Will Josh Bynes please report to the locker room?!?!?

[RWS]

I'm more confident in our current QBs in this offense than I would be in Coach Malzahn's, not knocking Malzahn.

Hold on.....Kiehl Frazier has played in Malzahn's offense since high school. His high school coach was also one of Malzahn's QBs at one time. But this new offense all of a sudden is going to give him a decided advantage over Malzahn's system?

Coach Leoffler's offense focuses on the Ground and Pound running game, with playaction off of that

I thought this was also the focus of Malzahn's offense? He even says it is a run-oriented offense. Or, was Mike Dyer recruited simply as a blocking back?

[RWS]

Why did a change have to be made, when the only option sux'd worse?

I think most people start off with the reasonable assumption that their 1st string guy can't be THAT bad. But he was. When you have somebody that shitty, you can't help but to want to see the guy behind him. If nothing else, simply on a hope and a prayer that it lights a fire under his ass to not be as shitty as the guy ahead of him. Notice I didn't use the term "better". I think the best you guys could have hoped for was "less shitty" in that scenario. With a program like Auburn, you just don't expect to see QB play like either of those guys put out.

[RWS]

...and I still think he was better than CJ coming out of HS. I don't have a crystal ball that shows me how a certain player will be THREE YEARS, a few injuries (including an ankle sprained) and apparently a bad LBer Coach later.

Sprained ankle? Seriously? CJ Mosley had his hip dislocated in the NCG. I guess he better hang up his cleats this season. It's a miracle that he was able to play again after his elbow dislocation. How that sprained ankle hasn't ended Holland's career, we will never know. I sprained my ankle twice playing baseball in the 3rd grade. The doctors weren't sure that I was going to make it. It was touch and go for days. When I broke my wrist playing football in 4th grade? They almost pulled the plug.

After all the things you come on here and spout, you're going to throw out the ol' "I don't have a crystal ball" line? Not surprising, really.

[JR4AU]

And then he was. 

So Chizik was stupid?  This is what you're saying?

Pfffft

[AUTiger1]

I will reserve judgment until the season starts and see what BVG/Thig have done to coach him up.  Going on past performances (and not just on gif of getting juked by a WAC TF QB), but I just don't see Holland as anywhere close to Josh Bynes. 

[Townhallsavoy]

You mean, other than not being named the starter?

One reason why people had confidence in Moseley was because Chizik and the coaches said he and Trotter were dead even in preseason practice and spring practice.  They gave the nod to Trotter because of experience. 

Trotter wasn't the suckage he was until halftime of the Clemson game.  Then he regressed.  So everyone naturally thought that if they were even preseason and Trotter was getting worse, why not try Moseley to see if we can pick up with the offense?

Then Moseley sucked.  Sucked hard.  Sucked harder than any SEC QB I can remember. 

[Godfather]

but I just don't see Holland as anywhere close to Josh Bynes.

Well for one thing Bynes is black, Holland is white. So those are definitely two different colors.

[Buzz Killington]

Well for one thing Bynes is black, Holland is white. So those are definitely two different colors.

He's not the best color guy in the business for nothing, folks.

[The Prowler]

Sprained ankle? Seriously? CJ Mosley had his hip dislocated in the NCG. I guess he better hang up his cleats this season. It's a miracle that he was able to play again after his elbow dislocation. How that sprained ankle hasn't ended Holland's career, we will never know. I sprained my ankle twice playing baseball in the 3rd grade. The doctors weren't sure that I was going to make it. It was touch and go for days. When I broke my wrist playing football in 4th grade? They almost pulled the plug.

After all the things you come on here and spout, you're going to throw out the ol' "I don't have a crystal ball" line? Not surprising, really.

So, when he doesn't perform that good this year, we'll just say he sucks and he's a fuckin retard that should stay home and eat crayons all day. Also, CJ's injuries haven't limited his mobility until he dislocated his hip (his mobility will be affected with that injury).

Btw, no one cares what you did in parkball.

And yes, Jake Holland was better than CJ Moseley coming out of HS, which is what I base my rankings off of...what they do in HS, not like the other recruiting websites that try and predict how players will do in College when they rank them.

[Godfather]

So, when he doesn't perform that good this year, we'll just say he sucks and he's a fuckin retard that should stay home and eat crayons all day. Also, CJ's injuries haven't limited his mobility until he dislocated his hip (his mobility will be affected with that injury).

Jake like candy.

[Snaggletiger]

Jake like candy.

Jake just pawn in game of life.   

BTDub....Hey Jake, love ya' babe...but Josh Bynes could rock "The stare".  You?  Not so much.

[Godfather]

Jake just pawn in game of life.   

BTDub....Hey Jake, love ya' babe...but Josh Bynes could rock "The stare".  You?  Not so much.

Me Jake

[Snaggletiger]

Me Jake

Oh....shizzit. 

