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Re: George Wallace's daughter: Dumb
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2013, 09:02:36 PM »
Judas...there is no way to discuss this with you.  Really?

No.  Not when you take two completely different concepts, cut out the entire middle and mash them together as if one is the answer to the other. 

Society.  Is society better off? 

About 5% of the country is on government assistance.  Of that 5% nearly half have been on it at least two years and 20% more than five. 

Lyndon Johnson's idiot ass declared a "war on poverty" in 1964 that dovetailed with the Civil Rights movement. 

In 1964 the "poverty rate" was 18% and steadily declining. 
Introduce government assistance.
Today the "poverty rate" is 16% and steadily climbing.

Obama increased federal welfare spending by 41% since he took office.  To what effect?  More and more people swearing fealty to the government instead of finding the way out. 

I don't believe in forced anything.  I don't believe the government has the right to tell me to whom I can rent my house.  If I elect not to rent it to Muslims, lesbians or vegetarians that should be my prerogative. It's MY house, I bought it. 

If I buy the land to start a golf club and think I can survive economically by limiting membership to Auburn fans then that should be my right.  I shouldn't be forced or shamed into allowing LSU fans to play there if I don't want them.   

Should we go back to segregation?  I don't know.  If you leave people alone and don't force them to do things that's what will naturally occur for the most part.  It's what people choose when given the choice without fear.  People tend go gather on the basis of similar likes and dislikes, similar cultural references, similar religious practices and similar economic standing -- when left to their own devices. 

I don't like artificially jamming round pegs in square holes because the benevolent government thinks its best for me. 

I don't like an entire layer of society feeding from the government teat and being herded along like sheep. At some point, and maybe it won't be in our lifetime somebody like Obama is going to decide that he's too important to follow the two-term rule.  When that happens there will be enough hogs slopping at the government trough that the opposition will be trampled.  And then it will all come crashing down.   

I think this country is going to hell in a hurry and those who are driving that hell-bound train do so on the tracks of class warfare -- which in this country is best identified by race. 
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Re: George Wallace's daughter: Dumb
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2013, 09:03:26 PM »
So what you are saying is that if George Wallace hadn't stood in that doorway, riots and murder would have probably broke out all over UAT's campus and the angry mob might of burnt that shithole to the ground???








































FUCK GEORGE WALLACE!!
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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2013, 09:04:25 PM »
So what you are saying is that if George Wallace hadn't stood in that doorway, riots and murder would have probably broke out all over UAT's campus and the angry mob might of burnt that shoothole to the ground???








































fudge GEORGE WALLACE!!

Point taken.
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Re: George Wallace's daughter: Dumb
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2013, 09:06:42 PM »
I have the solution that everyone can accept:


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Re: George Wallace's daughter: Dumb
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2013, 09:08:37 PM »
Yeah.  After two terms of this.





I have both of these in my personal collection.
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Re: George Wallace's daughter: Dumb
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2013, 09:23:46 PM »


He's not wrong. 
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Re: George Wallace's daughter: Dumb
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2013, 09:36:11 PM »


Good point made that I forgot.  Wallace ran as a moderate in 1958. Endorsed by the NAACP.  Lost to a klansman Patterson. Had to do what he had to do.

How could he govern if he could not get elected?  He followed the will of the people.

95% of what he did was positive. 
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Re: George Wallace's daughter: Dumb
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2013, 09:38:29 PM »


He's not wrong.

I forgot what an eloquent speaker he was.

I wonder how he would fare in today's politics.
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Re: George Wallace's daughter: Dumb
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2013, 10:03:33 PM »
I forgot what an eloquent speaker he was.

I wonder how he would fare in today's politics.

I know nobody here will bother, but the Larry King interview (44 minutes) is really good. 

It shows you how idiotic and stupid Jesse Jackson really is.  And you hear the things Wallace said in 1968 that illustrate what he was really about.

We need a George Wallace today.  One of him and 100000 less Obamas, Jesses, Pelosis and their ilk. 

