Monday Rumor Mill: Malzhan, Smart, and Chad Morris?

[WiregrassTiger]

No one knows how tied Gus' hands were.

Sounds kinky.

[Snaggletiger]

I agree Prowley, 100%.

I honestly think Smart will be a good HC.  My problem is can we afford to take the chance if he is not?

This is the biggest problem I have.

Come on, be honest.  That's not nearly the biggest problem you have.  Fortunately, they have drugs that won't toally clear that up but make it very manageable.

Between those choices, I'm on the Gus bus.  I seriously think the problems with this program come back to roost at one guy's doorstep.  Gene Chizik.  Do we know that Gus Malzahn was able to do things the way he wanted to do them?  Was he allowed to?  Chizik told him to fuck up his offense.  He changed all of Lefftlerz shit as well.  Chizik is solely responsible for non-mandatory workouts.  He's solely responsible for how they practice and how they're disciplined. 

I now believe none of the coaches we've had were able to handle their business the way they wanted to.  That includes one Theodore Roof.

[Godfather]

Come on, be honest.  That's not nearly the biggest problem you have.  Fortunately, they have drugs that won't toally clear that up but make it very manageable.

Between those choices, I'm on the Gus bus.  I seriously think the problems with this program come back to roost at one guy's doorstep.  Gene Chizik.  Do we know that Gus Malzahn was able to do things the way he wanted to do them?  Was he allowed to?  Chizik told him to fuck up his offense.  He changed all of Lefftlerz shit as well.  Chizik is solely responsible for non-mandatory workouts.  He's solely responsible for how they practice and how they're disciplined. 

I now believe none of the coaches we've had were able to handle their business the way they wanted to.  That includes one Theodore Roof.

Yeah but what makes Gus so special?  We had two mediocre years and one great year as our OC. Oh and with a superstar Thug at QB. 

[Pell City Tiger]

If given the choice between Gus and Smart, give me Smart.  We need discipline in the worst kind of way and Gus was there when 3/4 of our kids were recruited.  Do you really think they will take him serious?  I sure as hell don't.  I think Smart will make a good coach but I also think that we are at a point where we can't really take a chance on an unproven coach (I don't think one year in the Sun Belt makes you proven either) which is why I wanted a Patterson or Petrino hire.

Gus signed Pistol Pete Dyer after he was kicked out of Auburn. Like Rob Pate said, this tells me all I need to know about Gus's ability to handle disciplinary issues.

We just went through enough of this shit for me. No thank you.

[Buzz Killington]

Yeah but what makes Gus so special?  We had two mediocre years and one great year as our OC. Oh and with a superstar Thug at QB.

Went from the watered down version of the Tubershell in 2008 to a record setting offense in 2009.  Tailored his offense in 2010 to Cam's strengths, and the rest is in the history books.  The 2011 offense was doing well until one Eugene Chizik tied his hands in the locker room at Clemson.

[AUTailgatingRules]

Yeah but what makes Gus so special?  We had two mediocre years and one great year as our OC. Oh and with a superstar Thug at QB.

Anybody that can score points, much less win with Mosely and Trotter as QB's is a pretty good offensive coach.  I could get behind a Gus hire.

Yes he let Dyer go to Arky State, gave him a 20th chance and kicked him off the team immediately upon fucking up.

[djsimp]

Went from the watered down version of the Tubershell in 2008 to a record setting offense in 2009.  Tailored his offense in 2010 to Cam's strengths, and the rest is in the history books.  The 2011 offense was doing well until one Eugene Chizik tied his hands in the locker room at Clemson.

Nobody told you to stick your nose into this.

[Buzz Killington]

Nobody told you to stick your nose into this.

Oh yeah? Well then just suck...wait, I see what you did there.

[djsimp]

Oh yeah? Well then just suck...wait, I see what you did there.

KILL ME!

[AUTiger1]

Gonna pull a Kaos here and tell you, hiring Gus would be a cluster fuck of epic proportions.  He knows these kids, recruited a lot of them and was there for 3 years.  When/if he tries to unpussify our kids they won't take him serious.  So we will either stay a pussified undisciplined team or  he will send so many packing that we will playing with probation numbers.  Hear me now........

