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Even More Coaching Rankings
« on: May 10, 2012, 02:48:35 PM »
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1. Nick Saban, Alabama
Age: 60
2011 record: 12-1, 7-1 SEC
At Alabama (5 years): 50-12
FBS career (16 years): 141-54-1

The Nicktator has five BCS game wins under his belt, more than anyone else in the business, and his three national titles—two at Alabama in 2009 and 2011, and one at LSU in 2004—stand alone. We may be even more impressed by the Tide’s 28-4 SEC regular-season record over the past four seasons, during a run of outright superiority for the league that no conference has matched in college football history. This is an easy call for the top spot.

2. Chris Petersen, Boise State

Age: 47
2011 record: 12-1, 6-1 Mountain West
At Boise State (6 years): 73-6
FBS career: Same

But for the Broncos’ one-point loss at home to TCU last November, we’d have had to have thought long and hard about putting Petersen at No. 1. Just look at that insane .924 winning percentage. Just look at the essential road wins vs. Georgia and Virginia Tech the past two seasons while you’re at it. (And, of course, you won’t ever forget the Fiesta Bowl downing of Oklahoma in Petersen’s first season.) Coach Pete is the magic man.

3. Urban Meyer, Ohio State

Age: 47
2011 record: Did not coach
At Ohio State: First year
FBS career (10 years): 104-23

Many readers have been asking us since we released our Big Ten coaches rankings: How can Meyer be No. 1 in the league without having coached a game?

The question is—sorry—ridiculous. Something tells us the Urbmeister’s pair of BCS titles and 36-12 SEC regular-season record while at Florida hold up when compared with the rigors of the big, bad Big Ten. A few years ago, this was your hands-down No. 1 coach in college football.

4. Les Miles, LSU Age: 58
2011 record: 13-1, 8-0 SEC
At LSU (7 years): 75-18
FBS career (11 years): 103-39

Here’s another coach who, if he’d bested Saban for a second time last season in the national title game, might’ve had an undeniable argument for No. 1 in the college ranks. As it stands, Miles, who won it all in 2008, has won at least 11 games in five of his seven seasons at LSU, and his 41-15 SEC regular-season record is pretty well off the charts. And does fun count? Of course it does. Miles is more fun in late-game situations than anybody.

5. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma

Age: 51
2011 record: 10-3, 6-3 Big 12
At Oklahoma (13 years): 139-34
FBS career: Same

Let’s get this out of the way right now: Apart from the 2010 Fiesta Bowl laugher over Connecticut, “Big Game Bob” hasn’t won a BCS game in nine years. So his seven Big 12 championships don’t resonate? Stoops’ 96 victories over the nine seasons since his “heyday” don’t cut it? Please. Oklahoma is still a superpower.

6. Chip Kelly, Oregon

Age: 48
2011 record: 12-2, 8-1 Pac-12
At Oregon (3 years): 34-6
FBS career: Same

Not six years ago, Kelly was grinding through his 13th season on the staff at New Hampshire. Now he has three BCS appearances under his belt. If Eugene is the modern birthplace of cool in college football, Kelly is at least as big a reason why as Phil Knight. How well does it speak of his talent that the Ducks lost their quarterback and superstar running back from a Rose Bowl-winning 2011 squad and are expected by all of us to compete for a national title in 2012?

7. Gary Patterson, TCU

Age: 52
2011 record: 11-2, 7-0 Mountain West
At TCU (12 years): 109-30
FBS career: Same

How about that win on the blue turf in Boise last season? On the heels of a Rose Bowl-winning season, no less. TCU has won at least 11 games four years in a row and seven of the past nine. No coach in the country develops players better than Patterson. He gets his chance to bum-rush the Big 12 now, and we’re not betting against him.

8. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina
Age: 67
2011 record: 11-2, 6-2 SEC
At South Carolina (7 years): 55-35
FBS career (22 years): 197-75-2

So maybe Spurrier doesn’t work upward of 20 hours a day like, oh, that fella in Tuscaloosa, Ala., does. So what? The visored one has his own way of doing things, and it has led the Gamecocks to higher ground than they’ve possessed pretty much ever in the history of their program. We’re not forgetting the man’s virtuoso performance at Florida, either. He was great at Duke, too.

9. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech

Age: 65
2011 record: 11-3, 7-1 ACC
At Virginia Tech (25 years): 209-98-2
FBS career: Same

The man has won four ACC championships since claiming three in the Big East. Which is to say, no one in either league has done better. The phrase “Beamer Ball” is a bit of an insult to the Hokies coach, because his program is so much more than surprises and special-teams tricks. This is the best “old” coach without a national title.

10. Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State

Age: 44
2011 record: 12-1, 8-1 Big 12
At Oklahoma State (7 years): 59-30
FBS career: Same

Gundy is 44! now and fresh off the best season in program history. Even when he was 40! he was on the way—unbeknownst to many of us—to a run of improving the Cowboys’ overall and/or Big 12 record in every one of his seasons in Stillwater. With 41 victories over the past four years, Gundy has established his program—and himself—among the best in the game.

11. Bill Snyder, Kansas State
12. Bret Bielema, Wisconsin
13. Mark Dantonio, Michigan State
14. Mark Richt, Georgia
15. Bronco Mendenhall, BYU
16. Mack Brown, Texas
17. Mike Leach, Washington State
18. Brian Kelly, Notre Dame
19. Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech
20. Lane Kiffin, USC
21. Kyle Whittingham, Utah
22. June Jones, SMU
23. Chris Ault, Nevada
24. Brady Hoke, Michigan
25. James Franklin, Vanderbilt
26. Gary Pinkel, Missouri

27. Dabo Swinney, Clemson
28. Butch Jones, Cincinnati
29. Troy Calhoun, Air Force
30. Steve Sarkisian, Washington
31. Jim Grobe, Wake Forest
32. David Shaw, Stanford
33. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa
34. Al Golden, Miami
35. Ken Niumatalolo, Navy
36. Gene Chizik, Auburn
37. Bo Pelini, Nebraska
38. Jimbo Fisher, Florida State
39. Rich Rodriguez, Arizona
40. Charlie Weis, Kansas
41. Art Briles, Baylor
42. Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern
43. Frank Solich, Ohio
44. Dana Holgorsen, West Virginia
45. Mike London, Virginia
46. Dan Mullen, Mississippi State
47. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M

48. Paul Rhoads, Iowa State
49. Tom O'Brien, N.C. State
50. Tommy Tuberville, Texas Tech
51. Charlie Strong, Louisville
52. Larry Blakeney, Troy
53. Larry Fedora, North Carolina
54. Mario Cristobal, FIU
55. Mike Riley, Oregon State
56. Skip Holtz, South Florida
57. Jeff Tedford, Cal
58. Dave Christensen, Wyoming
59. Will Muschamp, Florida
60. Paul Pasqualoni, UConn
61. Sonny Dykes, Louisiana Tech
62. Bill O'Brien, Penn State
63. Bill Blankenship, Tulsa
64. Jerry Kill, Minnesota
65. Randy Edsall, Maryland
66. Dave Doeren, Northern Illinois
67. David Cutcliffe, Duke
68. Jim Mora, UCLA
69. Tim Beckman, Illinois
70. Gus Malzahn, Arkansas State
71. Dennis Franchione, Texas State
72. George O'Leary, UCF
73. Mark Hudspeth, Louisiana-Lafayette
74. John L. Smith, Arkansas
75. Todd Graham, Arizona State


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Re: Even More Coaching Rankings
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2012, 02:59:21 PM »
Sorry but I think more of Rhoads and Tedford to be at 48 and 57. I sure as hell think more of Chizik than 36. I'm not gonna go all homer and say he's Number 1 in all polls but shit man, 36???? WTF
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2012, 03:03:07 PM »
Can't really argue with the top 10 too much.  Lord Saybinz is the supreme being.  As for Peterson, I don't care where you're at, averaging just 1 loss a year over 6 years is damn fine work.  As much as I dislike Burban Cryer, he did rip it up at both Utah and UF.  Certainly, you could change out and swap a few but still, hard to argue. The only one really questionable to me is Spurrier.  I honestly don't believe he's a top 10 coach anymore.

