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My life in the corporate world.

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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2014, 03:09:04 AM »
Hell with all y'all. 

I eat only what I kill. I work for myself and what I provide, I create.  I provided myself a new car last month.  And I paid the cash for it.  I provided myself a new house six months ago.  Don't owe nern on it.  I played golf today because I wanted to.  The people who work for me don't have that option.  going to take two weeks off because I can. 

I couldn't ever work for anybody else.  My ceiling is only limited by my willingness to bust through it.  And then  bust through the next ceiling. 

Wouldn't wish this life on anybody. It's not for everybody. It's a good life but it comes with a price of its own.  Nothing is guaranteed. Some people couldn't sleep with that pressure looming.  Come to think of it, I don't sleep much but it isn't because I'm worried about it. 

I had a conversation with a friend who works at a college.  Got tenure. He said he could never be me because he would always be afraid that things would collapse and he'd end up with nothing.  And I could never be him because somebody else decides how high I can fly.  He's never going to make any more than somebody above him determines he can.  Sure, I could end up in a bind.  But I could also make fat stacks. 

What were we talking about again?
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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2014, 09:17:44 AM »
I never implied you were lazy.  I wasn't even doing a comparison. I was making a point about my own choices and the benefits they provide.  Things that mean something to me.  My own measure of success for MYSELF.  The choices YOU were dismissing. And take your false sympathy elsewhere.  Don't knock something you've never tried.

I don't live in the safety net of the suburbs. I live in a very rural area. Town of 10,000 people. But where I live has nothing to do with what I do.  Yes, I work hard but enjoy what I do because I find it interesting and stimulating. And if someone wants to pay me well to do it, even if it means sitting in an office, then what's wrong with that?  I work where I do because because I find it to be challenging. I work because I like it.  It satisfies me. It obviously doesn't do it for you. Good luck with that.   

I find teaching to be a wonderful profession - I've done it, at Auburn, and might even do it again once I retire some day.

But... didn't you quit your teaching job?

You really don't see how this:

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It must be so nice to be so casual about life, but I couldn't stand to have your lifestyle either.  I like paying my own way, using my actually useful degree to earn a good living, being valued for my skills and abilities  and helping my company grow and be profitable.

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By any measure, I am successful and I can take complete credit for that, because I work my ass off - and I'm glad I do.

in direct response to me implied that my lifestyle is lazy and without value? 

I've worked my ass off too the past year and did so as a teacher for six years.  I've greatly enjoyed having flexible hours and not having a supervisor or boss to answer to.  It's been a nice way to live, and I don't see how I could enjoy the office environment.  I'm glad you do, and I'm glad it works for some people. 

I quit teaching because I didn't feel like I was a good fit for teaching teenagers especially teenagers with learning disabilities or hindrances.  I also hated the "be at work at 7am and you cannot leave until 3pm unless we schedule a meeting then you cannot leave until 430" rule.  I like delving into a subject completely when teaching and not having to hold everything back until it's just a teaspoon full of easily regurgitated trivia facts.  I also like the idea of advancing a field through research and contributing to a better life for people. 

I thought you lived in Houston?
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Re: My life in the corporate world.
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2014, 09:29:00 AM »
You really don't see how this:

and this:

in direct response to me implied that my lifestyle is lazy and without value? 

I've worked my ass off too the past year and did so as a teacher for six years.  I've greatly enjoyed having flexible hours and not having a supervisor or boss to answer to.  It's been a nice way to live, and I don't see how I could enjoy the office environment.  I'm glad you do, and I'm glad it works for some people. 

I quit teaching because I didn't feel like I was a good fit for teaching teenagers especially teenagers with learning disabilities or hindrances.  I also hated the "be at work at 7am and you cannot leave until 3pm unless we schedule a meeting then you cannot leave until 430" rule.  I like delving into a subject completely when teaching and not having to hold everything back until it's just a teaspoon full of easily regurgitated trivia facts.  I also like the idea of advancing a field through research and contributing to a better life for people. 

I thought you lived in Houston?

You suck...deal with it.
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Re: My life in the corporate world.
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2014, 09:49:47 AM »
You really don't see how this:

and this:

in direct response to me implied that my lifestyle is lazy and without value? 

I've worked my ass off too the past year and did so as a teacher for six years.  I've greatly enjoyed having flexible hours and not having a supervisor or boss to answer to.  It's been a nice way to live, and I don't see how I could enjoy the office environment.  I'm glad you do, and I'm glad it works for some people. 

