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Re: DOJ Seize AP Phone Records
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2013, 12:10:46 PM »
I'm just saying. Targeting political opponants for IRS audits. Monitoring the press's phone conversations in order to be ahead of any critical news stories. That's a way bigger deal.

If I were a far right-winger bent on the destruction of the US President, I would be infinitely more focused on the two scandals that broke yesterday than trying to connect dots on Benghazi.
I am not disagreeing that the IRS audits and AP scandal aren't important. And it has nothing to do with being a right-winger or wishing for the destruction of the president. It has more to do with us maintaining some semblance of a democratic society.

And my reason for thinking Benghazi is a big deal is because lives were lost due to the lack of response when pleas for help were given and the election was hanging in the balance. I believe that the immediate response and the ensuing report were politically motivated. If it were Bush, he would be burning in effigy today. I don't sense the same outrage from the right-wingers you speak of. But, if there are no hearings, I'm fearful it will provoke the right's fringe idiots. Which would only help the socialist's cause.
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Re: DOJ Seize AP Phone Records
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2013, 12:18:25 PM »
"democratic society"

Fuck those two words.

Spirit of 1776!
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Re: DOJ Seize AP Phone Records
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2013, 12:19:39 PM »
I am not disagreeing that the IRS audits and AP scandal aren't important. And it has nothing to do with being a right-winger or wishing for the destruction of the president. It has more to do with us maintaining some semblance of a democratic society.

And my reason for thinking Benghazi is a big deal is because lives were lost due to the lack of response when pleas for help were given and the election was hanging in the balance. I believe that the immediate response and the ensuing report were politically motivated. If it were Bush, he would be burning in effigy today. I don't sense the same outrage from the right-wingers you speak of. But, if there are no hearings, I'm fearful it will provoke the right's fringe idiots. Which would only help the socialist's cause.

What this guy said. 
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Re: DOJ Seize AP Phone Records
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2013, 01:20:36 PM »
I am not disagreeing that the IRS audits and AP scandal aren't important. And it has nothing to do with being a right-winger or wishing for the destruction of the president. It has more to do with us maintaining some semblance of a democratic society.

And my reason for thinking Benghazi is a big deal is because lives were lost due to the lack of response when pleas for help were given and the election was hanging in the balance. I believe that the immediate response and the ensuing report were politically motivated. If it were Bush, he would be burning in effigy today. I don't sense the same outrage from the right-wingers you speak of. But, if there are no hearings, I'm fearful it will provoke the right's fringe idiots. Which would only help the socialist's cause.

That cause we are at work, we are working longer and harder for less money to support the 49%.

Most of them (both parties) want to rule not govern.

Fuck all the politicians. 
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2013, 02:04:06 PM »
Of course not.  The guy's name is Gary.  That's a white man's name.  A racist white man.

So you are seriously asking why the President of the Associated Press is mad about this? 
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« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2013, 02:05:40 PM »
So you are seriously asking why the President of the Associated Press is mad about this?

No need to ask.  He's obviously a supporter of critical race theory along with other hate group-supported archaic views. 
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Re: DOJ Seize AP Phone Records
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2013, 02:16:53 PM »
I just hope they aren't recording my calls to 1-800-HOT-BABE. And if they did , I hope they can't hear me spanking the monkey. I'm terrified that one day a video of me whipping meself will surface. I worry that they hide the cameras in hotel rooms and hotels make me horny.
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Re: DOJ Seize AP Phone Records
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2013, 02:36:27 PM »
No need to ask.  He's obviously a supporter of critical race theory along with other hate group-supported archaic views.

Then we must be thinking of a different set of Gary Pruitt's. 

Now if you are just fucking with me and don't see the clear trampling of constitutional rights over this issue then I would ask you to go back and read the constitution again.
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Re: DOJ Seize AP Phone Records
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2013, 02:51:53 PM »
Then we must be thinking of a different set of Gary Pruitt's. 

Now if you are just fucking with me and don't see the clear trampling of constitutional rights over this issue then I would ask you to go back and read the constitution again.

I do believe Mr Townhall is using some of his world famous "extreme hyperbole".

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Re: DOJ Seize AP Phone Records
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2013, 03:04:50 PM »
I do believe Mr Townhall is using some of his world famous "extreme hyperbole".

I was/am hoping so.  I am not up to detecting it today.  Too busy and my sinuses are killing me so my sense of humor/wit is not up to snuff.

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Re: DOJ Seize AP Phone Records
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2013, 03:13:28 PM »
I was/am hoping so.  I am not up to detecting it today.  Too busy and my sinuses are killing me so my sense of humor/wit is not up to snuff sniff.

isn't that what you meant?
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Re: DOJ Seize AP Phone Records
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2013, 03:20:19 PM »
isn't that what you meant?

