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Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January

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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #101 on: January 17, 2013, 08:58:34 AM »
What happens when government trained and government paid doctors find that you own guns and then start deeming gun owners a mental health risk?

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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #102 on: January 17, 2013, 09:10:35 AM »
I'm thinking of moving to...Uruguay.

"Uruguay is a politically stable country, it is one of the few Latin American countries that was not affected by the economic crisis, and investors see it as an attractive option. Plus, in 2008, a pioneering migration law was passed that gives immigrants the same rights and opportunities that nationals have," he explains.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #103 on: January 17, 2013, 09:43:45 AM »
I like Ron Paul to an extent, not BF kind of love and the rest of the RPR's, but to an extent.   I like Rand a whole lot more than I do Ron though.

As Michael Savage said, "Finally, someone with some balls!"

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http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/rand-paul-on-gun-control-pledges-to-nullify-obama-orders-86332.html


Rand Paul pledges to 'nullify' President Obama's executive orders


Paul will introduce his legislation in Congress next week.
By KATIE GLUECK | 1/17/13 6:11 AM EST

Sen. Rand Paul is pledging to undo some of President Barack Obama’s executive orders on guns that the Kentucky Republican believes overreach.

“In this bill we will nullify anything the president does that smacks of legislation,” Rand said Wednesday on Fox’s “Hannity,” referencing his legislation that is slated to be introduced in Congress next week. “And there are several of the executive orders that appear as if he’s writing new law. That cannot happen.”

Rand’s comments came several hours after Obama unveiled his plan to curb gun violence, an initiative that included 23 executive actions he promised to take to address the matter. Unilateral actions from the president include pushing for research into the causes of gun violence, improving the federal background check system and calling on federal law enforcement to trace guns that are collected during criminal investigations.

“I’m afraid that President Obama may have this ‘king complex’ sort of developing, and we’re going to make sure it doesn’t happen,” Paul said, adding that the Founding Fathers specified that Congress should make laws.

Obama also laid out several policies for Congress to take up, calling on the body to pursue a ban on military-style assault weapons and asking for universal background checks. Paul said he believed that Obama’s proposals for Congress would falter.

“I think there are a few Democrats that will worry about going home to West Virginia or other states like that and voting for a ban on guns,” Paul said. “So, I think there is a good chance we can stop his legislative action. I’m concerned he will try to do the regulatory fiat, what he can’t pass through legislation.”

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) hit back at Paul Thursday morning.

“But the notion that we’re going to nullify presidential action when the president is acting pursuant to law, that’s just kind of this anti-government rhetoric that I’m surprised to hear somebody in government use it,” he said on CNN’s “Starting Point.”

Kevin Cirilli contributed to this report.

More later and I will add emphasis.   That last paragraph pisses me off with it's double standard.  I thought it was Patriotic to question the President?
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #104 on: January 17, 2013, 10:06:59 AM »
I love Auburn, Glad I live in Texas.

Can I ask when lee county became a gun control bastion and Texas became the model for all things Constitution?I guess I missed the memo. The next Obama in the making is your current mayor of SA. And Sheila jackson lee? Yeah let me move on out there. Sounds great.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #105 on: January 17, 2013, 10:08:41 AM »
I like Ron Paul to an extent, not BF kind of love and the rest of the RPR's, but to an extent.   I like Rand a whole lot more than I do Ron though.

As Michael Savage said, "Finally, someone with some balls!"

More later and I will add emphasis.   That last paragraph pisses me off with it's double standard.  I thought it was Patriotic to question the President?

If the GOP doesn't put rand Paul and/or Marco Rubio on the 2016 ticket, they are fucking toast. Officially. 

Also, exec order has very limited and strict rules. Making up new laws and circumventing an existing one is not within those powers. Anything limited the 2nd amendment in an exec order holds no legal water. Good for Rand Paul for seeing this.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #106 on: January 17, 2013, 10:27:53 AM »
Can I ask when lee county became a gun control bastion and Texas became the model for all things Constitution?I guess I missed the memo. The next Obama in the making is your current mayor of SA. And Sheila jackson lee? Yeah let me move on out there. Sounds great.

Yes, we have our fucked up politicians, they are mostly in Major cities. But Texas has a whole is way better off than most other states. I mean fuck, the Alabama folks argue over Alcohol content in beer.  We argue on killing criminals.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #107 on: January 17, 2013, 10:41:47 AM »
Yes, we have our fucked up politicians, they are mostly in Major cities. But Texas has a whole is way better off than most other states. I mean fuck, the Alabama folks argue over Alcohol content in beer.  We argue on killing criminals.

I guess what I am saying is your state is more liberal in general. In general Texas isnt an open carry state  in re to handguns. Thank your state reps in that weird utopia capital for PC.46.02. And you best watch Castro in SA. They are grooming that dude just like they did obama. Hes a huge anti gun freak as well. The only person I hear that spends more than a min arguing over beer content is Chizad and that side of the argument, and he lives in nawlins. It's not even something I hear mentioned around here. Personally I could careless. Bigger fish to fry.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #108 on: January 17, 2013, 10:45:33 AM »
I'm thinking of moving to...Uruguay.