I quit teaching because I didn't feel like I was a good fit for teaching teenagers especially teenagers with learning disabilities or hindrances.  I also hated the "be at work at 7am and you cannot leave until 3pm unless we schedule a meeting then you cannot leave until 430" rule.  I like delving into a subject completely when teaching and not having to hold everything back until it's just a teaspoon full of easily regurgitated trivia facts.  I also like the idea of advancing a field through research and contributing to a better life for people. 

I thought you lived in Houston?
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Re: My life in the corporate world.
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2014, 09:50:23 PM »
You really don't see how this:

and this:

in direct response to me implied that my lifestyle is lazy and without value? 

I've worked my ass off too the past year and did so as a teacher for six years.  I've greatly enjoyed having flexible hours and not having a supervisor or boss to answer to.  It's been a nice way to live, and I don't see how I could enjoy the office environment.  I'm glad you do, and I'm glad it works for some people. 

I quit teaching because I didn't feel like I was a good fit for teaching teenagers especially teenagers with learning disabilities or hindrances.  I also hated the "be at work at 7am and you cannot leave until 3pm unless we schedule a meeting then you cannot leave until 430" rule.  I like delving into a subject completely when teaching and not having to hold everything back until it's just a teaspoon full of easily regurgitated trivia facts.  I also like the idea of advancing a field through research and contributing to a better life for people. 

I thought you lived in Houston?

I live north of Houston.

And you can read into my post anything you like. But all of those things apply to me. And I'm happy. So shudder about corporate life all you like. But it works for most of us.  And if that's how you feel, then we are glad you aren't sharing an office with us.
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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2014, 09:56:39 PM »
So you both have totally different situations where one can thrive under good circumstances while the other is virtually stagnant with little hope to progress.
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Re: My life in the corporate world.
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2014, 10:41:13 PM »
It must be so nice to be so casual about life, but I couldn't stand to have your lifestyle either.  I like paying my own way, using my actually useful degree to earn a good living, being valued for my skills and abilities  and helping my company grow and be profitable.  I like being able to take nice vacations and provide my kids with a good life in a nice house. We have no debt beyond our affordable mortgage, and are saving for retirement so one day I will be able to afford not having to do a damn thing while still living a good lifestyle.  By any measure, I am successful and I can take complete credit for that, because I work my ass off - and I'm glad I do. Work my ass off now to enjoy my life on my terms later.  Obviously being successful means different things to different people, but don't knock it until you try it.

And don't forget, without a private sector there is no public sector.

Agree with all that you said.
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« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2014, 01:51:11 AM »
I live north of Houston.

And you can read into my post anything you like. But all of those things apply to me. And I'm happy. So shudder about corporate life all you like. But it works for most of us.  And if that's how you feel, then we are glad you aren't sharing an office with us.

Could be seen as condescending.  Not a stretch. 

I'm glad I don't share an office with any of you.  I'd never be happy being a wonk.  As long as you work for somebody else, you don't control your own future.  You can be fired. Laid off. Demoted. Left to rot while jobs are given to the boss' girlfriend/son/nephew/sister-in-law/cousin/pal/mother (none of whom are remotely as qualified as you may be). 

No matter what any boss tells you (myself included) there comes a point where an employee is just a number.  Profits down?  Pick a number, somebody's got to go.  Business getting bought out?  Pick a handful of numbers, boss said let 'em go!  Company gets sued?  See ya!  Say the wrong thing to the wrong person at the wrong time?  Get out!!

True stories from my once upon a time corporate life:

1)  Attractive girl in the office is getting a boob job.  She tells everybody.  At one point she simul-humps my doorframe as she tells me she's going up to a full D.  She's got a calendar on her cubicle marking down the days.  She gets the boob job, is out for two weeks and comes back to the office.  First day back she's wearing a shirt cut down to there and a skimpy sweater that didn't have a button until well past her midriff.  They're sticking out there like lighthouse beacons.  Married guy whose wife just had a baby passes her in the hall and says "nice.  your surgeon did a great job."  Just a random comment to somebody who loudly publicized her impending expansion.  She sued for sexual harassment. He was fired. 

