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Re: That shoot will NOT buff out
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2013, 12:39:05 PM »
Dumbest comparison I've ever seen. Borderline offensive. Football cheatin' and civil rights reform are not in the same ballpark. Not even close.
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Re: That shoot will NOT buff out
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2013, 12:44:53 PM »
No, no.  He's saying MLK was cheatin' and Auburn's civil rights have been violated.

What he said.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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Re: That shoot will NOT buff out
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2013, 12:45:15 PM »
You are a bammer.

Whatever. No way you can justify either leap of logic in your post or his.
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Re: That shoot will NOT buff out
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2013, 12:46:17 PM »
No, no.  He's saying MLK was cheatin' and Auburn's civil rights have been violated.

Now this was  *snicker* worthy.
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Re: That shoot will NOT buff out
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2013, 01:10:35 PM »
Whatever. No way you can justify either leap of logic in your post or his.

Don't even start, you can't question Kaos on his similes, hyperboles, or metaphors.  He's a f'n writer man who knows more than all of us  about everything.
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Re: That shoot will NOT buff out
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2013, 01:12:28 PM »
Don't even start, you can't question Kaos on his similes, hyperboles, or metaphors.  He's a f'n writer man who knows more than all of us  about everything.

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Re: That shoot will NOT buff out
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2013, 01:18:34 PM »
I wouldn't hold your breath. As that article clearly illustrates, they're protecting their sacred cow.

That in and of itself is entirely the problem worthy of blowback.
Who's giving the blowback? When and where?
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« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2013, 01:20:07 PM »
Who's giving the blowback? When and where?

Blow is just an expression...got gotsa suck that mutha.
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"Hey my friends are the ones that wanted to eat at that shitty hole in the wall that only served bread and wine.  What kind of brick and mud business model is that.  Stick to the cart if that's all you're going to serve.  Then that dude came in with like 12 other people, and some of them weren't even wearing shoes, and the restaurant sat them right across from us. It was gross, and they were all stinky and dirty.  Then dude starts talking about eating his body and drinking his blood...I almost lost it.  That's the last supper I'll ever have there, and I hope he dies a horrible death."

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Re: That shoot will NOT buff out
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2013, 01:31:51 PM »
Blow is just an expression...got gotsa suck that mutha.

It's ok to use teeth, but you don't want to be a biter.
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Re: That shoot will NOT buff out
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2013, 01:42:23 PM »
Dumbest comparison I've ever seen. Borderline offensive. Football cheatin' and civil rights reform are not in the same ballpark. Not even close.

At least it was borderline. If was going for full on offensive I'd have used pictures of !#@$( from the (!@#$%!@#$%. 
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Re: That shoot will NOT buff out
« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2013, 02:10:31 PM »
At least it was borderline. If was going for full on offensive I'd have used pictures of !#@$( from the (!@#$%!@#$%.
How dare you compare this to Q-Bert.
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Re: That shit will NOT buff out
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2013, 02:47:34 PM »
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http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/10/9/4819820/alabama-ncaa-nick-saban-mark-emmert
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The NCAA's many problems: Perception clouds Alabama issue

By Adam Jacobi @Adam_Jacobi on Oct 9 2013, 11:22a 12
Kevin C. Cox

The NCAA has an Alabama problem. Or it's really a Nick Saban problem. Or it's really a perception problem. Or it's really all, some, or none of those. Sound confusing? It is.

Let's back up: the NCAA probably has to do something about former Alabama tackle (and current chokeslam supermonster) D.J. Fluker and others allegedly accepting substantial amounts of money from agents while still in college. You can't not investigate that, after all.

What involvement Alabama should have? Well, we'll see; that's what the investigation's for, after all. But still—that's Alabama, the undisputed top program in the nation, embroiled in a potentially major improper benefits scandal.

There's your Alabama problem.