Now, what the hell is up with the James Franklin love?  He's coached ONE year and had a 6-7 record.   
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2012, 03:15:31 PM »
Can't really argue with the top 10 too much.  Lord Saybinz is the supreme being.  As for Peterson, I don't care where you're at, averaging just 1 loss a year over 6 years is damn fine work.  As much as I dislike Burban Cryer, he did rip it up at both Utah and UF.  Certainly, you could change out and swap a few but still, hard to argue. The only one really questionable to me is Spurrier.  I honestly don't believe he's a top 10 coach anymore.

Now, what the hell is up with the James Franklin love?  He's coached ONE year and had a 6-7 record.

I am very very curious to see how Urban Cryer does at Ohio State.  Personally, I don't think he is that great of a coach.  Prior to UF he had only been at schools for no more than 2 years.  Meaning he was working with players he hadn't recruited. 

At UF I thought his best coaching year was when he won the MNC with both Chris Leak and Tebow.  If anyone rips Chiz for having the Supreme Athlete #2, I don't know how you cannot rip Cryer for having the son of Christ. 

I think the guy is a whiner and a quitter that couldn't hack it long term in the SEC.  He had his ass handed to him after SoC left and he cried my health and exited stage left.

Boooooooooooo I say....Booooooooooooooo
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2012, 03:23:12 PM »
I don't know how you cannot rip Cryer for having the son of Christ. 

Son of God, BROTHER of Christ.

Get it right
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2012, 03:39:52 PM »
This is why:  All crappy sports writers think in it was all Cam Newton, nothing to do with Chizik.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 03:49:13 PM »
I am very very curious to see how Urban Cryer does at Ohio State.  Personally, I don't think he is that great of a coach.  Prior to UF he had only been at schools for no more than 2 years.  Meaning he was working with players he hadn't recruited. 

At UF I thought his best coaching year was when he won the MNC with both Chris Leak and Tebow.  If anyone rips Chiz for having the Supreme Athlete #2, I don't know how you cannot rip Cryer for having the son of Christ. 

I think the guy is a whiner and a quitter that couldn't hack it long term in the SEC.  He had his ass handed to him after SoC left and he cried my health and exited stage left.

Boooooooooooo I say....Booooooooooooooo

All excellent points. 

As far as Spurrier goes, I go back many moons ago when he was dominating at UF.  Back before the intrawebz and Rivals became the big thing, we used to rely on recruitng mags and the preseason publications like Athlon for recruiting news.  I recall going over the incoming freshmen for Florida one year and the amazing thing about it was there was only one player out of approximately 25 recruits, that didn't have some kind of High School All American designation in his bio.  And that one was a back that AU desperately wanted. 

I started thinking damn, an All American center is snapping to an AA quarterback who drops back behind the protection of 5 AA linemen while he throws a pass to an AA wide receiver.  Oftentimes, there was no rhyme or reason behind his playcalling and in fact, it got him beat twice against AU.  It was just that everyone of his players were just a little faster, a little stronger, a little quicker...than everyone they faced. 

Now having said that, recruiting is a major part, if not the biggest part of a head coaches responsibilities.  Things like discrediting Chizik for winning strictly "Because of Cam" when the question is never asked, "Who the hell got him to Auburn?"  Spurriers recruiting fell off at UF and until recently, he hasn't done shit at USCe.  On the other hand, I think Chizik's recruitng is getting better and better each year whether the rankings bear it out or not.  While I still have some reservations, a big part of me says we can't help but be damn good if he keeps bringing in classes like these.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 03:52:46 PM »
And by the way, Tyler Nero is going to make Gene Chizik look damn good.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 04:34:31 PM »
In regards to this list...(Super Cam or not)

Chizik was the Head coach and deserves to be ranked above any coach that doesn't have an MNC.