2) Company hires a consulting firm. It's the first ever job for the firm which just happens to be headed up by the nephew of the boss' wife.  They attack the IT department first.  None of them have any IT experience whatsoever.  Don't even know what to ask.  It's like a bad scene out of Office Space.  "What would you say you do here?"  After a six-week evaluation they make a recommendation to cut the department by 60%.   Their plan eliminates everyone who actually does any work and retains "analysts" and "project managers."  Essentially they leave a staff in place to manage work that cannot be accomplished because there is no one who can do it.  Word leaks out and the suits organize a Friday afternoon catfish dinner to reassure everyone that there will be no changes, everyone is safe.  Sighs of relief all around.  On Monday I'm in the CFO's office looking at a chart on the wall with every employee's name.  Me, the lead DBA, and a couple of other people are presented with the very plan we had been told on Friday had been scrapped.  We were told if we didn't like the plan the consultants had devised, come up with one of our own to cut 60% out.  Certain people were "protected" and couldn't be touched regardless of their complete lack of contribution.  When one of the people in the meeting had to give up his secretary, he retaliated by insisting that one of my people be fired. Didn't matter which one, just pick one.  We essentially played cards with people's lives.  The following Friday, during the annual company picnic, those we selected for ouster were essentially given a severance folder with their potato salad.  (In truth, they simply called everyone into a common area and if you were directed to the left, you were safe and kept your job.  If you went right you were handed your walking papers).  People had ridden to the event together and had to depart together with some still employed and others no longer on the staff. It was awkward.  Those of us on the inside were taken to another area of the park for horse dorves and cocktails while the massacre took place. So we didn't have to see it. 

3) Bonus:  At great expense and effort the company implements a tracking system to monitor where the employees are going online.  The program is first implemented only on staff at a certain level or below.  Bosses are exempt.   Uh oh!  A guy whose name you'd recognize is straight up busted for perusing some pretty kinky stuff in his office. Multiple paid sites.  Fired to great fanfare.  Two weeks later, a lower level employee inadvertently turned off the blocking mechanism and exposed the activity of the bosses to the tracking system.  One VP was spending more than 60% of his time downloading stuff from sites that featured farm animals.  The tracking report was destroyed, the tracking program was abolished and the lower level employee was transferred to an even lower paying job.  He quit.
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Re: My life in the corporate world.
« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2014, 07:35:59 PM »
I masturbate a lot.  Some days it is hard to walk. 
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Re: My life in the corporate world.
« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2014, 09:04:27 PM »
Could be seen as condescending.  Not a stretch. 



pfffft...

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Re: My life in the corporate world.
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2014, 09:34:16 AM »
Could be seen as condescending.  Not a stretch. 

I'm glad I don't share an office with any of you.  I'd never be happy being a wonk.  As long as you work for somebody else, you don't control your own future.  You can be fired. Laid off. Demoted. Left to rot while jobs are given to the boss' girlfriend/son/nephew/sister-in-law/cousin/pal/mother (none of whom are remotely as qualified as you may be). 

No matter what any boss tells you (myself included) there comes a point where an employee is just a number.  Profits down?  Pick a number, somebody's got to go.  Business getting bought out?  Pick a handful of numbers, boss said let 'em go!  Company gets sued?  See ya!  Say the wrong thing to the wrong person at the wrong time?  Get out!!

True stories from my once upon a time corporate life:

1)  Attractive girl in the office is getting a boob job.  She tells everybody.  At one point she simul-humps my doorframe as she tells me she's going up to a full D.  She's got a calendar on her cubicle marking down the days.  She gets the boob job, is out for two weeks and comes back to the office.  First day back she's wearing a shirt cut down to there and a skimpy sweater that didn't have a button until well past her midriff.  They're sticking out there like lighthouse beacons.  Married guy whose wife just had a baby passes her in the hall and says "nice.  your surgeon did a great job."  Just a random comment to somebody who loudly publicized her impending expansion.  She sued for sexual harassment. He was fired. 

