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Re: War on Women
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2012, 03:33:50 PM »
That is amusing.  I was reading the bios of the Staff of "BlameAmerikunOil dot com" and not surprised to find their backgrounds in "Friends of the Earth" (weren't they the terrorist organization that was spiking trees in Pacific NW?), Greenpeace International, Greenpeace UK, UN Framework on Global Climate Change, Montreal Protocol, EarthRights Intl., etc.  I'm sure these folk have absolutely no agenda in discrediting Ms. Rosen or BP.
Well, trees have feelings too!  You damn fascist!!! 

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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

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Re: War on Women
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2012, 03:43:32 PM »
Well, trees have feelings too!  You damn fascist!!! 
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-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2012, 03:46:31 PM »
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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: War on Women
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2012, 04:09:22 PM »

Die Hippie, Die!
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And, if you don't deal with it quickly...
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154822/college-know-it-all-hippies
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

Re: War on Women
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2012, 04:21:51 PM »
Comical that she releases the apology after Biden calls her comment outrageous.
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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2012, 04:22:51 PM »

And, if you don't deal with it quickly...
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The college-know-it-all-hippie with the guitar somewhat resembles a cartoon Chiz.   :thumsup:

I could not help but laugh at the bumper stickers on the car; the little "Darwin-ized" Christian fish symbol and a sticker reading:  "MY KARMA RAN OVER YOUR DOGMA"
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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: War on Women
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2012, 04:24:21 PM »
Comical that she releases the apology after Biden calls her comment outrageous.
Nevermind the fact that 50+% of what that moron says is equally outrageous... 
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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Re: War on Women
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2012, 04:28:46 PM »
The college-know-it-all-hippie with the guitar somewhat resembles a cartoon Chiz.   :thumsup:

I could not help but laugh at the bumper stickers on the car; the little "Darwin-ized" Christian fish symbol and a sticker reading:  "MY KARMA RAN OVER YOUR DOGMA"
Somewhat? 
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2012, 04:30:22 PM »
Somewhat?

I was trying to play nice; I didn't want to cause any hurt feelings.
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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2012, 04:33:39 PM »
Comical that she releases the apology after Biden calls her comment outrageous.

Slow Joe probably thinks the apology is due solely to his condemnation.
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The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. 
-Ayn Rand

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
-The Right Honourable Margaret Thatcher

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
-Milton Friedman

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
-Ronald Reagan

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

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Re: War on Women
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2012, 04:43:06 PM »
I was trying to play nice; I didn't want to cause any hurt feelings.
Fuck'em... 
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2012, 10:34:06 PM »
http://priceofoil.org/2010/06/17/it%E2%80%99s-time-for-the-truth-tony/

I bet you don't believe that thousands of barrels of oil seep naturally in to the oceans through the ocean floor every day.  Oil is a naturally occurring substance, and nature is equipped to deal with it.  But, if BP lets some loose, it's a "disaster" because the moonbats scream and holler that it is.
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« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2012, 10:56:36 PM »
I bet you don't believe that thousands of barrels of oil seep naturally in to the oceans through the ocean floor every day.  Oil is a naturally occurring substance, and nature is equipped to deal with it.  But, if BP lets some loose, it's a "disaster" because the moonbats scream and holler that it is.
:facepalm:

Yeah, the beaches of the gulf were great to swim in that summer. The seafood industry really have just been a bunch of beta males these last two years...
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« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2012, 11:06:38 PM »
:facepalm:

Yeah, the beaches of the gulf were great to swim in that summer. The seafood industry really have just been a bunch of beta males these last two years...

I figured facts wouldn't persuade you. 
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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2012, 09:31:24 AM »
I figured facts wouldn't persuade you.

Look man, this might be Chizad. But he's our Chizad. You know how he works - and that is off feelings and emotion. Work with him here. We're all familiar.
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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2012, 09:46:23 AM »
I figured facts wouldn't persuade you.
Facts...Yeah...BP let "some" loose.

4.9 million barrels. About 205.8 million gallons.

Exactly as nature intended.