[WiregrassTiger]

Gonna pull a Kaos here and tell you, hiring Gus would be a cluster fudge of epic proportions.  He knows these kids, recruited a lot of them and was there for 3 years.  When/if he tries to unpussify our kids they won't take him serious.  So we will either stay a pussified undisciplined team or  he will send so many packing that we will playing with probation numbers.  Hear me now........

I wouldn't argue this. I've read that the discipline issues were a part of the reason Gus left. He wanted Chiz to do something about them to no avail. I don't know if he has what it takes to lay it on the line and turn them into real football players or not. I hate that the lack of discipline is associated with him regardless of his contribution to it.

If it's not him (and your scenario may very well play in the minds of the committe), then the remaining "talked about" candidate is Smart.

I'm going out on a limb and saying we won't pay Patterson's price. Pretty sure it takes over 4 mil to even make him raise an eyebrow. I like him but that's a lot of green when we could likely get Smart or Malzahn for 2.5.

There is likely no homerun hire. Maybe Petrino but he may not even be interviewed and my skreetz had him as already having the job. I bet we could get him for a lot less than 4 mil.

[AUChizad]

If Twitter is to be believed, we've already hired Smart.

It has also been reported that Patterson has signed an extension to stay at TCU.

Fuck you, Jay Jacobs.

This was our shot. We're 3-9. Absolutely zero risk can be taken. You completely fucked the last hire up on a gamble, and you go for the guy with zero head coaching experience, but by gawd, Saban hired him as a DC.

We are destined to mire in mediocrity. We can't get away from the good ol' boy bullshit. They want a puppet instead of a proven head coach. I know the Dye meddling is supposedly overstated, but it looks like he will get his man this time.

We are our own worst enemy. I expect to be below .500 for a good five years now. Maybe forever.

[Saniflush]

I know the Dye meddling is supposedly overstated, but it looks like he will get his man this time.

Per the Warden, Dye has not set foot in Auburn to ensure that the bullshit rumors of him controlling the hiring process did not surface again.

TIFWIW

[Godfather]

I'm not on the Smart bus, but I am driving the do not want Gus bus.  You can blame Chizik 100% for Auburn's failures but Chizik was not 100% to blame.  Even if you think that Chizik did handicap Gus.  Was he also involved in who Gus wanted to recruit?  I have no idea if Gus can recruit and/or develop players.  We are in our 4th year of less then mediocre QB's and outside of Juco Superstar Thug, all of them were recruited by Gus. 

[AUChizad]

Not physically.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but Dye's been all over Kirby's nuts through his drunken senile ramblings on Finebaum since before Chizik was gone.

Seems an awful lot like he's getting his way...

[noxin]

I'm not on the Smart bus, but I am driving the do not want Gus bus. 

How's it handling?  You know, I'm in charge of the assembly line that pumps those things out.

[GH2001]

Not physically.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but Dye's been all over Kirby's nuts through his drunken senile ramblings on Finebaum since before Chizik was gone.

Seems an awful lot like he's getting his way...

This

[bottomfeeder]

I'm not on the Smart bus, but I am driving the do not want Gus bus.  You can blame Chizik 100% for Auburn's failures but Chizik was not 100% to blame.  Even if you think that Chizik did handicap Gus.  Was he also involved in who Gus wanted to recruit?  I have no idea if Gus can recruit and/or develop players.  We are in our 4th year of less then mediocre QB's and outside of Juco Superstar Thug, all of them were recruited by Gus.

Gus still isn't proven regardless of his wins this year. He has to win with his own recruits before I jump on dat.

[Godfather]

How's it handling?  You know, I'm in charge of the assembly line that pumps those things out.

I am getting a little nervous, I keep trying to hit pick up Jacobs but the damn brakes seem to work.

[CCTAU]

I am getting a little nervous, I keep trying to hit pick up Jacobs but the damn brakes seem to work.

You must be driving beside the cliff. Just aim the damn thing toward the cliff. At least you'll hit JJ.