decline.  it wouldn't surprise me if the African lion doesn't warrant an endangered tag in the next decade.

i'll put "it WAS just another lion" in a different light though, perhaps closer to home...

[forget status of the animal...it isn't in play] let's say you got invited to go on a bird hunt, but not just any old crow hunt.  it was a bird of prey hunt...an adventure in the forests of Auburn, AL and knew it was an opportunity to bag a Golden Eagle. 

bam! bam! 

you've downed this remarkable predator. 

but it turns out it wasn't just any other Golden Eagle but Nova... the War FUCKING Eagle VII.  you didn't know...fine but whoever guided you on this hunt knew.  released [stole] it from a captive state, ripped the identification tag off, led it to the forest you were hunting, and spotted it for you. 

you destroyed a symbol.  a mascot.  a kid's delight.  a study of research.  a stud for conservation.

anyway...

And I must ask if the drivel you posted above was truly serious.

Eagles in this country have been protected wince 1940. It is illegal to just about touch an eagle. So your whole diatribe is moot.


The circle of life includes humans. Lions are not endangered and in some parts of the world are a nuisance. You know, like killing and eating people! So what if it was a paid hunt. The permits allowed are to control the population of lions. Got a permit, a lions gonna die. If not a paid hunter bringing money in for the locals, then it will be some hired gun by the government. And the locals don't get squat.  As long as it was done within the confines of the law, why do you care. The locals certainly do not. And the fact that it was an old lion was even better. As lions get older, they lose privilege within the pride. Then they have to hunt their own food, including people.

I love how peoples' hearts are just crying over this damn lion when the little kids that are living in the village next door are dieing of disease and hunger.

Holy shit people, its a damn lion. They are not endangered and the guy had a tag. If the guide did anything illegal, then stick it to him.


And the lion population is not threatened and declining due to hunting, they are losing their habitat daily due to people. If you want to save the lion, send money for contraceptives.


So yes, it was just another lion; just like the other five elephants killed the same week and countless other animals killed during the same time frame. All under permit from the Zimbabwe government.


I hear you'll have a higher rate of success saving the whales....

[CCTAU]

I hope my circle of life doesn't include getting shot so MF'er can hang my head on the wall.

That would be most unkeen.

I think you misunderstand the circle of life. You would not be on somebody's wall. You would be processed in a pile of lion shit.