Mike Brown: Trayvon Part 2

[Townhallsavoy]

Through reading the entire thread, I think you are just wanting the cop to be guilty.

To be fair, there are others in this thread who just want Mike Brown to be guilty. 

We don't really have enough information to claim anything at this point.  Probably never will. 

[bgreene]

To be fair, there are others in this thread who just want Mike Brown to be guilty. 

We don't really have enough information to claim anything at this point.  Probably never will.

I agree that some people do, however I don't recall reading any on this thread that stand out to me.

[smooth_operator]

What percentage is this?

Pretty damn%
As a side note congrats on the name change..he was Matt, looks like he's changing to Bob.

[WiregrassTiger]

Tell y'all what..... I will show up to the next X outing with a knife, and I'll bet any amount of money that there isnt a single motherfudgeer on this board who can disarm me with their bare hands. 

Not one. 

And to those pussies who think you can sit in your car and roll your windows up, I can get in there in stab your asses too.

Afterwards, your families can hire a tax attorney to liquidate my assets to help pay for your funerals.

If there is one other thing I hate worse than pigs, it's people who run their mouths on internet message boards. Big talkers.

I will take this challenge. If you go to church, take my advice and wear a tie because I will knock you and your Uncle Henry into Sunday morning. Be reading up in your law enforcement manual about the easiest way to swallow 7 or 8 teeth at one time.

I will be there about 30 minutes before kick off. It won't take long. But you should probably get there about 15 or 20 minutes early to practice falling down.

[GH2001]

If there is one other thing I hate worse than pigs, it's people who run their mouths on internet message boards. Big talkers.

I will take this challenge. If you go to church, take my advice and wear a tie because I will knock you and your Uncle Henry into Sunday morning. Be reading up in your law enforcement manual about the easiest way to swallow 7 or 8 teeth at one time.

I will be there about 30 minutes before kick off. It won't take long. But you should probably get there about 15 or 20 minutes early to practice falling down.

You forgot the part about packing a sack lunch...probably full of donuts.

[WiregrassTiger]

You forgot the part about packing a sack lunch...probably full of donuts.

I thought this would go without saying.

[smooth_operator]

Are you surprised, Ben?
I want the cop to be guilty, honestly.
Think about it. If it is ruled that his use of force is legal:

Thousands of dollars in property damage will have been for nothing. Multiple injuries for nothing.
Multiple arrests, for nothing. People on what could be, generously, called both sides of the "debate" will have used nothing as an excuse to say some vile, horrible shit. Cops everywhere have learned that Eric Holder and others will automatically assume they are murderers for no legal reason.

Even if that cop's use of force is declared legal his life is ruined. He has to change his name. He has to move. He can never dare to work in law enforcement again. Multiple studies have indicated that the emotional damage from lawful killing (combat, law or self defense) is hugely intensified by the knowledge that the general public doesn't think it was right. This is why a lot of experts believe that Vietnam vets have such a high rate of PTSD. So picture it.. If this cop did the right thing he went to work that night a normal guy, got in a tight spot and reacted with the courage it took to confront a situation. He then (if he was right) was forced to kill another human. He then had to sit back and watch this whole thing develop (riots, national press, ect) and he couldn't say anything in his own defense. He has been vilified by persons in his own government, people in the streets and people on the internet. People have called him a cold blooded, racist murderer. I don't want to see that alll that happened to someone who did the right thing. I don't think I'll be able to sleep after that. I might have to change jobs and go into forestry or some shit after that.

[Kaos]

I'm so sick of glorifying the criminals.

Saw them praising the rioters and unifying behind the dead menacing thief on the VMAs last night.  Somebody should have shot them too. 

[WiregrassTiger]

I'm so sick of glorifying the criminals.

Saw them praising the rioters and unifying behind the dead menacing thief on the VMAs last night.  Somebody should have shot them too.

You need sensitivity training.

[Saniflush]

You need sensitivity training.

With a tazer

[CCTAU]

Have they killed all the whiteys yet?

[Token]

Have they killed all the whiteys yet?

No, because they are all moving away.

[CCTAU]

No, because they are all moving away.

Ah. Another liberal win. Just like Detroit.

[GH2001]

No, because they are all moving away.

White Flight!

Its racist!!!!! How dare they.

[Snaggletiger]

A lot of back and forth and deep analysis. The concept is really much simpler than most of you are making it out to be. 

If you don't want to be dead, don't walk towards a cop with a knife in your hand, pleading for him to shoot you.  I fail to see how the discussion should go much further than that.

[GH2001]

A lot of back and forth and deep analysis. The concept is really much simpler than most of you are making it out to be. 

If you don't want to be dead, don't walk towards a cop with a knife in your hand, pleading for him to shoot you.  I fail to see how the discussion should go much further than that.

Its what happens when logic goes out the window and emotion enters.

[WiregrassTiger]

A lot of back and forth and deep analysis. The concept is really much simpler than most of you are making it out to be. 

If you don't want to be dead, don't walk towards a cop with a knife in your hand, pleading for him to shoot you.  I fail to see how the discussion should go much further than that.

It gives me a lot of confidence in our system to know that as a man of your character and principles, you would turn down the opportunity to represent in this multi-million dollar verdict.

[Snaggletiger]

It gives me a lot of confidence in our system to know that as a man of your character and principles, you would turn down the opportunity to represent in this multi-million dollar verdict.

Homey don't sue no cop.  They have other cop friends with guns and various fiendish weapons, who take offense to that and just might decide that Snags needs pulling over one late evening on his way home.

[GH2001]

Anecdotal evidence?  Oh look, it exists for the other side!

Fast forward to 7:30; guy stabs multiple cops because they pussy foot around with their guns:




Guy stabs police officer at a traffic stop.  He then runs into the police vehicle.  Officer tries to tase him, and the taser doesn't connect.  Guy drives off with police vehicle:

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/06/10/bensalem-cop-reportedly-stabbed-police-vehicle-stolen-by-suspect/


Three police officers show up to a call regarding a mentally disturbed man with a knife.  They fire a taser at him; it fails.  As a result, one officer winds up paralyzed and without an eye:

http://nypost.com/2014/04/24/thug-gets-54-years-to-life-after-brutally-stabbing-3-cops/



Kudos to the German cop and whoever else is able to non-lethally neutralize someone wielding a knife, but it's not as simple as some of you are making it out to be.

Hence why I said Good Luck. I'm not taking my chances pussy footing around or aiming for leg (smaller target) while a guy just feet away from me wields a knife and would love to hack me up.

BTDubs - sorry but you can't admit this anecdotal info as evidence. Per you.

[GH2001]

Off topic:
The claim of a orbital bone fracture (per sources close to someone) & the xrays of a fractured orbital bone are false, per CNN.

Is this the same CNN that reported he was shot in the back 100 feet away and that Al Gore won Florida? Maybe ESPN can confirm.