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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2012, 10:37:29 AM »
I think the bottom line is our D played the way they're capable of.  It wasn't dominant but it was more along the lines of what we expect and are used to at AU.  I honestly don't think it was an "off night" for LSU or that Mettenturder was phased by the crowd or a road game.  If LSU's running game is gashing folks like they do just about every game, he can stand back there on play action and take his pick of stud receivers.  He looked like Tom Brady against Washington because every running play was 7 yards...9 yards...6 yards.  Our D got the push and penetration they needed to disrupt everything and not let LSU run downhill all night.

Think about it.  How many times did we say, "Wow, we got lucky on that one.  Mettzenbirder totally missed that guy."  Nope, we wouldn't let him get comfortable and our DB's did one of their better jobs in coverage.  But, I will say that teams like UF will definitely look at this film (When have we ever said that?) and get an idea of how to slow LSU down.

For LSU, they did exactly what I thought they'd do to our offense.  10 points and about 185 total yards?  You'll win 99% or 7/8ths of your games with that.   
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Re: Stanford v Washington
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2012, 10:41:02 AM »
I think the bottom line is our D played the way they're capable of.  It wasn't dominant but it was more along the lines of what we expect and are used to at AU.  I honestly don't think it was an "off night" for LSU or that Mettenturder was phased by the crowd or a road game.  If LSU's running game is gashing folks like they do just about every game, he can stand back there on play action and take his pick of stud receivers.  He looked like Tom Brady against Washington because every running play was 7 yards...9 yards...6 yards.  Our D got the push and penetration they needed to disrupt everything and not let LSU run downhill all night.

Think about it.  How many times did we say, "Wow, we got lucky on that one.  Mettzenbirder totally missed that guy."  Nope, we wouldn't let him get comfortable and our DB's did one of their better jobs in coverage.  But, I will say that teams like UF will definitely look at this film (When have we ever said that?) and get an idea of how to slow LSU down.

For LSU, they did exactly what I thought they'd do to our offense.  10 points and about 185 total yards?  You'll win 99% or 7/8ths of your games with that.

Do it once?  Ok.

Do it consistently?  Then we have something to discuss.

For what it's worth, I have many contacts in Arkansas.  Their view is the same as ours. 

"Lose to Auburn and this season is over.  No reason to lose to a team as bad as they are.  We'll score 21-31 points, no way they can score that much even if the defense doesn't get on the bus and we have to put the cheerleaders out there."

THAT'S who we are now.  And that's what I cannot abide. 
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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2012, 10:42:58 AM »
You're forgetting the word of the day:  Anomaly.

When there is a trend rather than a one-game aberration then the feeling might change. 

I think people were okay with the Clemson loss.  Offense struggled some, lots of new faces, new QB with his first start in a strange environ.  Some kinks to work out.  Damn, that defense looked bad at times but it's gonna get better. 

Okay with it even though every orange and blue son of a bitch on the planet expected to knock Clemson off the ball and win the old fashioned way.  Okay with it even though nobody in their tiger minds could have imagined Clemson gashing us over and over even without Weedie.  Okay because it was a decent opponent. 

Every bit of that went right out the window at State.  The offense looked worse than it did on the 3-2 day (which we won),  as bad or worse than it did during last season's abortion.  It created new definitions for inept.  The defense was some better in the first half, but Holland was so god awful shitty that his sucktastic play left a bad taste for everyone. 

Offense was no better against ULM.  Defense better at first, still folded at the end.  But why the fuck are we comparing ourselves to a Sunbelt team to measure progress?  We beat the War Fucks 34-0 in 2008 with the Franklin debacle.  Beat them 52-3 in 2010 and Cam didn't get to run a single time.  Didn't even play in the second half. 

Dammit Chizad, we shoudn't be digging through acres of dirt hoping to find a sliver of fool's gold in the fourth year of a coaching regime that's allegedly recruited as well as this one has. 

I want to be positive, I want this to work out if for no other reason than to silence the yapping fools on the radio.  But I have my doubts.   

When it's a trend and not just a single game here and there?  Talk to me.
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Mississippi State was game #1.  Game #2 is Arkansaw.  We best not lose that game...all I'm saying.
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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2012, 10:44:58 AM »
Do it once?  Ok.

Do it consistently?  Then we have something to discuss.

For what it's worth, I have many contacts in Arkansas.  Their view is the same as ours. 

