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Gun Ban List

Gun Ban List
« on: November 28, 2012, 04:14:31 PM »
Don't know if it is for real or not, but it is pretty much a copy of the Clinton list with some nasty weasel wording added in that will allow them to take pretty much anything they want.  If you want a good investment start buying AR's, if this is like the Clinton years the prices are gonna go up like crazy.


http://redflagnews.com/opinion/obamas-gun-ban-list-is-out-by-alan-korwin

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Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is already laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.

Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.

Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):
Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine

Sturm Ruger Mini-14

AR-15

Bushmaster XM15

Armalite M15

AR-10

Thompson 1927

Thompson M1

AK

AKM

AKS

AK-47

AK-74

ARM

MAK90

NHM 90

NHM 91

SA 85

SA 93

VEPR

Olympic Arms PCR

AR70

Calico Liberty

Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or DragunovSVU

Fabrique National FN/FAL

FN/LAR, or FNC

Hi-Point20Carbine

HK-91, HK-93

HK-94

HK-PSG-1

Thompson 1927 Commando

Kel-Tec Sub Rifle

Saiga

SAR-8

SAR-4800

SKS with detachable magazine

SLG 95

SLR 95 or 96

Steyr AU

Tavor

Uzi

Galil and Uzi Sporter

Galil Sporter or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz)

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110

MAC-10

MAC-11

MPA3

Olympic Arms OA

TEC-9,

TEC-DC9,

TEC-22 Scorpion or AB-10

Uzi

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

Armscor 30 BG

SPAS 12 or LAW 12

Striker 12

Streetsweeper
Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,

(ii) a threaded barrel,

(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),

(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than

10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:

(i) a second pistol grip,

(ii) a threaded barrel,

(iii) a barrel shroud or

(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and

(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,

(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),

(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and

(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.” 

Note that Obama’s pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, “there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.” In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose
— is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
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Re: Gun Ban List
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2012, 05:05:15 PM »
Fuck her and fuck the UN more.
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Re: Gun Ban List
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2012, 05:31:40 PM »
The one that cracks me up on the list is the Ruger Mini-14.  If you're not familiar here it is



Why is this on the list?  I have no idea.  It shares the action with the M-14 which was a military rifle, except this one shoots a smaller bullet (5.56 vs 7.62), is not fully automatic, and isn't as accurate by most accounts.  Who is it popular with?  Ranchers and farmers mostly who use it to dispatch sick cattle and coyotes.  The one on the top in the above picture is even called "Ranch Rifle".

Now what is odd is the Ruger Mini-30 is not on the list.  Why is this odd?  BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME DAMN RIFLE IN A LARGER CALIBER (7.62)!!!!  The only difference is that you typically don't see it with all the stupid tactical, Moder Warfare wannabe crap on it!  The gun ban list is all about guns that look threatening, to hell with how much they are actually used in crimes.

AR-15 in any variant is on the list.  Remington 7400 carbine is not.  What are the differences?  Both are carbine length gas operated semi-auto rifles with detachable magazine.  One just looks intimidating and the other doesn't.  This is ludicrous!

AR-15


Rem-7400 Carbine
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Re: Gun Ban List
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2012, 05:57:23 PM »
The one that cracks me up on the list is the Ruger Mini-14.  If you're not familiar here it is



Why is this on the list?  I have no idea.  It shares the action with the M-14 which was a military rifle, except this one shoots a smaller bullet (5.56 vs 7.62), is not fully automatic, and isn't as accurate by most accounts.  Who is it popular with?  Ranchers and farmers mostly who use it to dispatch sick cattle and coyotes.  The one on the top in the above picture is even called "Ranch Rifle".

Now what is odd is the Ruger Mini-30 is not on the list.  Why is this odd?  BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME DAMN RIFLE IN A LARGER CALIBER (7.62)!!!!  The only difference is that you typically don't see it with all the stupid tactical, Moder Warfare wannabe crap on it!  The gun ban list is all about guns that look threatening, to hell with how much they are actually used in crimes.

AR-15 in any variant is on the list.  Remington 7400 carbine is not.  What are the differences?  Both are carbine length gas operated semi-auto rifles with detachable magazine.  One just looks intimidating and the other doesn't.  This is ludicrous!

AR-15


Rem-7400 Carbine

Typical liberal approach.
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Re: Gun Ban List
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2012, 06:08:36 PM »
It's highly improbable that this proposal will get past the House of Representatives although I would not put it past The Pharaoh to put it in another of his 900 plus and counting Executive Orders.
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