Even More Coaching Rankings

[GH2001]

Here's the deal, pure and simple.  Chizik didn't win an NC, he bought one.  And to add to that, the player he bought needed no coaching.  He won it all by himself.  Cam could carry Rhode Island School for Blind and Crippled Girls to the BCS title.  So, no credit for coaching an NC team.  None. (BTDub, there are Auburn fans that believe this part too, and still are in the "the jury is still out on Chiz" train) And that drumbeat has been heard loud, clear, and constant since it happened.  And we all know who beats it most and loudest.  That bald headed, big eared fuck that sucks Sabinz cock and swallows ever drop, every day on the radio.  It's why in every fucking moronic "rank the coaches" list you see, he's listed below guys like James Franklin who can't manage a winning season at Vanderbilt.  Forget being listed below guys who haven't won an NC, he's listed behind a guy that doesn't have a winning season to his credit as a D1 coach.  And the cock sucker that put out theses lists actually think they're savvy about football, and that these rankings mean something.  Fuck every single one of them in da mouf with a green, slimy, oozing, infected donkey dick.  Every one of them is as dumb as the mouth breathing rednecks that call Fuckbaum every off season saying "Paaaawl, I dun studied on Aubren's scedul, n I kint fin no more n 4 wins Paaaaawl, whachoothank?  Hey, an Pawwwwl, dunchuthank dem aubz is gunna find out dat cheezdip is rally more like uh 5 n 19 coach than uh champyunchip coach Pawwwwl!"

Except there is still the part where Chiz's team just beat Spurriers' loaded team. This is the part that is important - we had a rebuilding year. We lost so many starters. He took our team on the road in the SEC for a night game against a very very talented and good SC team. That was coaching. He out coached Spurrier badly.  But somehow they think enough of the head ball coach to place him with the elite in the top 8 and Chiz doesn't even make the top 30? Bull fucking Shit. And it doesn't take a homer to see that.

[Godfather]

So our gutted '11 team beat one of the most stacked SC teams in recent memory in Columbia. Coached by a one Steve Spurrier. How many times has Spurrier beat Chizik again? How many MNC's does Spurrier have again?

With Lattimore, Jeffrey and Melvin Ingram, the visor still could not beat a gutted Auburn team in front of 80K in Columbia. An Auburn team coached by Gene Chizik. Yes, Spurrier at 8th and Chizik at 36th makes perfect fucking sense. What have you done for me lately? That's obviously not the case here.

I think Spurrier gets love because of the pedigree and to be honest he did turn that shit hole of a program around.  USCe was a perennial doormat till he got there.

[GH2001]

I think Spurrier gets love because of the pedigree and to be honest he did turn that shit hole of a program around.  USCe was a perennial doormat till he got there.

BS, Steve Tannyhill was the man!




And Gundy should be removed from the list just for this:

[JR4AU]

I think it's because he did it at a shithole of a football program like Vanderbilt.

I think that's why Spurrier still gets credit. That and his reputation from his Florida days.

I can see factoring a little of that in, but not to the extreme they did.

That's all true.  BTW I think Franklin is probably a pretty good coach, but hell I don't know.  Seriously though, if he'd gone eve 8-5 that would be worthy of high praise, but 6-7, even at Vandy is nothing to celebrate.  It's not like that's not been done.  Spurrier, OTOH, has won a NC, AND elevated the USCe program to heights they've never seen.  Spurrier is a damn fine football coach IMHO.

[JR4AU]

Except there is still the part where Chiz's team just beat Spurriers' loaded team. This is the part that is important - we had a rebuilding year. We lost so many starters. He took our team on the road in the SEC for a night game against a very very talented and good SC team. That was coaching. He out coached Spurrier badly.  But somehow they think enough of the head ball coach to place him with the elite in the top 8 and Chiz doesn't even make the top 30? Bull fucking Shit. And it doesn't take a homer to see that.

Agree with the bolded.  However...body of work vs one game.  Think about it.  I got no problem with Spurrier being ahead of Chiz on any coaches ranking.  That's not a negative on Chiz either.   As stated, this list, as a whole, is fucking stupid.  Some are ranked by the "what have you done lately" standard, while others are given credit for their entire body of work, while others still, are giving credit for "over achieving under adverse circumstances" even if that is with a losing record.  IOW, the list is totally subjective, and worthless.  My bet is a fair amount of these list are put out for the sole purpose of ranking Chiz so low that it stirs folks to talk, whether in agreement or disagreement.

