New Era

[GH2001]

Also, while not likely, it's POSSIBLE that he got unfucked by this current staff. Possible.

That's what I hope for. I know we rag the guy a lot but he was a highly recruited LB out of hs. He didn't all of a sudden lose the talent that made him great in high school. I think the last staff was THAT bad its last two years. Lot of these kids are fucked up in the head and mentally weak. He seems like a good kid and I'm def not going to root for him to fail. If he's had minimal improvement from last year and is still named a starter, then that should tell us we got bigger issues defense wise than just him. I lean to the side that jake and kiehl may be screwed up beyond repair. And by no fault of their own.

[JR4AU]

Also, while not likely, it's POSSIBLE that he got unfucked by this current staff. Possible.

Yes, but it's also possible probable the rest of the guys at that position on defense suck ass equally bad. 

[JR4AU]

That's what I hope for. I know we rag the guy a lot but he was a highly recruited LB out of hs. He didn't all of a sudden lose the talent that made him great in high school. I think the last staff was THAT bad its last two years. Lot of these kids are fucked up in the head and mentally weak. He seems like a good kid and I'm def not going to root for him to fail. If he's had minimal improvement from last year and is still named a starter, then that should tell us we got bigger issues defense wise than just him. I lean to the side that jake and kiehl may be screwed up beyond repair. And by no fault of their own.

I tried to make the same failing arguments going in to last season about Jake and Roof's defense. 

[DnATL]

At around 3:45, he says Jake's working with the ones that won't be playing much this season. 

He says Jake's working with the ones. 

Jake's working with the ones.

Jake's with the ones.

Jake's the ones.

Jake's ones.

Jake Holland.

Fixt your transcription............

[jmar]

He has to practice very well, far better than all the others but just comes up missing when the whistle blows. I get it that coaches want to reward effort and attitude, I really do.
I've seen Jake drop into coverage and hold his own for the most part and I think that is his strongsuit but he has been a liability otherwise. Just have to believe Johnson will have his best on the field. 

 

[Godfather]

Listen...Jake an Auburn man...no doubt...respect the hell out of him.  I don't think however he is an SEC caliber starting LB, I do think he would be fine as a rotational player.

I will say this in Jakes defense, with the non push our DL got last year a lot of the O-Line was halfway down field and it is hard for any 250 lb linebacker to fight off a 325lb OL.

[Townhallsavoy]

I will say this in Jakes defense, with the non push our DL got last year a lot of the O-Line was halfway down field and it is hard for any 250 lb linebacker to fight off a 325lb OL.

That doesn't defend Jake at all.  Sure, our DL got their shit kicked in, but there were plenty of plays where Jake had a free shot at a white pasty quarterback and feather clubbed him with his forearms.  Plenty of plays where Jake had a guy in his grasp and let go.  Plenty of plays where Jake ran the opposite direction of the play.  Plenty of plays where Jake is being mauled by someone fat and not linebacker baller strong.

Jake sucked last year and he sucked the year before.  I sincerely hope this new staff has magic pixie dust that can turn the curly haired boy into a scary Takeo Spikes linebacker, but I have my doubts.  I'm much more concerned with the idea that our backups - our highly touted recruits - cannot easily put this guy on the bench. 

Auburn heart or not, I have never - even when watching Vanderbilt at their worst - seen an SEC linebacker make the Christmas Party Blooper Tape as much as Jake Holland.  He's as bad at linebacker as Chyelhlhe Frazier is at quarterback.  It's just easier to zone in on Frazier being a worthless stump of carbon than Holland each play.

[The Prowler]

That doesn't defend Jake at all.  Sure, our DL got their shit kicked in, but there were plenty of plays where Jake had a free shot at a white pasty quarterback and feather clubbed him with his forearms.  Plenty of plays where Jake had a guy in his grasp and let go.  Plenty of plays where Jake ran the opposite direction of the play.  Plenty of plays where Jake is being mauled by someone fat and not linebacker baller strong.

Jake sucked last year and he sucked the year before.  I sincerely hope this new staff has magic pixie dust that can turn the curly haired boy into a scary Takeo Spikes linebacker, but I have my doubts.  I'm much more concerned with the idea that our backups - our highly touted recruits - cannot easily put this guy on the bench. 

Auburn heart or not, I have never - even when watching Vanderbilt at their worst - seen an SEC linebacker make the Christmas Party Blooper Tape as much as Jake Holland.  He's as bad at linebacker as Chyelhlhe Frazier is at quarterback.  It's just easier to zone in on Frazier being a worthless stump of carbon than Holland each play.

That worthless stump of carbon might be the starting QB for the start of the season...and I believe we'll see a slightly different Frazier than what we saw last year. I've said it before and I'll say it again Coach Rhett Lashlee, eventhough he was the GA, was a very important part of our Offense in the 2009 & 2010 season.
Also, I wouldn't judge Frazier or Wallace based on their performance from last year.