I want to ignore shit like this, but you people just invent your own reality some times, and then say I'm delusional. It's maddening.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill

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The spill is the "worst environmental disaster the US has faced", according to White House energy adviser Carol Browner.[242] Indeed, the spill was by far the largest in US history, almost 20 times greater than the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[243] Factors such as petroleum toxicity, oxygen depletion and the use of Corexit dispersant are expected to be the main causes of damage.[244][245] Eight U.S. national parks are threatened.[246] More than 400 species that live in the Gulf islands and marshlands are at risk, including the endangered Kemp's Ridley turtle, the Green Turtle, the Loggerhead Turtle, the Hawksbill Turtle, and the Leatherback Turtle. In the national refuges most at risk, about 34,000 birds have been counted, including gulls, pelicans, roseate spoonbills, egrets, terns, and blue herons.[72] A comprehensive 2009 inventory of offshore Gulf species counted 15,700. The area of the oil spill includes 8,332 species, including more than 1,200 fish, 200 birds, 1,400 molluscs, 1,500 crustaceans, 4 sea turtles, and 29 marine mammals.[247][248] As of November 2, 2010, 6,814 dead animals had been collected, including 6,104 birds, 609 sea turtles, 100 dolphins and other mammals, and 1 other reptile.[249][250] According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, cause of death had not been determined as of late June. According to NOAA, since January 1, 2011, 67 dead dolphins have been found in the area affected by the oil spill, with 35 of them premature or newborn calves. The cause is under investigation.[251]

In May 2010, Duke University marine biologist Larry Crowder said threatened loggerhead turtles on Carolina beaches could swim out into contaminated waters. Ninety percent of North Carolina's commercially valuable sea life spawn off the coast and could be contaminated if oil reaches the area. Douglas Rader, a scientist for the Environmental Defense Fund, said prey could be negatively affected as well. Steve Ross of UNC-Wilmington said coral reefs could be smothered.[252] In early June Harry Roberts, a professor of Coastal Studies at Louisiana State University, stated that 4,000,000 barrels (640,000 m3) of oil would be enough to "wipe out marine life deep at sea near the leak and elsewhere in the Gulf" as well as "along hundreds of miles of coastline." Mak Saito, an Associate Scientist at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts indicated that such an amount of oil "may alter the chemistry of the sea, with unforeseeable results."[253] Samantha Joye of the University of Georgia indicated that the oil could harm fish directly, and microbes used to consume the oil would also reduce oxygen levels in the water.[254] According to Joye, the ecosystem could require years or even decades to recover, as previous spills have done.[255] Oceanographer John Kessler estimated that the crude gushing from the well contained approximately 40% methane by weight, compared to about 5% found in typical oil deposits.[256] Methane could potentially suffocate marine life and create dead zones where oxygen is depleted.[256] Also oceanographer Dr. Ian MacDonald at Florida State University believes that the natural gas dissolving below the surface has the potential to reduce the Gulf oxygen levels and emit benzene and other toxic compounds.[69][257] In early July, researchers discovered two new previously unidentified species of bottom-dwelling pancake batfish of the Halieutichthys genus, in the area affected by the oil spill.[258] Damage to the ocean floor is yet unknown.[227] In particular was the Louisiana pancake batfish, whose range is entirely contained within the area affected by the spill.[259]

In late July 2010, Tulane University scientists found signs of an oil-and-dispersant mix under the shells of tiny blue crab larvae in the Gulf, indicating that the use of dispersants had broken the oil into droplets small enough to easily enter the food chain. Marine biologists from the University of Southern Mississippi's Gulf Coast Research Laboratory found "orange blobs" under the shells of crab larvae "in almost all" of the larvae they collected from over 300 miles (480 km) of coastline stretching from Grand Isle, Louisiana, to Pensacola, Florida.[245]

On September 29, 2010, Oregon State University researchers announced the oil spill waters contain carcinogens. The team had found sharply heightened levels of chemicals in the waters off the coast of Louisiana in August, the last sampling date, even after BP successfully capped its well in mid-July. Near Grand Isle, Louisiana, the team discovered that polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons or PAHs, which are often linked to oil spills and include carcinogens and chemicals that pose various risks to human health, remained at levels 40 times higher than before the oil spill. Researchers said the compounds may enter the food chain through organisms like plankton or fish. The PAH chemicals are most concentrated in the area near the Louisiana Coast, but levels have also jumped 2 to 3 fold in other spill-affected areas off Alabama, Mississippi and Florida. As of August, PAH levels remained near those discovered while the oil spill was still flowing heavily.[260] Kim Anderson, an OSU professor of environmental and molecular toxicology, said that based on the findings of other researchers, she suspects that the abundant use of dispersants by BP increased the bioavailability of the PAHs in this case. "There was a huge increase of PAHs that are bio-available to the organisms – and that means they can essentially be uptaken by organisms throughout the food chain." Anderson added that exactly how many of these toxic compounds ended up in the food chain was beyond her area of research.[261]

On October 22, 2010, it was reported that miles-long strings of weathered oil had been sighted moving toward marshes on the Mississippi River delta. Hundreds of thousands of migrating ducks and geese spend the winter in this delta.[262]