[Snaggletiger]

Not ripping on Vanderbilt or Franklin for that matter.  Like JR said, he may be a great coach but who knows right now?  Obviously, we're going to debate where Chizik ranks among other coaches and it's the Franklin placement well above Chizik that blows my mind.  6-7 with the 6 wins coming against:

Elon
UConn
Ole Miss
Army
Kentucky
Wake Forrest

There's a common theme amongst those teams.  They're horrible! One season of coaching, a losing record and the 6 wins coming against those teams....and the poll puts him that far above Gene MF Chizik?   

[Godfather]

Agree with the bolded.  However...body of work vs one game.  Think about it.  I got no problem with Spurrier being ahead of Chiz on any coaches ranking.  That's not a negative on Chiz either.   As stated, this list, as a whole, is fucking stupid.  Some are ranked by the "what have you done lately" standard, while others are given credit for their entire body of work, while others still, are giving credit for "over achieving under adverse circumstances" even if that is with a losing record.  IOW, the list is totally subjective, and worthless.  My bet is a fair amount of these list are put out for the sole purpose of ranking Chiz so low that it stirs folks to talk, whether in agreement or disagreement.

agree...Cryer is still a whining crybaby bitch though.

[JR4AU]

agree...Cryer is still a whining crybaby bitch though.

Ok then.

[Townhallsavoy]

Not ripping on Vanderbilt or Franklin for that matter.  Like JR said, he may be a great coach but who knows right now?  Obviously, we're going to debate where Chizik ranks among other coaches and it's the Franklin placement well above Chizik that blows my mind.  6-7 with the 6 wins coming against:

Elon
UConn
Ole Miss
Army
Kentucky
Wake Forrest

There's a common theme amongst those teams.  They're horrible! One season of coaching, a losing record and the 6 wins coming against those teams....and the poll puts him that far above Gene MF Chizik?

Well he did almost not lose to Georgia, Arkansas, and Florida.  That trumps Gene Chizik's 5-19 record before he got to Auburn. 

Also don't forget that Vanderbilt is going to beat Auburn this season.  Auburn has maybe 4 wins on their schedule. 

[The Prowler]

I think Spurrier gets love because of the pedigree and to be honest he did turn that shit hole of a program around.  USCe was a perennial doormat till he got there.

...and they'll continue to be a doormat after the NCAA gets through with them (they've got many skeletons in that closet, they can thank Lou Holtz for a lot of them), whenever Spurrier retires there will be more stuff come up.

[AUChizad]

Yeah, more on "How the fuck is Spurrier 8 while Chizik is 36?" department...

Most of the Chizik hate is because he was a percieved cheater for paying Cam. Nevermind that it was proven to be false, and meanwhile Spurrier FUCKING WAS SANCTIONED BY THE NCAA FOR PAYING PLAYERS.

In what world does that make sense?

[Snaggletiger]

Yeah, more on "How the fuck is Spurrier 8 while Chizik is 36?" department...

Most of the Chizik hate is because he was a percieved cheater for paying Cam. Nevermind that it was proven to be false, and meanwhile Spurrier FUCKING WAS SANCTIONED BY THE NCAA FOR PAYING PLAYERS.

In what world does that make sense?

Haters, the whole lot of em'.

[Snaggletiger]

Did I miss Bobby Model-Fuckin' Petrino on that list?  Oh, wait.  I see.  He's #69

[AUChizad]

Did I miss Bobby Model-Fuckin' Petrino on that list?  Oh, wait.  I see.  He's #69

I went back and checked the list again, the 7th grader in me hoping desperately that that was true.

[Snaggletiger]

I went back and checked the list again, the 7th grader in me hoping desperately that that was true.

That would have been too good.

[JR4AU]

Yeah, more on "How the fuck is Spurrier 8 while Chizik is 36?" department...

Most of the Chizik hate is because he was a percieved cheater for paying Cam. Nevermind that it was proven to be false, and meanwhile Spurrier FUCKING WAS SANCTIONED BY THE NCAA FOR PAYING PLAYERS.

In what world does that make sense?

I already noted that the "Chiz Cheated" drumbeat was a big part.  The answer to your question, it's simple.  Spurrier's 'cheating' didn't result in a BCS Championship.

[AUChizad]

I already noted that the "Chiz Cheated" drumbeat was a big part.  The answer to your question, it's simple.  Spurrier's 'cheating' didn't result in a BCS Championship.

So, cheat and win it all: Shitty coach. Cheat and still lose: #8 Greatest coach in the country.

[Snaggletiger]

So, cheat and win it all: Shitty coach. Cheat and still lose: #8 Greatest coach in the country.

Welp, we've won a lot of ball games around here.

[JR4AU]

So, cheat and win it all: Shitty coach. Cheat and still lose: #8 Greatest coach in the country.

Ed Zachery

[Godfather]

I have a problem with Jeff Lebo being ranked 33.