Big Game Saturday Part Duex 10.11.14

[jmar]

JMO, but it looks like Nick runs scared. I don't expect him to plow over people, but on the read sweep if he keeps the ball he heads out of bounds if a defender gets the in the area.

He always falls forward, can buy more time than most anybody but he sometimes gets ridden down by as many as three and yes he might angle more so toward the boundary though I don't think it's out of fear. The truly fast know to hit the sidelines where defenders are more likely to miss.

[CCTAU]

JMO, but it looks like Nick runs scared. I don't expect him to plow over people, but on the read sweep if he keeps the ball he heads out of bounds if a defender gets the in the area.

You are not alone. Only the blind would disagree!

[jmar]

You are not alone. Only the blind would disagree!

I will only disagree because we don't know Marshall's heart as a competitor or what Lashlee has instructed as far as contact is concerned. Slower less nimble pocket passers are generally taught to slide rather than take on a linebacker but I could see a proponent for JJ wanting Nick to bow-up on just about everybody which is inadvisable if not totally stupid.   

[GH2001]

Oh I agree but it won't happen, not with playmaker Marshall and the mindset that we can win any close game. How about learning to play with the lead and actually finishing?
I too enjoy watching JJ at QB but aren't we supposed to stick with the company line, "In Gus We trust?"
I don't doubt he has his fingers on the pulse of the offense but it's kind of tiresome watching us fight while on our backs instead of toeing up and hammering away from start to finish.

If we are going to have our Offensive identity be what it was last year (zone read), then sure Marshall is fine. And up until now I thought that was the direction we were going. Shit worked like clockwork last week. Why were we going so vertical in the rain? 3rd and 4 throwing bombs. Or on the flip side 3rd and 22 and running a draw. IF...big IF....IF we are going to do the vertical shit so much it just makes more sense to let JJ have at it (circa first half against Arky). I understand he may be wanting to stick with his guy NM, but passing long just isn't his strong suit. Especially in the friggin rain.

[GH2001]

You are not alone. Only the blind would disagree!

He does.

He also doesn't have a body like Cam that can take those licks. So I get it but shit, this is football. The pussy footing out of bounds instead of turning it upfield was annoying to say the least.

[CCTAU]

He does.

He also doesn't have a body like Cam that can take those licks. So I get it but shit, this is football. The pussy footing out of bounds instead of turning it upfield was annoying to say the least.

I understand sometimes, but when we need two yards for a first and he casually jogs out of bounds on a third down , it just looks bad.

[The Prowler]

I do know this for a fact, the intermediate passing game appears, by some form of magic, when Jeremy Johnson is throwing the ball all over the place. I can't remember who it was against, maybe Arkansas, but at one point JJ had six completions, in a row, to 5 different receivers. Hell, Melvin Ray caught two of the passes and I thought he graduated with the '05 class...I was half expecting to see Courtney Taylor catching a couple pass from JJ.

Point being, JJ throws to every receiver and hardly ever locks into one, unless he's trying to throw off the Safeties, in which case, he'll lock in then rope it 15 yards across the field...placing the ball perfectly into the receiver's hands (he wouldn't have been able to walk up to the receiver and place it in his hands any better), hitting him in stride...hell, Ricardo Louis was catching his passes and he can't catch a fucking thing, unless it's continuously being knocked back into his hands by God (Miracle in Jordan-Hare).

[Townhallsavoy]

Johnson's the better passing quarterback.  But Gus is also considered one of if not the most brilliant mind in college football today.  He thinks Marshall gives us the best chance to win.

I have to think a big part of it is our inability to run the ball up the middle.  CAP just isn't doing what Mason did nor is Fulse doing what Prosch did nor is Coleman doing what Robinson did.  We also are missing Kozan big time. 

When you can't run up the middle, you have to try to run outside.  Marshall gives us the advantage on the edge.

When you can't run the ball, you have to throw downfield.  We don't know how Johnson would do under serious pressure, and I don't think trying him out in a #2 vs. #3 situation would be a good way to find out.  We know what we can accomplish with Marshall. 

Marshall is more of a sure thing right now.  Johnson could be Tom Brady, but how many other backups came in for an injured starter only to suck it up?

[WiregrassTiger]

With the lack of red zone production, I hope Gus will start putting JJ in when we get there. I think he's the answer to those woes.