[Godfather]

Frazier doesn't see the field outside of mop-up duty in the FAU game.

[Godfather]

That doesn't defend Jake at all.  Sure, our DL got their shit kicked in, but there were plenty of plays where Jake had a free shot at a white pasty quarterback and feather clubbed him with his forearms.  Plenty of plays where Jake had a guy in his grasp and let go.  Plenty of plays where Jake ran the opposite direction of the play.  Plenty of plays where Jake is being mauled by someone fat and not linebacker baller strong.

Jake sucked last year and he sucked the year before.  I sincerely hope this new staff has magic pixie dust that can turn the curly haired boy into a scary Takeo Spikes linebacker, but I have my doubts.  I'm much more concerned with the idea that our backups - our highly touted recruits - cannot easily put this guy on the bench. 

Auburn heart or not, I have never - even when watching Vanderbilt at their worst - seen an SEC linebacker make the Christmas Party Blooper Tape as much as Jake Holland.  He's as bad at linebacker as Chyelhlhe Frazier is at quarterback.  It's just easier to zone in on Frazier being a worthless stump of carbon than Holland each play.

Oh I am with you. I still respect him is all I was saying.

[dallaswareagle]

He has to practice very well, far better than all the others but just comes up missing when the whistle blows. I get it that coaches want to reward effort and attitude, I really do.
I've seen Jake drop into coverage and hold his own for the most part and I think that is his strongsuit but he has been a liability otherwise. Just have to believe Johnson will have his best on the field.

Well at least he got one hand on it.

[Snaggletiger]

By the by.  Cameron Artimus-Pyle came into camp with 10 more pounds of muscle.  Listed at 5'10" 216.


This caused a mild tingling sensation in the crotchorial region.

[War Eagle!!!]

That doesn't defend Jake at all.  Sure, our DL got their shit kicked in, but there were plenty of plays where Jake had a free shot at a white pasty quarterback and feather clubbed him with his forearms.  Plenty of plays where Jake had a guy in his grasp and let go.  Plenty of plays where Jake ran the opposite direction of the play.  Plenty of plays where Jake is being mauled by someone fat and not linebacker baller strong.

Jake sucked last year and he sucked the year before.  I sincerely hope this new staff has magic pixie dust that can turn the curly haired boy into a scary Takeo Spikes linebacker, but I have my doubts.  I'm much more concerned with the idea that our backups - our highly touted recruits - cannot easily put this guy on the bench. 

Auburn heart or not, I have never - even when watching Vanderbilt at their worst - seen an SEC linebacker make the Christmas Party Blooper Tape as much as Jake Holland.  He's as bad at linebacker as Chyelhlhe Frazier is at quarterback.  It's just easier to zone in on Frazier being a worthless stump of carbon than Holland each play.

This times 200 infinity million.

[Snaggletiger]

Today is the first scrimmage.  They're supposed to have another one Saturday.  Methinks we'll know who to look for at QB by this time next week, maybe before.  I hope they do pull the trigger (And shoot Kaleel) and name the starter, no matter who it is.  I want as many reps as possible for him between now and WSU.

[Townhallsavoy]

That worthless stump of carbon might be the starting QB for the start of the season...and I believe we'll see a slightly different Frazier than what we saw last year. I've said it before and I'll say it again Coach Rhett Lashlee, eventhough he was the GA, was a very important part of our Offense in the 2009 & 2010 season.
Also, I wouldn't judge Frazier or Wallace based on their performance from last year.

Slightly different Frazier might not start for a middle school team.  And we can do nothing but judge them based on last year.  And Frazier from two years ago. 

They suck.  Plain and simple.  You could see Wallace at least trying to improvise last year.  He showed a lot of heart.  He'll lose with grass in his helmet, blood on his lip, and his fingernails pulled back.

But he'll lose.  We're not wanting to be that kind of program.  We want to be where LSU and Alabama is.  That's why we wanted Tuberville gone.  We want every year to have a quarterback or a middle linebacker or a defensive tackle or a running back or someone to always be there as a potential superstar. 

A lot of these guys are not that.  We have a lot of work to do if Marshall can't win the job, if Frost's athleticism can't get him the starting position, if our freshman studs can't produce.  It will be another long season and we'll have to pray to God that recruits continue to believe in Malzahn's future. 

That's our plate if we end up playing the exact same 3-9, 49-0 scrubs from last year.

[Godfather]

Slightly different Frazier might not start for a middle school team.  And we can do nothing but judge them based on last year.  And Frazier from two years ago. 

They suck.  Plain and simple.  You could see Wallace at least trying to improvise last year.  He showed a lot of heart.  He'll lose with grass in his helmet, blood on his lip, and his fingernails pulled back.

But he'll lose.  We're not wanting to be that kind of program.  We want to be where LSU and Alabama is.  That's why we wanted Tuberville gone.  We want every year to have a quarterback or a middle linebacker or a defensive tackle or a running back or someone to always be there as a potential superstar. 