"Uruguay is a politically stable country, it is one of the few Latin American countries that was not affected by the economic crisis, and investors see it as an attractive option. Plus, in 2008, a pioneering migration law was passed that gives immigrants the same rights and opportunities that nationals have," he explains.

What are the gun laws like in Uruguay and I'm wondering too if I can get by with English and German as my primary languages?  (Never cared to learn much Spanish but I guess you're never too old to learn eh?)
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #109 on: January 17, 2013, 10:54:45 AM »
If the GOP doesn't put rand Paul and/or Marco Rubio on the 2016 ticket, they are fucking toast. Officially. 

Also, exec order has very limited and strict rules. Making up new laws and circumventing an existing one is not within those powers. Anything limited the 2nd amendment in an exec order holds no legal water. Good for Rand Paul for seeing this.

Should I tell you how many letters that I've received from the GOP soliciting additional donations from me since the election?  And what I've done with said letters?

I am sorely displeased and disappointed with the Congressional GOP caucus being in hiding for the last 11 weeks but my complaints and admonitions seem to fall on deaf ears.
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The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
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The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #110 on: January 17, 2013, 11:20:47 AM »
I guess what I am saying is your state is more liberal in general.

Wow.  Don't believe everything you think you read.  Romney won Texas with nearly 60% of the vote - and won all but 26 out of 254 counties .  The larger metro areas - Dallas, Houston, San Antone, Austin, El Paso - and the western border counties are are pinko as can be.  However, the liberal influence is strictly confined to within City limits - and I could give two burps and a fart for what the City of Houston does to and/or for it's residents.  Harris County (where Houston is located) is as red as all get out - Obama did win the county, but by .03% of the vote - it was a statistical dead heat.  Just north of Harris County is Montgomery County (where I live) and we didn't even have Democrats on the ballot other than in the national and state wide races.  The county due north of Dallas County (Collin County) doesn't even have a Democratic party in the county.  Austin and Travis County are the blue pimple in the center of the state, and the border counties do as their patron tells them, but that's about it. 

And don't even go there with Shelia Jackson Lee. The local news people have stopped covering her at all unless she fucks something up royally, and then they mock her.   Y'all have Alvin Holmes and Roy Moore.  Everyone is cursed with someone.

Granted, dallas and I are on a bit of a high horse about being in Texas, and that is tiresome for others.  I get that, and I am sorry for repeating myself.  However, with the direction this country is headed, we cannot help but feel a bit relieved about living in a bastion of conservatism.  And most of y'all are still always welcome.  :)

Castro may be the next "Obama" but I wouldn't mark him down as the anti-Rubio just yet. 
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #111 on: January 17, 2013, 12:02:28 PM »
Wow.  Don't believe everything you think you read.  Romney won Texas with nearly 60% of the vote - and won all but 26 out of 254 counties .  The larger metro areas - Dallas, Houston, San Antone, Austin, El Paso - and the western border counties are are pinko as can be.  However, the liberal influence is strictly confined to within City limits - and I could give two burps and a fart for what the City of Houston does to and/or for it's residents.  Harris County (where Houston is located) is as red as all get out - Obama did win the county, but by .03% of the vote - it was a statistical dead heat.  Just north of Harris County is Montgomery County (where I live) and we didn't even have Democrats on the ballot other than in the national and state wide races.  The county due north of Dallas County (Collin County) doesn't even have a Democratic party in the county.  Austin and Travis County are the blue pimple in the center of the state, and the border counties do as their patron tells them, but that's about it. 

And don't even go there with Shelia Jackson Lee. The local news people have stopped covering her at all unless she fucks something up royally, and then they mock her.   Y'all have Alvin Holmes and Roy Moore.  Everyone is cursed with someone.

Granted, Dallas and I are on a bit of a high horse about being in Texas, and that is tiresome for others.  I get that, and I am sorry for repeating myself.  However, with the direction this country is headed, we cannot help but feel a bit relieved about living in a bastion of conservatism.  And most of y'all are still always welcome.  :)

Castro may be the next "Obama" but I wouldn't mark him down as the anti-Rubio just yet.


Texas Unemployment rate   6.2 (As of Nov 2012)
Alabama                           7.5   ""      ""     ""

Crime  (From 2010)    Alabama Ranked 11th worst in the nation.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/04/05/most-dangerous-states-crime-rankings-for-2010/   

You can get a CHL license here for 8 hrs of your time. And most who don't have one are considered odd.

I run a business in Collin County and it is very business friendly.

No state Sales tax. But fuck we have toll roads everywhere.

And bottom line is that have yawl turd town and more fucking turd rednecks to deal with.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #112 on: January 17, 2013, 12:59:15 PM »
But fuck we have toll roads everywhere.

No fucking lie.