I can tell you without hesitation or trepidation that if George Wallace rose from the grave today not only would I vote for him for President, but I would dedicate as much of my financial and personal support as I could to do my part to get him elected.   I'd take a two-year leave of absence from my job to work for and with him and consider it an honor.
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Re: George Wallace's daughter: Dumb
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2013, 10:37:42 PM »
I know nobody here will bother, but the Larry King interview (44 minutes) is really good. 

It shows you how idiotic and stupid Jesse Jackson really is.  And you hear the things Wallace said in 1968 that illustrate what he was really about.

We need a George Wallace today.  One of him and 100000 less Obamas, Jesses, Pelosis and their ilk. 

I can tell you without hesitation or trepidation that if George Wallace rose from the grave today not only would I vote for him for President, but I would dedicate as much of my financial and personal support as I could to do my part to get him elected.   I'd take a two-year leave of absence from my job to work for and with him and consider it an honor.
I feel this way too. GW is one of my heroes. Jr. is a great guy too. I believe that the people who call Gov. Wallace a racist do not know the whole story. The loss to Patterson explains a lot of that story. He was a masterful politician. He did what he had to do in order to be elected. He made admitted mistakes and asked for forgiveness. A great leader and a great man.
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Re: George Wallace's daughter: Dumb
« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2013, 10:47:58 PM »
Hell I haven't seen this much George Wallace love since the last Klan rally I attended.  :awesome:
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Re: George Wallace's daughter: Dumb
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2013, 09:44:21 AM »
Judas...there is no way to discuss this with you.  Really?

I hope you will at least be consistent and put Obama, Farakhan, Malcolm X, LBJ and any other person who intended to separate in the same pot as you do Wallace. Ammarite?
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Re: George Wallace's daughter: Dumb
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2013, 10:08:40 AM »
I hope you will at least be consistent and put Obama, Farakhan, Malcolm X, LBJ and any other person who intended to separate in the same pot as you do Wallace. Ammarite?

I'll give you Farrakhan and X...but you'll have to flesh out those others a bit.
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« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2013, 12:22:25 PM »
I'll give you Farrakhan and X...but you'll have to flesh out those others a bit.
I say Obama and LBJ because of affirmative action and wealth redistribution. That's essentially reverse discrimination and I definitely think theres an argument there. But yeah Farakhan and X spent their lives preaching supremacy and separatism.
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Re: George Wallace's daughter: Dumb
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2013, 01:27:49 PM »
I say Obama and LBJ because of affirmative action

If anything, that's the exact opposite of segregation.  It's a program designed to ameliorate the effects of a history of segregationist/discriminatory behavior.

"Wealth Redistribution" you're going to have to expound on further before I can respond.
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« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2013, 02:07:47 PM »
If anything, that's the exact opposite of segregation. It's a program designed to ameliorate the effects of a history of segregationist/discriminatory behavior.

"Wealth Redistribution" you're going to have to expound on further before I can respond.
Sure it is, which created more discrimination in the process of trying to put spilled milk back into the glass.
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Re: George Wallace's daughter: Dumb
« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2013, 02:31:43 PM »
Sure it is, which created more discrimination in the process of trying to put spilled milk back into the glass.

It's a difference in intent.  Pre-AA, the intent was exclusion/cronyism.  Post-AA, the intent is to open up opportunities where previously there were none.

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« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2013, 02:35:36 PM »
It's a difference in intent.  Pre-AA, the intent was exclusion/cronyism.  Post-AA, the intent is to open up opportunities where previously there were none.
I don't dispute the intent. But the reality is that it's simply more discrimination, imo.
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« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2013, 02:40:15 PM »
I don't dispute the intent. But the reality is that it's simply more discrimination, imo.

Sure, but discrimination isn't necessarily a bad thing.  It's a word that comes with a lot of baggage, unfortunately.
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« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2013, 02:48:04 PM »
Sure, but discrimination isn't necessarily a bad thing.  It's a word that comes with a lot of baggage, unfortunately.
Discrimination is a fact of life. And I agree it's not always bad. Discriminating taste is considered a good thing in wine, music, fashion, etc. The term gets a bad rap.

Personally, I think most of us (as in humans) discriminate against classes and races--whether it's intentional or not. Racism is a different animal that gets lumped in with discrimination.
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