Complicating things substantially is Nick Saban's connection to multiple people in charge at the NCAA. As USA Today reports, Saban's boss at LSU was one Mark Emmert, now the president of the NCAA, and lest anybody think that relationship was anything but chummy, check out Saban's quote from his LSU days:

"Chancellor Emmert is absolutely the best boss I've ever had," Saban said at LSU in 2004. "He's the most significant reason I was interested in the job. Never once has he disappointed me."

There's your Nick Saban problem.

The connections don't end there, as Derrick Crawford, the director of enforcement at the NCAA is himself an Alabama graduate and in March spoke of perceiving an NCAA bias against his school. Crawford said that there isn't one, and that the NCAA doesn't target schools, but of course the director of enforcement says that, you know?

So while Crawford will almost certainly recuse himself from the process of determining what, if any, punishments the NCAA will mete out to Alabama, he can still act as a liaison to help Alabama stay compliant elsewhere and thus avoid further punishment, much as former head of committee on infractions head Gene Marsh (himself an Alabama faculty member) helped the Tide a decade ago when it faced serious sanctions. This, too, from USA Today:

    In the end, the NCAA hit Alabama with penalties that included a two-year postseason ban, five years probation and the loss of 21 scholarships. Yet Tom Yeager, then-chairman of the infractions committee, declared that it could have been worse if not for Marsh and Alabama's compliance director, Marie Robbins.

    The efforts of Marsh and Robbins "not only saved the university from the death penalty but also more serious sanctions that would have been imposed," Yeager said then.


In other words, the NCAA is coming right out and saying that having someone on the inside can help soften the blow. And once again Alabama's got someone.

Compounding matters is that the NCAA infractions committee quite famously deliberates privately on matters of sanctions and doesn't follow strict, rigid guidelines for the punishments it hands out. There's no example of X infraction getting you Y sanction, for example. The committee issues lengthy reports along with its sanctions, but again the dialogue with the public is pretty much one-sided.

Thus, it's very, very difficult for fans to look at the NCAA's process for sanctions and see any rhyme or reason to the punishments handed out, and in the absence of that "A to B to C" road map, fans necessarily fill in the dots their own way, whether it's fair or not, and that can erode public trust in the NCAA.

There's your perception problem.

And somewhere in this morass, the actual question of what to do about D.J. Fluker receiving improper benefits twists in the gales of hot air about Alabama and the NCAA and public opinion.
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Re: That shit will NOT buff out
« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2013, 02:51:55 PM »
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"Chancellor Emmert is absolutely the best boss I've ever had," Saban said at LSU in 2004. "He's the most significant reason I was interested in the job. Never once has he disappointed me."

Until now.
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Re: That shoot will NOT buff out
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2013, 04:20:25 PM »
No, no.  He's saying MLK was cheatin' and Auburn's civil rights have been violated.

I thought he was suggesting that someone with the NTYF was going to catch a 30.06 round in the face.
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Re: That shoot will NOT buff out
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2013, 04:25:29 PM »
I thought he was suggesting that someone with the NTYF was going to catch a 30.06 round in the face.

woah woah woah...are you threatening someone sir?
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Re: That shit will NOT buff out
« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2013, 07:20:12 PM »
Not sure if posted yet, but anywho:  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1804256-alabamas-in-a-tough-spot-with-nick-sabans-relationship-with-mark-emmert

I'm going to need a copy/paste...I refuse to give that shit hole my traffic.
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« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2013, 07:32:44 PM »
I'm going to need a copy/paste...I refuse to give that shoot hole my traffic.

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Alabama's in a Tricky Spot with Nick Saban's Relationship with Mark Emmert
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Barrett Sallee
(SEC Football Lead Writer) on October 9, 2013

The NCAA is squarely in the crosshairs of the public after its seemingly haphazard enforcement of its rules, the inability or refusal to properly compensate players and an archaic and lengthy rulebook.