You want to get my husband started on a twenty minute screeching, spitting like a rabid cat tirade?  Ask him when Hwy 249 - the main artery out to Bumfuck where we live - is going to be pay to play.  That raises his blood pressure more than I do.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #113 on: January 17, 2013, 01:14:48 PM »
No fucking lie.

You want to get my husband started on a twenty minute screeching, spitting like a rabid cat tirade?  Ask him when Hwy 249 - the main artery out to Bumfuck where we live - is going to be pay to play.  That raises his blood pressure more than I do.

I looked at our toll usage at the beginning of the year. We both have to take a toll road to work, and anywhere we want to go on weekends (North Dallas-Plano-Frisco) most are all toll roads. We toll in and out of both Airports (Parking-etc). The NTTA debits your account $40.00 everytime you dip below $10.00 in your account. We were getting hit with that debit twice a week. It was costing $7.00 (one way) to go visit my dad in Ft. Worth.

My figure came up around $3200.00 for the year. We have decided to take services roads to work(Adds about 10 minutes to the drive) and just use the tolls on weekends if we have to.

And they have the perfect crime, the tolls go up up every three years automatically 6%.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #114 on: January 17, 2013, 04:07:27 PM »
And they have the perfect crime, the tolls go up up every three years automatically 6%.

Even after the initial investment is paid back, the toll continues to go up... never mind that the maintenance is not as high as that...

Rat bastards.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #115 on: January 17, 2013, 06:58:58 PM »
The real motive: "...dampen the mood for confiscation."
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #116 on: January 18, 2013, 10:53:33 AM »

Texas Unemployment rate   6.2 (As of Nov 2012)
Alabama                           7.5   ""      ""     ""

Crime  (From 2010)    Alabama Ranked 11th worst in the nation.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/04/05/most-dangerous-states-crime-rankings-for-2010/   

You can get a CHL license here for 8 hrs of your time. And most who don't have one are considered odd.

I run a business in Collin County and it is very business friendly.

No state Sales tax. But fuck we have toll roads everywhere.

And bottom line is that have yawl turd town and more fucking turd rednecks to deal with.

The jobs and corporate tax rates are one thing I do think they have going well. I'll give credit where it's due.

Both of those unemployment numbers are below most northern states that are taxed into oblivion.

Texas and Bama both are amongst the lowest total tax burden states in the country. And that is good. U fortunately alabama has a higher % that has to go out the door to entitlements which causes quite the budget shortfall. And if I elaborate anymore as to why I'd get branded a racist but its true.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #117 on: January 18, 2013, 11:10:45 AM »
And if I elaborate anymore as to why I'd get branded a racist but its true.

You have something against dry-wallers, don't you?
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #118 on: January 18, 2013, 11:13:47 AM »
What are the gun laws like in Uruguay and I'm wondering too if I can get by with English and German as my primary languages?  (Never cared to learn much Spanish but I guess you're never too old to learn eh?)
Only bad thing is they're left leaning.

You can get by just fine with using English. To put it in perspective, the Bush family bought 96,000 acres in Paraguay just north of Uruguay. I prefer Uruguay because it's on the coast and the land fertile.

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Gun Laws. While nothing like the ones in USA, they are better than in most other South American countries. You need a gun license to purchase guns up to 9mm, and a collectors one for larger calibers. Like in Argentina, detachable mag fed rifles and carbines in calibers other than 22LR are impossible to get. But its not hard to get a Glock 9mm, lever action rifles, pump shotguns and bolt action rifles. Not perfect but you can still be well armed for 90% of the self defense needs. A carry permit is a bit harder but available for the law abiding citizen. Wish Argentina had similar carry permits.  http://www.themodernsurvivalist.com/archives/789

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Location is very much ideal if you want to be away from the main world powers. Usually this would be more of a disadvantage, but if you’re worried about powerful countries nuking each other, this is preferred. At the same its just an hour away from Buenos Aires in boat. I took the slower boat from Buenos Aires, the one that takes 3 hours, but the trip is very enjoyable across the River Plate. The Buquebus boat has a bar inside and a shop, kids have a good time in it. Strategically speaking, you’re still 1 hour away from Buenos Aires, the 7th largest city in the planet, and while crime is a problem here as well as every other problem Argentina has, its close enough to take advantage of the larger metropolis in case you need to buy items that are harder to find (or just more expensive) back in Uruguay. At the same time, river Plate being the widest river in the planet creates the perfect natural barrier. Even during colonial times, the rocky shallow shores of Colonia made it hard for invading forces. Buenos Aires can go to hell in a basket, none of that will reach Colonia.
Regarding supplies, ebay makes it easy to buy just about anything you need in terms of specialized gear.
Uruguay has a low population, 3.5 million inhabitants for its 68,037 sq mile territory. The people are 90% white of European ancestry, mostly Catholic, similar to Argentina.
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Re: Obama Demands Suggestions for Gun Law Changes by January
« Reply #119 on: January 18, 2013, 11:13:59 AM »
You have something against dry-wallers, don't you?

Hmm. Are we discussing the brown people again?
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1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.