2) Company hires a consulting firm. It's the first ever job for the firm which just happens to be headed up by the nephew of the boss' wife.  They attack the IT department first.  None of them have any IT experience whatsoever.  Don't even know what to ask.  It's like a bad scene out of Office Space.  "What would you say you do here?"  After a six-week evaluation they make a recommendation to cut the department by 60%.   Their plan eliminates everyone who actually does any work and retains "analysts" and "project managers."  Essentially they leave a staff in place to manage work that cannot be accomplished because there is no one who can do it.  Word leaks out and the suits organize a Friday afternoon catfish dinner to reassure everyone that there will be no changes, everyone is safe.  Sighs of relief all around.  On Monday I'm in the CFO's office looking at a chart on the wall with every employee's name.  Me, the lead DBA, and a couple of other people are presented with the very plan we had been told on Friday had been scrapped.  We were told if we didn't like the plan the consultants had devised, come up with one of our own to cut 60% out.  Certain people were "protected" and couldn't be touched regardless of their complete lack of contribution.  When one of the people in the meeting had to give up his secretary, he retaliated by insisting that one of my people be fired. Didn't matter which one, just pick one.  We essentially played cards with people's lives.  The following Friday, during the annual company picnic, those we selected for ouster were essentially given a severance folder with their potato salad.  (In truth, they simply called everyone into a common area and if you were directed to the left, you were safe and kept your job.  If you went right you were handed your walking papers).  People had ridden to the event together and had to depart together with some still employed and others no longer on the staff. It was awkward.  Those of us on the inside were taken to another area of the park for horse dorves and cocktails while the massacre took place. So we didn't have to see it. 

3) Bonus:  At great expense and effort the company implements a tracking system to monitor where the employees are going online.  The program is first implemented only on staff at a certain level or below.  Bosses are exempt.   Uh oh!  A guy whose name you'd recognize is straight up busted for perusing some pretty kinky stuff in his office. Multiple paid sites.  Fired to great fanfare.  Two weeks later, a lower level employee inadvertently turned off the blocking mechanism and exposed the activity of the bosses to the tracking system.  One VP was spending more than 60% of his time downloading stuff from sites that featured farm animals.  The tracking report was destroyed, the tracking program was abolished and the lower level employee was transferred to an even lower paying job.  He quit.

Everyone works for someone else. Just in different ways.
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« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2014, 09:58:02 AM »
So I was sitting in my cubicle today, and I realized, ever since I started working, every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life.
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« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2014, 09:58:56 AM »

pfffft...

She didn't mention anything about her house smelling of rich mahogany.
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« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2014, 09:59:57 AM »
So I was sitting in my cubicle today, and I realized, ever since I started working, every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life.

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« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2014, 10:15:58 AM »
Meh, it could be worse.  You could be in the boat that I am in.  They could come in and tell you that the funding you had secured through 2017 is now being taken away and you are out the door in Feb.  Silver lining is that I have 8 months to find another job.  Not so silver lining is that there are not too many Linux admin jobs opening up in this town. 
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Re: My life in the corporate world.
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2014, 10:51:05 AM »
It is interesting to read of the varying degrees of self-perceived success on here.  I have obviously been extremely successful in various career and business endeavors. Corporate structure, entrepreneurial, whatever. It just comes natural to me.

One of the first things that I tell people when I do career coaching is that they shouldn't try to be me. Money, power and influence are not for everyone.

Realistically, most of you do not have the intellect or looks to make it as far as I have. I still think that you should try to become the best that YOU can.

Although I don't know most of you personally, and do not care to, I can tell that some of you have the potential to make it to a low to mid level supervisory position. Maybe even get a company Taurus. My advice is to not set your goals too high. That way, you won't be disappointed when you reach as high as you are realistically capable of achieving. Which, I can tell you, is not very damn high.

There are innate traits in winners that one can immolate that can help. I would encourage those of you who are striving to improve yourself, to look to me and copy some of these traits. Obviously, you won't be able to replicate them but you may be able to better yourself to some degree. I would be glad to help if I had the time but I stay pretty busy. Good luck with your career. I have to get back to work. Hard work, work. Hard, work, work. I like to sing the Gatorade commercial as I work and it helps me stay focused.
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« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2014, 11:12:20 AM »
So I was sitting in my cubicle today, and I realized, ever since I started working, every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life.

Maybe you should start selling magazines door to door?
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« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2014, 11:21:40 AM »
Maybe you should start selling magazines door to door?
What would you do with 1 million dollars?
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Re: My life in the corporate world.
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2014, 11:22:42 AM »
So I was sitting in my cubicle today, and I realized, ever since I started working, every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life.
We need to talk about your TPS reports.
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« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2014, 11:44:54 AM »
Maybe you should start selling magazines door to door?

Good evening Sir, my name is Steve. I come from a rough area. I used to be addicted to crack but now I am off it and trying to stay clean.
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