[Saniflush]

Me Jake

hard to believe that was Webster's dad in the 80's.

[Shug Dye]

Number one: This thread, despite being the mostly about the inept dry hump that is Jake Holland...manages to still be full of  .

Number two: If Jake is already splitting time with Cassanova..... He's screwed. And I don't care. Bring on the young Lovahboy.

[JR4AU]

One reason why people had confidence in Moseley was because Chizik and the coaches said he and Trotter were dead even in preseason practice and spring practice.  They gave the nod to Trotter because of experience. 

Trotter wasn't the suckage he was until halftime of the Clemson game.  Then he regressed.  So everyone naturally thought that if they were even preseason and Trotter was getting worse, why not try Moseley to see if we can pick up with the offense?

Then Moseley sucked.  Sucked hard.  Sucked harder than any SEC QB I can remember.

Uh, Trotter did suck from game 1.  It just didn't show up that badly until we faced a decent team.  He refused to pull the trigger on time in the Utah State game.  MSU sucked, and they also had no idea how badly we sucked offensively, and would have played us differently like other defenses did late in the season had they known. 

Did Chiz/Malzahn make the right decision to bench Trotter?  I think so, but it wasn't done because they thought Moseley was suddenly better, it was done in hopes the light might come on for him, because it hadn't for Trotter.  They still knew he sucked and basically just were saying "what the fuck, it can't get worse".  On that, they were wrong.  But, just like Trotter won the job and regressed, Moseley probably looked much better on the practice field when he KNEW he wasn't going to be hit, and that's not unusual.   

[Godfather]

Snaggle goes into the fetal position when he has the trots. 

[Kaos]

Uh, Trotter did suck from game 1.  It just didn't show up that badly until we faced a decent team.  He refused to pull the trigger on time in the Utah State game.  MSU sucked, and they also had no idea how badly we sucked offensively, and would have played us differently like other defenses did late in the season had they known. 

Did Chiz/Malzahn make the right decision to bench Trotter?  I think so, but it wasn't done because they thought Moseley was suddenly better, it was done in hopes the light might come on for him, because it hadn't for Trotter.  They still knew he sucked and basically just were saying "what the fuck, it can't get worse".  On that, they were wrong.  But, just like Trotter won the job and regressed, Moseley probably looked much better on the practice field when he KNEW he wasn't going to be hit, and that's not unusual.

Game-winning drive(s) against USU.

Solid performance against MSU. (16-23 for 146 and 2 TDs)

Bad second half -- one bad play actually that screwed his head up -- against Clemson.

Acceptable effort against Fla. Atlantic (178 yards and 2TDs)

Game-winning drive against So. Carolina.

Complete fucktard against Arkansas

Sucked against Florida for a half and disappeared until the bowl.

Won the bowl by himself. 

Total 1184 yards and 11 TDs.

And then Moseley:


Florida 4-7 for 90 yards

Complete fucktard against LSU

Good game vs. Ole Miss

Complete fucktard vs. Georgia

Complete fucktard vs. Samford

Complete fucktard vs. Alabama

Complete fucktard for one quarter in Bowl.

Finished with 800 yards and 5 TD passes.  FOUR of those TDs came against Ole Miss.  Only had one the entire year otherwise. 


Moseley = Complete fucktard.

[jmar]

Game-winning drive(s) against USU.

Solid performance against MSU. (16-23 for 146 and 2 TDs)

Bad second half -- one bad play actually that screwed his head up -- against Clemson.

Acceptable effort against Fla. Atlantic (178 yards and 2TDs)

Game-winning drive against So. Carolina.

Complete fucktard against Arkansas

Sucked against Florida for a half and disappeared until the bowl.

Won the bowl by himself. 

Total 1184 yards and 11 TDs.

And then Moseley:


Florida 4-7 for 90 yards

Complete fucktard against LSU

Good game vs. Ole Miss

Complete fucktard vs. Georgia

Complete fucktard vs. Samford

Complete fucktard vs. Alabama

Complete fucktard for one quarter in Bowl.

Finished with 800 yards and 5 TD passes.  FOUR of those TDs came against Ole Miss.  Only had one the entire year otherwise. 


Moseley = Complete fucktard.

[/quote]Yet the coaches elected to alternate Moseley with Frazier, who wasn't allowed to pass. Moseley has been ailing since the Spring and still there is a QB competition. This doesn't give me comfort in the coaches confidence in Frazier.

[Saniflush]

Yet the coaches elected to alternate Moseley with Frazier, who wasn't allowed to pass. Moseley has been ailing since the Spring and still there is a QB competition. This doesn't give me comfort in the coaches confidence in Frazier.

Speaking specifically from a management standpoint this doesn't really concern me.  When I am trying people in a new position, it is a competition.  Even if I already think I know which way it will go in the end.