Missouri DE Michael Sam Announces He is Gay

[GH2001]

If you are gonna get all Biblically technical on us, that would have been a Saturday back then. J/S

Correct.

Since the religious aspect got brought up....

Look on a calendar and tell me what is listed as the 7th day? It (sabbath observance) was changed by Constantine around the 4th century. The word literally means 7th day in genesis or Saturday as we know it today.

There was also a very harsh punishment for not observing the sabbath properly (7th day of the week - Saturday, sundown to sundown) - death. See Exodus 31:15.

So essentially most Christians currently do something now (breaking sabbath) that was punishable by the same fate as those who wanted to be hedonistic (Sodom and Gomorrah, gays, etc).

Just something to think about...you know, technically speaking.

Discuss amongst ya selves. I'm gettin so verklempt.

[AWK]

[Kaos]

Y'all are nuts

[Token]

Y'all are nuts

Just don't put us in your mouth, or you can't go to Heaven.

[Snaggletiger]

Just don't put us in your mouth, or you can't go to Heaven.

Only if you do it by choice. 

[Godfather]

This isn't about sex, Kaos, it's about trust!

[Saniflush]

This isn't about sex, Kaos, it's about trust!

Let me explain to you the kind of man Kaos is. He's a man who knows that when you put another man's cock in your mouth, you make a pact. A bond that cannot be broken. He's a man so dedicated that he will get down on his knees and put that cock right in his mouth.

[noxin]

[Ogre]

Now having said that, my personal view is that there is a big difference in someone who truly is emotionally, physically and sexually attracted to the same sex and someone who decides to "experiment" in bisexuality.  That is a choice.  Is it right or wrong?  Don't know and don't care.  Just pointing out that someone who is secure in knowing who they are and decides to tryout for the other team is making a choice.  It's not a choice for someone who has lived their entire life knowing they were attracted to the same sex in the exact same way I am attracted to a woman.  I don't need science to prove anything to me with regard to that and I don't need anyone interpreting the Bible for me to tell me someone is going to hell, especially when they faced the same punishment for working on Sunday as they did for screwing farm animals.       

Sooooo......you didn't like it?  That's not the word going around the Kiwani's Park. 

[Pell City Tiger]

I am having a difficult time understanding how and when all of you started liking to suck rooster. I mean, I don't doubt it. I could tell this place had its fair share of the gays but didn't know it was this rampant.

No shit! I'm going to cut back on my boozing at the X-gates from here on out.

[Pell City Tiger]

Classic!

[dallaswareagle]

No shit! I'm going to cut back on my boozing at the X-gates from here on out.

That means you don't make this list anymore. 

[Yoda]

I am trying my hardest to stay on point and not delve off into a macro-evolution vs creationism debate, so I'll leave that alone for now.

Yoda's old college roommate and best friend is gay.  What they did behind closed doors is not for me to speculate.  However, as their next-door neighbor I was there when he came out of the closet in 2002.  I spent a lot of time with him picking his brain on when he knew he was gay and all that came along with his decision to finally give in.

Prior to coming out he'd had a girlfriend for 4 years.  Granted, she was crazy as hell so if anything she probably helped prod him the other direction.  But he told me that he knew he was different in elementary school.  He knew he was attracted to boys at an early age and it wasn't something he wanted.  He tried to change himself.  It's not something he wanted for himself.  The guilt and shame he felt because of this is unimaginable.  But the way you treat someone who is overcome with guilt and shame is not by putting more guilt and shame on them. 

I've read the Bible a few times now, and I don't think Jesus would be picketing a gay pride parade.  That's what the Pharisees would do.  From a Christian perspective (and we fail miserably as a group at this) we are to love and serve our friends in the gay community.  They are sinners.  That puts them on even ground with you and me.  Romans 3:23 says ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.  The issue with many Christians is that they dislike the sin of homosexuality more than they dislike their own sin.  That's not to say that they shouldn't ultimately be called to repentance.  Eventually it becomes a matter of allegiance.  Am I going to be allegiant to God or allegiant to my sin?  But someone won't be open to a true relationship with their Creator if all those who profess him as Lord heap nothing but guilt, shame and scorn on them.  I need grace, just like they do.  And the great news is that grace is provided if it's sought.

To clarify Ogre is the only one that slept in the same bed as gay roommate. 

To the point, God creates all of us in my opinion.  He creates killers, drug dealers, rapists, straight people and good people.  It will never be explained why people are who they are.  My parents raised me with good ethics and morals I try to make the best decisions I can. I don't always make the right ones.  I don't believe that all gays choose to be gay although done probably do.

Does it really fucking matter.  Do all murders choose to kill?  Are some born with an evil spirit that drives them?  Whatever the answer we still have to live amount those people.  We may not like it and one day may have to make a decision or stance on it.  But what is the big deal about a fucking football player announcing he us gay?  There are gay people everywhere. 

Whether it's a choice or not ( I don't believe it is choice for most) how does it effect us straight folks?  Not getting into the politics behind it, that is a different argument.

[Vandy Vol]

[WiregrassTiger]

To clarify Ogre is the only one that slept in the same bed as gay roommate. 

To the point, God creates all of us in my opinion.  He creates killers, drug dealers, rapists, straight people and good people.  It will never be explained why people are who they are.  My parents raised me with good ethics and morals I try to make the best decisions I can. I don't always make the right ones.  I don't believe that all gays choose to be gay although done probably do.

Does it really fudgeing matter.  Do all murders choose to kill?  Are some born with an evil spirit that drives them?  Whatever the answer we still have to live amount those people.  We may not like it and one day may have to make a decision or stance on it.  But what is the big deal about a fudgeing football player announcing he us gay?  There are gay people everywhere. 

Whether it's a choice or not ( I don't believe it is choice for most) how does it effect us straight folks?  Not getting into the politics behind it, that is a different argument.

I didn't get past the part about Ogre sleeping with your gay roommate. I really don't need to know anymore than that.

[The Prowler]

I didn't read everyone's thoughts on the matter, but IMO...he sure does love running, and wearing tight shorts...

[WiregrassTiger]

I didn't read everyone's thoughts on the matter, but IMO...he sure does love running, and wearing tight shorts...

He looks good in this design. I wish I could wear something like this but I have no idea what I would do with my dick.

[Saniflush]

He looks good in this design. I wish I could wear something like this but I have no idea what I would do with my dick.

I would assume what you normally do, tuck it.

[Snaggletiger]

He looks good in this design. I wish I could wear something like this but I have no idea what I would do with my dick.

Put it in Michael's butt?

[Vandy Vol]

Put it in Michael's butt?

What what?