"Lose to Auburn and this season is over.  No reason to lose to a team as bad as they are.  We'll score 21-31 points, no way they can score that much even if the defense doesn't get on the bus and we have to put the cheerleaders out there."

THAT'S who we are now.  And that's what I cannot abide.
Again agree.  Have we become MSU a team that will scare you, but you know at the end of the day you are going to beat?
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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2012, 10:56:06 AM »
Everyone here seems to think last week's game was more of an indication that LSU sucks and will get their shit pushed inside out when they play bammer, rather than the idea that we might have shown some legitimate improvement.

I think it's more they're overrated, but we improved, slight though it was. 
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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2012, 11:00:18 AM »
Again agree.  Have we become MSU a team that will scare you, but you know at the end of the day you are going to beat?
Arkansas is high if they think that of us right now.

Their season is unequivocally more abysmal than ours so far. MSU > Rutgers. They actually lost to ULM, not just got a scare. Barely scraped out a win against Jacksonville State, and got a bigger raping by Bama than either Western Kentucky or FAU, and neither were even close.
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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2012, 11:02:11 AM »
Do it once?  Ok.

Do it consistently?  Then we have something to discuss.

For what it's worth, I have many contacts in Arkansas.  Their view is the same as ours. 

"Lose to Auburn and this season is over.  No reason to lose to a team as bad as they are.  We'll score 21-31 points, no way they can score that much even if the defense doesn't get on the bus and we have to put the cheerleaders out there."

THAT'S who we are now.  And that's what I cannot abide.

Oh, I agree on this.  Just breaking down that one game.
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« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2012, 11:04:32 AM »
Arkansas is high if they think that of us right now.

Their season is unequivocally more abysmal than ours so far. MSU > Rutgers. They actually lost to ULM, not just got a scare. Barely scraped out a win against Jacksonville State, and got a bigger raping by Bama than either Western Kentucky or FAU, and neither were even close.
The fact that this is a bragging point, is terribly fucking sad.
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« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2012, 11:08:29 AM »
The fact that this is a bragging point, is terribly fucking sad.
Not bragging, just saying for apples-to-apples comparison's sake, it beats the alternative. And Arkansas lived the alternative.

That said, ULM will make the rest of their schedule their bitch if their three showings against major conference schools is any indication.
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« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2012, 11:09:59 AM »
Not bragging, just saying for apples-to-apples comparison's sake, it beats the alternative. And Arkansas lived the alternative.

That said, ULM will make the rest of their schedule their bitch if their three showings against major conference schools is any indication.
But are they "elite"?
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« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2012, 11:10:05 AM »
100%

Mississippi State was game #1.  Game #2 is Arkansaw.  We best not lose that game...all I'm saying.

We're in the same boat.  As I've said, the two things I want/have to see, are improvement...fight against LSU, and a win against Arkansas.  Even though the O didn't do squat, the defense did enough for me to say #1 was accomplished. Lose to Arkansas, and I'll take my blood pressure medication and try to have calm and rational discussions about who the next coach will be at Auburn.
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« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2012, 11:11:01 AM »
But are they "elite"?
Really, really elite?
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« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2012, 11:16:42 AM »
We're in the same boat.  As I've said, the two things I want/have to see, are improvement...fight against LSU, and a win against Arkansas.  Even though the O didn't do squat, the defense did enough for me to say #1 was accomplished. Lose to Arkansas, and I'll take my blood pressure medication and try to have calm and rational discussions about who the next coach will be at Auburn.
Agree.
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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2012, 11:17:15 AM »
But are they "elite"?
I think they are solidly a "kinda-sorta-good" team.
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« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2012, 11:21:04 AM »
I think they are solidly a "kinda-sorta-good" team.

You don't give them enough credit.  They are one the elite kinda-sorta-good teams.  And Auburn beat that ass.
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« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2012, 11:24:50 AM »
Based on stats...

After 4 games and out of 120 teams.
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« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2012, 11:36:53 AM »
So we are > USC

#13 Auburn bitches


Seriously though LSU beat us 12-10 what's your point? We might be better than Stanford? Fuck those west coast hippie smart leftists.

You've just lost your Nookies House of Porn discount card.
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« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2012, 12:03:17 PM »
You've just lost your Nookies House of Porn discount card.
I'm the silent partner I don't need a discount card.
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« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2012, 12:43:13 PM »
I'm have a silent partner I don't need a discount card.

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« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2012, 12:51:10 PM »
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