This list is clearly based on what have you done for me lately, especially when Gundy is at #10.

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Re: Even More Coaching Rankings
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2012, 05:53:24 PM »
In regards to this list...(Super Cam or not)

Chizik was the Head coach and deserves to be ranked above any coach that doesn't have an MNC.

This list is clearly based on what have you done for me lately, especially when Gundy is at #10.


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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2012, 06:28:34 PM »
It took a lot of reads to make sense of this.

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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2012, 11:43:49 PM »
It took a lot of reads to make sense of this.

I still can't.  Chiz deserves to be higher than whoever hasn't won an NC, but not sure about Urban's ability blah blah blah.  Yeah, that makes a shitload of sense.
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2012, 01:12:58 AM »
I still can't.  Chiz deserves to be higher than whoever hasn't won an NC, but not sure about Urban's ability blah blah blah.  Yeah, that makes a shitload of sense.
I have already stated Chizik is my #1, and these lists are lame, however it's...

Not hard to comprehend, IMO a coach should be ranked higher if he has a MNC then someone who has not.  Is this not the goal of College Football to win a fucking trophy.  So those that haven't back of the list.

As far as Cryer, I don't care that you have a man crush on him. I don't think he deserves to be at #3. I never said where I would rank him in relation to Chizik that wasn't my point, I just think the guy gets a lot of credit for winning with other peoples players.  I also think that he is a fucking whinny crybaby who faked a fucking health problem because it was too hard to sustain winning in the SEC.   I want to go be with my kids...bullshit...if his fucking health is that bad due to coaching why is he at OSU.  I have no respect for the dude...none!

Finally in summation I said the list looked to me like a what have you done for me lately list.  Honestly I could give a shit about ranking these fucking coaches, but IMO Gundy and Kelly aren't better coaches then Chizik who has won a fucking MNC.

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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2012, 05:28:24 AM »
Let's see a HC that goes...

1st season (8-5) - just about everyone, except for most of the team's fans, were saying "I don't see any more than 6 wins."

2nd season (14-0) SEC West Champions, SEC Champions & NATIONAL CHAMPIONS - just about everyone, except for most of the team's fans, were saying "I don't see any more than 8 maybe 9 wins."

*The University and it's Ath. Dept. is being investigated for its recruitment of the starting QB during the 2nd season*

*After being raped over the coals, the University and it's Ath. Dept. is deemed innocent (eventhough 99% of the media proclaimed differently leading up to the NCAA's decision)*

3rd season (8-5) Around 90% of the starters, from the '10 National Championship team, graduated or left early - just about everyone, except for most of the team's fans, were saying "I don't see any more than 4 maybe 5 wins."

But yet, these "sports gurus" aren't going to put that HC in the top 25, instead they put Lame Kiffin and Brady Hoke (Michigan will get donkey punched by bama in the first game this year) up there? What a Absolute fucking joke.
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2012, 08:49:21 AM »
I have already stated Chizik is my #1, and these lists are lame, however it's...

Not hard to comprehend, IMO a coach should be ranked higher if he has a MNC then someone who has not.
  Is this not the goal of College Football to win a fucking trophy.  So those that haven't back of the list.

As far as Cryer, I don't care that you have a man crush on him. I don't think he deserves to be at #3. I never said where I would rank him in relation to Chizik that wasn't my point, I just think the guy gets a lot of credit for winning with other peoples players.  I also think that he is a fucking whinny crybaby who faked a fucking health problem because it was too hard to sustain winning in the SEC.   I want to go be with my kids...bullshit...if his fucking health is that bad due to coaching why is he at OSU.  I have no respect for the dude...none!

Finally in summation I said the list looked to me like a what have you done for me lately list.  Honestly I could give a shit about ranking these fucking coaches, but IMO Gundy and Kelly aren't better coaches then Chizik who has won a fucking MNC.

