15 Year Old Hangs Himself After Being Arrested for Streaking

[CCTAU]

Violence begets violence, Okonkwo.

Thanks Dr. Spock. That shit has worked out so well since he doctored parenting.

Are you saying the WT is going around raping and killing his fellow man because he got beat with a water hose as a kid?

[Townhallsavoy]

Thanks Dr. Spock. That shit has worked out so well since he doctored parenting.

Are you saying the WT is going around raping and killing his fellow man because he got beat with a water hose as a kid?

I didn't say that at all. 

But he said getting beat with a water hose (I assume a euphemistic expression) was what straightened him out and maybe it would be effective at straightening this next kid out.  The cycle will continue for generations, and statistics and research shows that violent means of punishment from a guardian towards a child are not the most effective means of discipline.  In fact, research points to it being detrimental to a child's development rather than beneficial. 

[WiregrassTiger]

Violence begets violence, Okonkwo.

I liked John Lennon's wife too but she never told my dad this before he beat my ass with a water hose. I do not think he would have cared.

[Snaggletiger]

If I screwed up, my parents took a belt to my ass.  (And back of my legs.  Damn, that hurt worse) From that point forward, I knew not to do the particular thing that prompted said ass beating.  Research says that in my case, it worked.

[CCTAU]

I didn't say that at all. 

But he said getting beat with a water hose (I assume a euphemistic expression) was what straightened him out and maybe it would be effective at straightening this next kid out.  The cycle will continue for generations, and statistics and research shows that violent means of punishment from a guardian towards a child are not the most effective means of discipline.  In fact, research points to it being detrimental to a child's development rather than beneficial.

What research and by whom. You do know there are millions of successful people in this world who got there ass beat as a child. So one can look at the real world statistics and see that many more "little shits" have come along AFTER SPOCK, than were there before. Sometimes perceived education stands in the way of common sense!

[Townhallsavoy]

What research and by whom. You do know there are millions of successful people in this world who got there ass beat as a child. So one can look at the real world statistics and see that many more "little shits" have come along AFTER SPOCK, than were there before. Sometimes perceived education stands in the way of common sense!

Define successful.  Successfully makes a decent living?  Is that all that matters in raising a human being? 

It seems like the generation before me and my parents' generation are full of more little shits.  Hence the leadership and direction of the county over the past twenty years. 

Here's one guy's research:

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/cp.htm

Plenty of papers to peruse there.  There are lots more.  Psychology and sociology both point to corporal punishment being a detriment to a child's upbringing. 

[WiregrassTiger]

If I screwed up, my parents took a belt to my ass.  (And back of my legs.  Damn, that hurt worse) From that point forward, I knew not to do the particular thing that prompted said ass beating.  Research says that in my case, it worked.

Well, you actually don't help my arguement. But no one can pinpoint why or how you wound up like this.

But, most of the people that I know that got their ass beat in situations in which they really needed it, turned out o.k. I don't know anything about the research and I'm sure that one man's warranted ass whooping is another man's definition of abuse, but I believe the result can speak for itself in some instances.

A strong "talking to" would not have done much in my adolescent years.

[Ogre]

Plenty of papers to peruse there.  There are lots more.  Psychology and sociology both point to corporal punishment being a detriment to a child's upbringing.

This is why we're raising up a nation of sissies. 

[Snaggletiger]

This is why we're raising up a nation of sissies.

This X 1,000

[Saniflush]

Oh and by "hose", I think he means his father's wiener.

[AU_Tiger_2000]

Mine didn't, but it was always cold in the winter and hot in summer and my feet were always killing me.

That's keen

[Kaos]

Used to work with his dad. Haven't talked to him in six years or so. Not gonna call out of the blue and ask that.

[dallaswareagle]

That's keen

Ya, No matter what century I roll keen.  That's my style.

[AUTiger1]

If I screwed up, my parents took a belt to my ass.  (And back of my legs.  Damn, that hurt worse) From that point forward, I knew not to do the particular thing that prompted said ass beating.  Research says that in my case, it worked.

Funny thing........me and my brother both did too and we turned out just fine. 

[GH2001]

Funny thing........me and my brother both did too and we turned out just fine.

Bingo.

Real world results > useless academia/sociology "research".

[Townhallsavoy]

Bingo.

Real world results > useless academia/sociology "research".

Yeah all that scientific bullshit ain't done nuthin for us ever! 

[Token]

Yeah all that scientific bullshit ain't done nuthin for us ever!

The problem with science is, it says whatever you want it to say.  That's what "science" people never see.

[GH2001]

The problem with science is, it says whatever you want it to say.  That's what "science" people never see.

Absolute science is: water is made of hydrogen and oxygen.

Trying to hypothesize about a correlation between kids getting belt whippings and going postal is not science.

There have been more kids go postal in some way during the pacifist method years than any other. Kids run the asylum now.

[Vandy Vol]

Kids run the asylum now.

So, you're saying this is the place I need to go for crazy child sex?

[AU_Tiger_2000]

Yeah all that scientific bullshoot ain't done nuthin for us ever!

When I had to take psych at Auburn the prof was all in favor of corporal punishment.  To paraphrase: it's immediate and it allows a child to grasp the cause and effect reactions of disobedience or dangerous behavior.