[djsimp]

Not saying Pat Miller is not a good player but I saw him in the game and there were a couple times he looked really confused.

[Godfather]

I do know this for a fact, the intermediate passing game appears, by some form of magic, when Jeremy Johnson is throwing the ball all over the place. I can't remember who it was against, maybe Arkansas, but at one point JJ had six completions, in a row, to 5 different receivers. Hell, Melvin Ray caught two of the passes and I thought he graduated with the '05 class...I was half expecting to see Courtney Taylor catching a couple pass from JJ.

Point being, JJ throws to every receiver and hardly ever locks into one, unless he's trying to throw off the Safeties, in which case, he'll lock in then rope it 15 yards across the field...placing the ball perfectly into the receiver's hands (he wouldn't have been able to walk up to the receiver and place it in his hands any better), hitting him in stride...hell, Ricardo Louis was catching his passes and he can't catch a fucking thing, unless it's continuously being knocked back into his hands by God (Miracle in Jordan-Hare).

This might be post of the year.

[Godfather]

I have a question....What happened to Roc and better yet the rest of our running backs.  Babar and Grant?

Grant was in a handful of times, Roc was making things happen and then disappeared.  I like CAP but he isn't our only option. 

[WiregrassTiger]

This might be post of the year.

But, I think that it's worth pointing out that there are mostly shitty posts so far this year, so in reality, this means it's less shitty than most. And even then, I think that it's debatable.

[Godfather]

Not saying Pat Miller is not a good player but I saw him in the game and there were a couple times he looked really confused.

I'll say it, Pat Miller shouldn't be starting.

[Townhallsavoy]

I have a question....What happened to Roc and better yet the rest of our running backs.  Babar and Grant?

Grant was in a handful of times, Roc was making things happen and then disappeared.  I like CAP but he isn't our only option.

Roc showed his raw talent, but he was careless with the ball.  Running backs can't just go balls-out when running into an SEC defensive back seven.  Fumbles will happen.  They have to use vision and patience before hitting the emerging hole.

He was in on a few more plays.  I think he got one carry in the 2nd half that went for a very short gain.  I'm excited about his future, but I about puked when he was doing that crazy shit with the ball away from his body.

[Godfather]

Roc showed his raw talent, but he was careless with the ball.  Running backs can't just go balls-out when running into an SEC defensive back seven.  Fumbles will happen.  They have to use vision and patience before hitting the emerging hole.

He was in on a few more plays.  I think he got one carry in the 2nd half that went for a very short gain.  I'm excited about his future, but I about puked when he was doing that crazy shit with the ball away from his body.

Boy likes him some or (for Uncle Sani)

[WiregrassTiger]

I understand sometimes, but when we need two yards for a first and he casually jogs out of bounds on a third down , it just looks bad.

I think that a lot of it has to do with being coached to not take the hit as a QB and the risk/reward factor. If it's for the SEC champ or in the playoffs, it's different. Football has changed a lot since most of you played....the tuba.

[dallaswareagle]

I think that a lot of it has to do with being coached to not take the hit as a QB and the risk/reward factor. If it's for the SEC champ or in the playoffs, it's different. Football has changed a lot since most of you played....the tuba.

If we don't win the first ones we don't get to the second ones.

[CCTAU]

If we don't win the first ones we don't get to the second ones.

I chortled at his dumbassery too.

[CCTAU]

I do know this for a fact, the intermediate passing game appears, by some form of magic, when Jeremy Johnson is throwing the ball all over the place. I can't remember who it was against, maybe Arkansas, but at one point JJ had six completions, in a row, to 5 different receivers. Hell, Melvin Ray caught two of the passes and I thought he graduated with the '05 class...I was half expecting to see Courtney Taylor catching a couple pass from JJ.

Point being, JJ throws to every receiver and hardly ever locks into one, unless he's trying to throw off the Safeties, in which case, he'll lock in then rope it 15 yards across the field...placing the ball perfectly into the receiver's hands (he wouldn't have been able to walk up to the receiver and place it in his hands any better), hitting him in stride...hell, Ricardo Louis was catching his passes and he can't catch a fucking thing, unless it's continuously being knocked back into his hands by God (Miracle in Jordan-Hare).

This is not a mystery. It's called height!