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Agree with the bolded part. The rest?  I'm sorry your wife screams out Urban's name at inappropriate times. 

But seriously dude, you seem upset.  Take it easy!  Too much caffine?  Nurse forget your meds?

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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2012, 10:16:45 AM »
So our gutted '11 team beat one of the most stacked SC teams in recent memory in Columbia. Coached by a one Steve Spurrier. How many times has Spurrier beat Chizik again? How many MNC's does Spurrier have again?

With Lattimore, Jeffrey and Melvin Ingram, the visor still could not beat a gutted Auburn team in front of 80K in Columbia. An Auburn team coached by Gene Chizik. Yes, Spurrier at 8th and Chizik at 36th makes perfect fucking sense. What have you done for me lately? That's obviously not the case here.
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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2012, 10:36:11 AM »
Now, what the hell is up with the James Franklin love?  He's coached ONE year and had a 6-7 record.

You shut your whorish mouth!
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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2012, 10:47:09 AM »
Now, what the hell is up with the James Franklin love?  He's coached ONE year and had a 6-7 record.
I think it's because he did it at a shithole of a football program like Vanderbilt.

I think that's why Spurrier still gets credit. That and his reputation from his Florida days.

I can see factoring a little of that in, but not to the extreme they did.
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2012, 10:54:50 AM »
I think it's because he did it at a shithole of a football program like Vanderbilt.

I think that's why Spurrier still gets credit. That and his reputation from his Florida days.

I can see factoring a little of that in, but not to the extreme they did.

And I am not sure what the criteria was for the list or if it was just a popularity contest, but should what he did at Fla factor in to how good of a coach he is RIGHT NOW? If we use that as a basis, then I would line up Peterson, Chizik and Saban and to me you couldn't go wrong with any of them. Of course personality wise Saban is a dick and a half, but I'm strictly talking overall football program picture. I'm not real high on Urban. He has done well with either a weak schedule or superstar players. His last year at UF? Loads of talent but no superstar to carry him, and he sucked balls.
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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2012, 11:05:57 AM »
So our gutted '11 team beat one of the most stacked SC teams in recent memory in Columbia. Coached by a one Steve Spurrier. How many times has Spurrier beat Chizik again? How many MNC's does Spurrier have again?

With Lattimore, Jeffrey and Melvin Ingram, the visor still could not beat a gutted Auburn team in front of 80K in Columbia. An Auburn team coached by Gene Chizik. Yes, Spurrier at 8th and Chizik at 36th makes perfect fucking sense. What have you done for me lately? That's obviously not the case here.

Here's the deal, pure and simple.  Chizik didn't win an NC, he bought one.  And to add to that, the player he bought needed no coaching.  He won it all by himself.  Cam could carry Rhode Island School for Blind and Crippled Girls to the BCS title.  So, no credit for coaching an NC team.  None. (BTDub, there are Auburn fans that believe this part too, and still are in the "the jury is still out on Chiz" train) And that drumbeat has been heard loud, clear, and constant since it happened.  And we all know who beats it most and loudest.  That bald headed, big eared fuck that sucks Sabinz cock and swallows ever drop, every day on the radio.  It's why in every fucking moronic "rank the coaches" list you see, he's listed below guys like James Franklin who can't manage a winning season at Vanderbilt.  Forget being listed below guys who haven't won an NC, he's listed behind a guy that doesn't have a winning season to his credit as a D1 coach.  And the cock sucker that put out theses lists actually think they're savvy about football, and that these rankings mean something.  Fuck every single one of them in da mouf with a green, slimy, oozing, infected donkey dick.  Every one of them is as dumb as the mouth breathing rednecks that call Fuckbaum every off season saying "Paaaawl, I dun studied on Aubren's scedul, n I kint fin no more n 4 wins Paaaaawl, whachoothank?  Hey, an Pawwwwl, dunchuthank dem aubz is gunna find out dat cheezdip is rally more like uh 5 n 19 coach than uh champyunchip coach Pawwwwl!"
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