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If we could just be more like Europe....

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If we could just be more like Europe....
« on: July 31, 2012, 10:33:38 AM »
Libruls are really working hard to be more enlightened like Europe. Unfortunately, it's not working for Europe either.

http://news.yahoo.com/eurozone-unemployment-record-high-june-101112425--finance.html
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Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: If we could just be more like Europe....
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2012, 09:15:07 PM »
Libruls are really working hard to be more enlightened like Europe. Unfortunately, it's not working for Europe either.

http://news.yahoo.com/eurozone-unemployment-record-high-june-101112425--finance.html

I think that this high stat can be blamed specifically on the socialists in the PIIGS parts of the EuroZone; mainly Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, and Spain.  The German unemployment rate of 5.4% would be welcome in the US compared to the 9% plus average (I was shocked to learn a few days ago that the unemployment rate in the county where I live is 15%!).  Good article; thanks for sharing.
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Re: If we could just be more like Europe....
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2012, 11:52:57 PM »
I think that this high stat can be blamed specifically on the socialists in the PIIGS parts of the EuroZone; mainly Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, and Spain.  The German unemployment rate of 5.4% would be welcome in the US compared to the 9% plus average (I was shocked to learn a few days ago that the unemployment rate in the county where I live is 15%!).  Good article; thanks for sharing.

No, Europe is all the same.
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Re: If we could just be more like Europe....
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2012, 01:43:15 PM »
No, Europe is all the same.

I disagree.
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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: If we could just be more like Europe....
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2012, 01:44:56 PM »
I disagree.

Me as well.

Germany's policies are very different than most other European countries. It is what it is. They have something working. The others have an entitlement state that is collapsing.
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Re: If we could just be more like Europe....
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2012, 02:16:37 PM »
Me as well.

Germany's policies are very different than most other European countries. It is what it is. They have something working. The others have an entitlement state that is collapsing.
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Well. OK. Germany is the exception.  But they have always been the exception in many ways.
But for the most part, Europe has grabbed hold of the best liberal policies in the world and cannot seem to make it work. I guess enlightenment comes with a price. Are we willing to pay that price?
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2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: If we could just be more like Europe....
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2012, 02:19:21 PM »
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Well. OK. Germany is the exception.  But they have always been the exception in many ways.
But for the most part, Europe has grabbed hold of the best liberal policies in the world and cannot seem to make it work. I guess enlightenment comes with a price. Are we willing to pay that price?

Germany hasn't always been like this. Theyve had their moments. Maybe they learned the lesson.
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Re: If we could just be more like Europe....
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2012, 02:22:19 PM »
Germany hasn't always been like this. Theyve had their moments. Maybe they learned the lesson.

Post WWII. They took the reconstruction money and used it to create wealth from not only rebuilding their own country, but for all of lazy ass Europe too.
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Five statements of WISDOM
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friends, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Re: If we could just be more like Europe....
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2012, 02:33:40 PM »
Post WWII. They took the reconstruction money and used it to create wealth from not only rebuilding their own country, but for all of lazy ass Europe too.

The Germans have arguably seen times much harder than any of us, our parents, or our grandparents have known following WWI and WWII especially then, later, having to basically bail-out the former E. German nation.  I think that has inculcated something in their psyche which makes them different from the other lazy-asses in the EuroZone.
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The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
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The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: If we could just be more like Europe....
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2012, 07:45:23 PM »
I disagree.

Sarcasm.  You missed it.
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Re: If we could just be more like Europe....
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2012, 10:15:35 PM »
Sarcasm.  You missed it.

Yep.  You got me.  Ba-zinga.

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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson