Batman Movie Massacre

[Snaggletiger]

High him high. I bet the next fuckstick may think twice before pulling a stunt like that with innocent people. Maybe not, but it's a deterrent more times than not.

Why do you want him high?

[Tarheel]

Shit like this happens in the hippy dippy states. It does not happen in Texas (maybe Austin).

I guarantee you that there were at LEAST five legal handguns and probably one or two illegal ones at the last movie I saw.

These fuckers want to kill sheep. They don't pull stunts like this in places where there may be a wolf in sheep's clothing.  That should speak volumes to the pinkos who think gun control is a good idea.

But it won't.

I am reminded of the tragic and infuriating incident at Ft. Hood in 2009 where a crazed, Islamo-fascist Muzzie would ironically find unarmed US soldiers.  I don't think that "Major Hasan, the Soldier of Allah" has been hanged yet!

[Tiger Wench]

I am reminded of the tragic and infuriating incident at Ft. Hood in 2009 where a crazed, Islamo-fascist Muzzie would ironically find unarmed US soldiers.  I don't think that "Major Hasan, the Soldier of Allah" has been hanged yet!

Major Hasan had personal knowledge.  He knew that the processing center would be full of unarmed soldiers.  He did not try to shoot up the gun range.  He did not attack the MP barracks.  He chose a place where HE KNEW people would not be armed.  Same as this douche and the movie theater.

I think my example still holds water.

[Townhallsavoy]

Way to go ABC News:

Arlene Holmes, the mother of Colorado theater shooting suspect James Holmes, has suggested that ABC News mischaracterized her when it reported that her initial statement to the reporter, "you have the right person," was a reference to her son.

"This statement is to clarify a statement made by ABC media. I was awakened by a call from a reporter by ABC on July 20 about 5:45 in the morning. I did not know anything about a shooting in Aurora at that time," Holmes said in a statement this afternoon, read to the national press by attorney Lisa Damiani. "He asked if I was Arlene Holmes and if my son was James Holmes who lives in Aurora, Colorado. I answered yes, you have the right person. I was referring to myself."

(See also: Full coverage Colorado theater shooting)

"I asked him to tell me why he was calling and he told me about a shooting in Aurora," she continues. "He asked for a comment. I told him I could not comment because I did not know if the person he was talking about was my son, and I would need to find out."

In the first paragraph of its initial report on Friday, ABC News reported that it had identified the correct James Holmes because his mother "told ABC News her son was likely the alleged culprit, saying, 'You have the right person.'"

If Arlene Holmes' latest statement is true, it means that she did not tell ABC News her son was likely the alleged culprit, calling into question the reporting of a network that has already been marred by one inaccuracy.

(PHOTOS: Obama visits Aurora)

In the very same article, published on Friday, ABC News initially suggested that the suspect might have connections to the Colorado Tea Party Patriots. The report, based off a single web profile of a man with the same name, was inaccurate. ABC News and one of the reporters, Brian Ross, later apologized for the "mistake" in a statement that now tops the very same article in questsion.

Sources tell POLITICO that on an editorial conference call this morning, ABC News SVP James Goldston said the network is taking steps to ensure that incorrect reports such as Ross's do not happen again.

A spokesperson with ABC News told POLITICO that it will address Arlene Holmes' statement in a forthcoming blog post later this afternoon.

Developing...

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/holmes-mother-suggests-abc-news-mischaracterized-her-129835.html

[Vandy Vol]

Did anyone else hear about Mitt Romney shooting up that theater full of people?

[Tarheel]

Major Hasan had personal knowledge.  He knew that the processing center would be full of unarmed soldiers.  He did not try to shoot up the gun range.  He did not attack the MP barracks.  He chose a place where HE KNEW people would not be armed.  Same as this douche and the movie theater.

I think my example still holds water.

Perhaps.  But my broader point is that Texas is not immune to this type of attack given the perp knows a location where he can assault the unarmed...in the civilian world that'd probably Austin as you suggested...yes, I have actually lived in Texas for a while too.

[GH2001]

Perhaps.  But my broader point is that Texas is not immune to this type of attack given the perp knows a location where he can assault the unarmed...in the civilian world that'd probably Austin as you suggested...yes, I have actually lived in Texas for a while too.

Legislation wise, Texas is far from being one of the more conservative states in regards to regulation. Talked with a few people out there 3 weeks ago (a good friend + couple of Aggies actually) who personally told me they wish their laws in regards to regulation were as lax as they were here, Miss and SC. I'm just taking the guy's word for it, but he was an avid hunter and said the hunting and gun laws were a lot more liberal than they used to be because of Austin and that crowd up there. Still better than what you would find in the Northeast but far from perfect. Texas has slowly went in that direction lately going from being 60% for Bush in 2000 to now being a toss up state in the 2012 election with a slight Romney lean per Karl Rove (a Texas native). The electoral map in itself isn't quite as relevant but it does show a political shift in a southern state.

TW, annex Austin (and maybe San Antonio) now or they will ruin your state politically. Atlanta is almost doing the same thing to Ga to a lesser degree (regulation and taxes).

[AU_Tiger_2000]

I think David Petzal (shooting editor, Field and Stream) hits the nail on the head.

So now it is Aurora. Another homicidal geek has gotten his 15 minutes of fame via mass murder.

Amidst all the breast-beating, recriminations, and yowls for gun control, ammo control, and tactical equipment control, there are a number of questions that no one is bringing up. I think they should be asked.

The United States has always been a country in which guns of all types have been readily available. In the 1920s, Sears Roebuck sold Thompson submachine guns. After World War II, we were awash in military weapons. Yet Aurora and Columbine and Virginia Tech are all very recent. What’s changed?

http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/gun-nuts/2012/07/my-thoughts-aurora-co-shooting

What has changed is this: We seem to have finally succeeded in creating young men with no regard for human life. Probably there are not legions of them, but only one is too many. Their numbers cut across lines of race, education, and class. They shoot people, friends or strangers, singly or en masse, as casually as they slaughter in video games.

Maybe we’ve been in a few wars too many. Maybe our popular entertainment is too violent. Maybe our educational system has failed in this respect, as it has in many others. Maybe the news media should stop feasting on these horrors as vultures do on a carcass. Maybe it’s part of a general breakdown in society.

What are we going to do? No one has a clue. No one is even asking the question.

Guns are the least part of the equation. They are machines, and they do what their users want, no more no less. There is a line from the movie Full Metal Jacket that sums this up perfectly.

“Your rifle is only a tool. It is a hard heart that kills.”

There are more hard hearts out there, and we have no idea how to change them, so this is going to happen again.

[AUChizad]

I like Austin. I don't see how it's Haight-Ashbury like you guys seem to.

I don't have the numbers, but I feel like over 50% of Atlanta's either gay or black (NTTAWWT), and then add in just run-of-the-mill liberals, and I'd be very surprised if the polling demographics of Austin and Atlanta are that far apart.

[Snaggletiger]

I like Austin. I don't see how it's Haight-Ashbury like you guys seem to.

I don't have the numbers, but I feel like over 50% of Atlanta's either gay or black (NTTAWWT), and then add in just run-of-the-mill liberals, and I'd be very surprised if the polling demographics of Austin and Atlanta are that far apart.

So Sani's a black gay guy?  I thought that was just face paint.

[Tarheel]

I like Austin. I don't see how it's Haight-Ashbury like you guys seem to.

I don't have the numbers, but I feel like over 50% of Atlanta's either gay or black (NTTAWWT), and then add in just run-of-the-mill liberals, and I'd be very surprised if the polling demographics of Austin and Atlanta are that far apart.

When compared to the conservative demographics of Georgia and Texas outside of their respective capitals, the political demographics of their capitals are very liberal.  Perhaps compared to each other each capital may be about the same in my anecdotal opinion (having lived in both states) although they may not reach the enlightened progressiveness of Haight-Ashbury or Greenwich Village.

[GH2001]

I like Austin. I don't see how it's Haight-Ashbury like you guys seem to.

I don't have the numbers, but I feel like over 50% of Atlanta's either gay or black (NTTAWWT), and then add in just run-of-the-mill liberals, and I'd be very surprised if the polling demographics of Austin and Atlanta are that far apart.

They are not that far apart. Not at all actually. They both have 2 things in common too: Both are in traditionally conservative states that have gotten more liberal lately and both are full of people not from the native state (Atlanta with yankees and Austin with Berkely transplants). Austin IS weird and very progressive in the political context. I saw that in person about 3 weeks ago. Cool town, but it is very liberal in it's mindset and also happens to be the capital hence the change in legislation over the last decade or two. Just saying it doesn't quite fit the demographic of the rest of the state.

[Tarheel]

Legislation wise, Texas is far from being one of the more conservative states in regards to regulation. Talked with a few people out there 3 weeks ago (a good friend + couple of Aggies actually) who personally told me they wish their laws in regards to regulation were as lax as they were here, Miss and SC. I'm just taking the guy's word for it, but he was an avid hunter and said the hunting and gun laws were a lot more liberal than they used to be because of Austin and that crowd up there. Still better than what you would find in the Northeast but far from perfect. Texas has slowly went in that direction lately going from being 60% for Bush in 2000 to now being a toss up state in the 2012 election with a slight Romney lean per Karl Rove (a Texas native). The electoral map in itself isn't quite as relevant but it does show a political shift in a southern state.

TW, annex Austin (and maybe San Antonio) now or they will ruin your state politically. Atlanta is almost doing the same thing to Ga to a lesser degree (regulation and taxes).

The Nanny-State socialists who run Atlanta must be taking lessons from Bloomberg in that they just recently passed a city-wide smoking ban stricter than the statewide ban adopted a few years back but you probably heard about that already.  They'll be coming after our soda and salt next.  Of course Mayor Kasim Reed is also supporting the upcoming T-SPLOST transportation referendum which (and I cringe at citing him as a reference) Bob Barr has said is the largest tax increase in Georgia history.

[GH2001]

The Nanny-State socialists who run Atlanta must be taking lessons from Bloomberg in that they just recently passed a city-wide smoking ban stricter than the statewide ban adopted a few years back but you probably heard about that already.  They'll be coming after our soda and salt next.  Of course Mayor Kasim Reed is also supporting the upcoming T-SPLOST transportation referendum which (and I cringe at citing him as a reference) Bob Barr has said is the largest tax increase in Georgia history.

The smoking thing I see both sides of the fence on. Its an unusual topic and I do oppose it in many places because of the nature of the activity, not because of the nannny state reasom or because I think it's bad for you. Smoke travels via the air and has such a dynamic effect in regard to affecting others depending on conditions and proximity. As long as the smoke isn't getting in my face I could careless. I respect anyone's right to do something as long as it doesn't interfere with my right NOT to do it.

[Tarheel]

The smoking thing I see both sides of the fence on. Its an unusual topic and I do oppose it in many places because of the nature of the activity, not because of the nannny state reasom or because I think it's bad for you. Smoke travels via the air and has such a dynamic effect in regard to affecting others depending on conditions and proximity. As long as the smoke isn't getting in my face I could careless. I respect anyone's right to do something as long as it doesn't interfere with my right NOT to do it.

Off-topic I know; I'm always considerate and mindful of others when I have occasion to smoke but these draconian outdoor smoking bans are really getting beyond ridiculous.  If it's that bad then ban the product...end of story.  It's grown, manufactured, sold, and it's taxed, and then it's regulated to the point that one can't consume it anywhere.  This issue alone has almost pushed me into the Libertarian Party.

[GH2001]

This issue alone has almost pushed me into the Libertarian Party.

Same thing for me with the Patriot Act and the Federal Reserve. 2 things I wholeheartedly agree with Ron Paul/Gary Johnson on.

[Godfather]

Same thing for me with the Patriot Act and the Federal Reserve. 2 things I wholeheartedly agree with Ron Paul/Gary Johnson on.

[AWK]

Now, suck my cock.

[GH2001]

Thats just fucking scary

[Saniflush]

Now, suck my cock.

It's not about sex.  It's about trust.