That too. 
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« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2013, 11:09:55 AM »
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu-nI6KWAAQ#t=4m30s

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Re: DOJ Seize AP Phone Records
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2013, 03:47:59 PM »
Throw another log on the "DOJ vs. the Press" Fire.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-admin-spied-fox-news-reporter-james-rosen-134204299.html

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The Justice Department spied extensively on Fox News reporter James Rosen in 2010, collecting his telephone records, tracking his movements in and out of the State Department and seizing two days of Rosen’s personal emails, the Washington Post reported on Monday.

In a chilling move sure to rile defenders of civil liberties, an FBI agent also accused Rosen of breaking anti-espionage law with behavior that—as described in the agent's own affidavit—falls well inside the bounds of traditional news reporting. (Disclosure: This reporter counts Rosen among his friends.)

UPDATE: Fox News responds with a blistering statement that asserts Rosen was "simply doing his job" in his role as "a member of what up until now has always been a free press.”

The revelations surfaced with President Barack Obama’s administration already under fire for seizing two months of telephone records of reporters and editors at the Associated Press. Obama last week said he makes “no apologies” for investigations into national security-related leaks. The AP's CEO, Gray Pruitt, said Sunday that the seizure was "unconstitutional."

The Obama administration has prosecuted twice as many leakers as all previous administrations combined.

“The president is a strong defender of the First Amendment and a firm believer in the need for the press to be unfettered in its ability to conduct investigative reporting and facilitate a free flow of information,” White House press secretary Jay Carney insisted last week. “He also, of course, recognizes the need for the Justice Department to investigate alleged criminal activity without undue influence.”

The details of the government's strategy against Rosen sound like something out of a spy novel.

Investigators looking into disclosures of sensitive information about North Korea got Rosen’s telephone records and a warrant for his personal emails but also used his State Department security badge to track his movements in and out of that building, the Post reported, citing court documents.

The case began when Rosen reported on June 11, 2009, that U.S. intelligence believed North Korea might respond to tighter United Nations sanctions with new nuclear tests. Rosen reported that the information came from CIA sources inside the hermetic Stalinist state.

Investigators zeroed in on State Department arms expert Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, who was among a small group of intelligence officials to receive a top-secret report on the issue the same day that Rosen's piece ran online.

But FBI agent Reginald Reyes wrote that there was evidence Rosen had broken the law, “at the very least, either as an aider, abettor and/or co-conspirator,” the Post said.

And just what did Rosen do? Here's Reyes in an affidavit to support his request for a search warrant:

“From the beginning of their relationship, the Reporter asked, solicited and encouraged Mr. Kim to disclose sensitive United States internal documents and intelligence information about the Foreign Country," the FBI agent wrote. "The Reporter did so by employing flattery and playing to Mr. Kim’s vanity and ego.”

"Much like an intelligence officer would run an clandestine intelligence source, the Reporter instructed Mr. Kim on a covert communications plan," Reyes said, explicitly comparing reportorial tactics to espionage.

Here is how the Post described another section of Reyes' report:

    Using italics for emphasis, Reyes explained how Rosen allegedly used a “covert communications plan” and quoted from an e-mail exchange between Rosen and Kim that seems to describe a secret system for passing along information.

    In the exchange, Rosen used the alias “Leo” to address Kim and called himself “Alex,” an apparent reference to Alexander Butterfield, the man best known for running the secret recording system in the Nixon White House, according to the affidavit.

    Rosen instructed Kim to send him coded signals on his Google account, according to a quote from his e-mail in the affidavit: “One asterisk means to contact them, or that previously suggested plans for communication are to proceed as agreed; two asterisks means the opposite.”

    He also wrote, according to the affidavit: “What I am interested in, as you might expect, is breaking news ahead of my competitors” including “what intelligence is picking up.” And: “I’d love to see some internal State Department analyses.”


The communications system is a bit cloak-and-dagger, but it's not clear from the Post report or the affidavit that Rosen did anything outside the bounds of traditional reporting. People who know Rosen will smile at the Butterfield reference: The tenacious Fox News reporter is known as a Beatles fanatic, Tom Wolfe devotee and Watergate obsessive.
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Re: DOJ Seize AP Phone Records
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2013, 04:00:15 PM »
Not good.  Not good at all.
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Re: DOJ Seize AP Phone Records
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2013, 04:02:13 PM »
Less outrage from the MSM because the guy was a fox reporter, he prolly had it coming.
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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2013, 04:52:19 PM »
Less outrage from the MSM because the guy was a fox reporter, he prolly had it coming.

I actually read an article or two today where some in the MSM actually was really pissed about this one too.  Didn't matter that he worked for Fox, they were still pissed for him.
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Re: DOJ Seize AP Phone Records
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2013, 09:41:12 PM »
Throw another log on the "DOJ vs. the Press" Fire.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-admin-spied-fox-news-reporter-james-rosen-134204299.html
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The Obama administration has prosecuted twice as many leakers as all previous administrations combined.

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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2013, 11:23:19 PM »
STOP. GO TO OTHER THREAD.

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