A lot of these guys are not that.  We have a lot of work to do if Marshall can't win the job, if Frost's athleticism can't get him the starting position, if our freshman studs can't produce.  It will be another long season and we'll have to pray to God that recruits continue to believe in Malzahn's future. 

That's our plate if we end up playing the exact same 3-9, 49-0 scrubs from last year.

So you are on the Godfather bus then?

[dallaswareagle]

Slightly different Frazier might not start for a middle school team.  And we can do nothing but judge them based on last year.  And Frazier from two years ago. 

They suck.  Plain and simple.  You could see Wallace at least trying to improvise last year.  He showed a lot of heart.  He'll lose with grass in his helmet, blood on his lip, and his fingernails pulled back.

But he'll lose.  We're not wanting to be that kind of program.  We want to be where LSU and Alabama is.  That's why we wanted Tuberville gone.  We want every year to have a quarterback or a middle linebacker or a defensive tackle or a running back or someone to always be there as a potential superstar. 

A lot of these guys are not that.  We have a lot of work to do if Marshall can't win the job, if Frost's athleticism can't get him the starting position, if our freshman studs can't produce.  It will be another long season and we'll have to pray to God that recruits continue to believe in Malzahn's future. 

That's our plate if we end up playing the exact same 3-9, 49-0 scrubs from last year.

I would have never thought about hiding it in there.

[Snaggletiger]

I would have never thought about hiding it in there.

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[jmar]

Slightly different Frazier might not start for a middle school team.  And we can do nothing but judge them based on last year.  And Frazier from two years ago. 

They suck.  Plain and simple.  You could see Wallace at least trying to improvise last year.  He showed a lot of heart.  He'll lose with grass in his helmet, blood on his lip, and his fingernails pulled back.

But he'll lose.  We're not wanting to be that kind of program.  We want to be where LSU and Alabama is.  That's why we wanted Tuberville gone.  We want every year to have a quarterback or a middle linebacker or a defensive tackle or a running back or someone to always be there as a potential superstar. 

A lot of these guys are not that.  We have a lot of work to do if Marshall can't win the job, if Frost's athleticism can't get him the starting position, if our freshman studs can't produce.  It will be another long season and we'll have to pray to God that recruits continue to believe in Malzahn's future. 

That's our plate if we end up playing the exact same 3-9, 49-0 scrubs from last year.

We shouldn't be better than 5-7, even with a new staff and all that they bring. The fan in me just expects more to a fault. In truth I still think both Mississippi teams have the upper hand but only hoping our gimicky offense and funky D can mask our defiencies with a couple of freshmen shining and several JUCO additions in the rotation. This does not appear to be a talent laden team overall next to our rivals and really seven wins would impress me after what we had become post 2010.

[The Prowler]

Slightly different Frazier might not start for a middle school team.  And we can do nothing but judge them based on last year.  And Frazier from two years ago. 

They suck.  Plain and simple.  You could see Wallace at least trying to improvise last year.  He showed a lot of heart.  He'll lose with grass in his helmet, blood on his lip, and his fingernails pulled back.

But he'll lose.  We're not wanting to be that kind of program.  We want to be where LSU and Alabama is.  That's why we wanted Tuberville gone.  We want every year to have a quarterback or a middle linebacker or a defensive tackle or a running back or someone to always be there as a potential superstar. 

A lot of these guys are not that.  We have a lot of work to do if Marshall can't win the job, if Frost's athleticism can't get him the starting position, if our freshman studs can't produce.  It will be another long season and we'll have to pray to God that recruits continue to believe in Malzahn's future. 

That's our plate if we end up playing the exact same 3-9, 49-0 scrubs from last year.

So, judge Frazier based on his Freshman season when he attempted around 5 passes for the season and then when he had to learn a system that he'd never played in, unless you count PeeWee Ball (btw, I'm not sure what type of system parkball teams ran in Arkansas)? Okay.
IMO, he became "shell shocked" around mid season, which is around the time he lost all faith in the horrible play from the OL. I'm not saying that he's going to be Chris Todd 2009, but once a QB losses faith in the OL...they begin looking for the blitz, which is exactly what we saw last season in Kheil Frazier.

I love this time of year because the season is a few weeks away from kicking off and I also hate this time of year because just about every single year someone will say, "If so & so starts, at whatever position, then we're going to suck ass and blow dicks...we'll be lucky to win 2-3 games"....eventhough they haven't seen how that certain player or players have progressed, they're going off of what they did last season...eventhough we have a brand new staff, including the strength and conditioning staff, we have a brand new determination, plus the offense that's here has all the pieces that it needs to be successful (because that same offense was here two years ago, the players are still here that fit that offense).

IMO, with Frazier starting 6-7 wins, with Marshall starting 7-8 wins (not counting the bowl game).