That may come to a head soon, if the NCAA does dig deeper into the University of Alabama. As Brent Schrotenboer of USA Today points out, Alabama head coach Nick Saban has a longtime relationship with NCAA president Mark Emmert; and Alabama has two potential extra benefits cases on its hands.

In September, Yahoo! Sports revealed that four former and one current SEC player received extra benefits including cash from financial advisers and agents, funneled through former Crimson Tide defensive lineman Luther Davis.

One of those players was former Alabama All-American offensive tackle D.J. Fluker, who played for the Tide from 2009 to 2012. One of those agents, according to Yahoo! Sports, is Alabama alum John Phillips.


Just last week, star safety HaHa Clinton-Dix was suspended indefinitely from the program for taking a loan from assistant strength and conditioning coach Corey Harris, according to a report from the Tuscaloosa News. Clinton-Dix received the loan after his 2012 Dodge Charger was broken into and an iPad, cash, speakers and various items of clothing were stolen.

While the Clinton-Dix suspension stems from an internal investigation and there is nothing official from the NCAA's end yet, essentially having a runner on staff will certainly draw its attention.

As Schrotenboer points out, that will test personal relationships that date back more than a decade.

NCAA president Mark Emmert and Alabama head coach Nick Saban have a long relationship, dating back to 2001, when Emmert—then the chancellor of LSU—hired Saban away from Michigan State to be the head coach of the Tigers.


Saban commented on his relationship with Emmert in 2004, according to Schrotenboer:

    "Chancellor Emmert is absolutely the best boss I've ever had. He's the most significant reason I was interested in the job. Never once has he disappointed me."

That's not exactly breaking news. Saban's relationship with Emmert is well-chronicled.


However, with Alabama now the subject of two rather important extra benefits cases—one of which includes a player, Fluker, who could be ruled ineligible during the 2012 national title season—there's really nowhere for the program to hide if Saban's relationship with Emmert remains at the forefront of the public eye.

Schrotenboer points out that, by rule, NCAA officials with connections to schools or individuals under investigation are recused from the process to prevent bias.

At least, in theory.

However, the high-profile nature of Alabama, the recent success on the game's biggest stages and the focus on the NCAA's rather subjective enforcement of its rules makes this a perfect storm for the NCAA to play things above board and earn back some trust from the public.

That could come at the expense of Alabama.

Cooperation is always key for the NCAA, and Alabama certainly appears—as evidenced by the Clinton-Dix suspension—to be taking a proactive stance.

That will help.

However, if they dig deeper, will Alabama's cooperation or public perception matter more to the NCAA?

Schrotenboer's story on the relationship between Saban and Emmert only brings the relationship back to the forefront, which will put more pressure on the NCAA to take steps to prevent any perception of bias during a critical time of its existence.

Sure, the relationship between Saban and Emmert could protect Alabama—and probably would have in year's past.

But it's a different time now.

The NCAA is searching to maintain relevancy in a time in which its relevancy is eroding. One way to do so would to ensure that all investigations are based solely on facts, wherever they lead. Especially a potential investigation involving the reigning champs. 

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Re: That shit will NOT buff out
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2013, 07:56:12 PM »
Thank you.

What is this shit about bama being "proactive" in the Dix case?  They were on fucking notice the very moment a member of the coaching staff gave money to a player.  Any lapse of time between that transfer, whether it was a second or a year, negates any claim of "proactive" action on their part.  They are imputed knowledge of the violation by virtue of the staff member's involvement.
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Re: That shit will NOT buff out
« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2013, 10:12:49 PM »
Thank you.

What is this shit about bama being "proactive" in the Dix case?  They were on fucking notice the very moment a member of the coaching staff gave money to a player.  Any lapse of time between that transfer, whether it was a second or a year, negates any claim of "proactive" action on their part.  They are imputed knowledge of the violation by virtue of the staff member's involvement.

Listen to this man.  I hear he's good with the bar. 
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