Researchers reported in early November 2010 that toxic chemicals at levels high enough to kill sea animals extended deep underwater soon after the BP oil spill. Terry Wade of Texas A&M University, Steven Lohrenz of the University of Southern Mississippi and Stennis Space Center found evidence of the chemicals as deep as 3,300 feet (1,000 m) and as far away as 8 miles (13 km) in May, and say the spread likely worsened as more oil spilled. The chemicals (PAHs), they said, can kill animals right away in high enough concentrations and can cause cancer over time. "From the time that these observations were made, there was an extensive release of additional oil and dispersants at the site. Therefore, the effects on the deep sea ecosystem may be considerably more severe than supported by the observations reported here," the researchers wrote in the journal Geophysical Research Letters. They added that PAHs include a group of compounds, and different types were at different depths, and said "It is possible they dissipate quickly, but no one has yet showed this".[263]

In November 2010, federally funded scientists found damage to deep sea coral several miles from BP's Macondo well. While tests are needed to verify that the coral died from the well, expedition leader Charles Fisher, a biologist with Penn State University, said, "There is an abundance of circumstantial data that suggests that what happened is related to the recent oil spill." According to the Associated Press, this discovery indicated that the spill's ecological consequences may be greater than what officials have said. Previous federal teams have stated that they found no damage on the ocean floor.[264] "We have never seen anything like this," Fisher added. "The visual data for recent and ongoing death are crystal clear and consistent over at least 30 colonies; the site is close to the Deepwater Horizon; the research site is at the right depth and direction to have been impacted by a deep-water plume, based on NOAA models and empirical data; and the impact was detected only a few months after the spill was contained."[265]

A Coast Guard report released on December 17, 2010, said that little oil remained on the sea floor except within a mile and a half of the well. The report said that since August 3, only 1% of water and sediment samples had pollution above EPA-recommended limits. Charlie Henry of NOAA warned even small amounts of oil could cause "latent, long-term chronic effects". And Ian R. MacDonald of Florida State University said even where the government claimed to find little oil, "We went to the same place and saw a lot of oil. In our samples, we found abundant dead animals."[266]

In February 2011, the first birthing season for dolphins since the spill, the director of the Institute for Marine Mammal Studies in Gulfport reported that dead baby dolphins were washing up along the Mississippi and Alabama shorelines at about 10 times the normal number for the first two months of the year. "For some reason, they’ve started aborting or they were dead before they were born; the average is one or two a month. This year we have 17 and February isn’t even over yet.” It is not yet certain if the deaths are related to the oil spill.[267]

From mid-January to late March 2011, scientists counted almost 200 dead dolphins in the Gulf, with another 90 in 2010. After investigating the deaths, NOAA put a gag order on the results, saying that the research is part of a criminal investigation of the oil spill. Numerous independent scientists said they have been "personally rebuked by federal officials for speaking out of turn to the media about efforts to determine the cause" of the deaths.[268] A study published in the journal Conservation Letters[269] showed the actual number of mammal deaths due to the spill may be as much as 50 times higher than the number of recovered carcasses. "The Deepwater oil spill was the largest in US history, however, the recorded impact on wildlife was relatively low, leading to suggestions that the environmental damage of the disaster was actually modest. This is because reports have implied that the number of carcasses recovered... equals the number of animals killed by the spill." said Rob Williams from the University of British Columbia.[270]

In April 2011, one year from the onset of the spill, scientists confirmed that they had discovered oil on dead dolphins found along the Gulf Coast. Fifteen of the 406 dolphins that had washed ashore in the last 14 months had oil on their bodies; the oil found on eight of them was linked to the April 2010 BP oil spill. A NOAA spokesperson stated,"It is significant that even a year after the oil spill we are finding oil on the dolphins, the latest just two weeks ago."[271]
[edit] Fisheries
June 21, 2010 National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration map of the Gulf of Mexico showing the areas closed to fishing.
As of June 21, 2010, the area closed to fishing encompassed 86,985 square miles (225,290 km²), or about 36% of Gulf of Mexico federal waters.

In BP's Initial Exploration Plan, dated March 10, 2009, it said that "it is unlikely that an accidental spill would occur" and "no adverse activities are anticipated" to fisheries or fish habitat.[45] On April 29, 2010, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal declared a state of emergency in the state after weather forecasts predicted the oil slick would reach the Louisiana coast.[272] An emergency shrimping season was opened on April 29 so that a catch could be brought in before the oil advanced too far.[273] By April 30, the Coast Guard received reports that oil had begun washing up to wildlife refuges and seafood grounds on the Louisiana Gulf Coast.[274] On May 22, The Louisiana Seafood Promotion and Marketing Board stated said 60 to 70% of oyster and blue crab harvesting areas and 70 to 80% of fin-fisheries remained open.[275] The Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals closed an additional ten oyster beds on May 23, just south of Lafayette, Louisiana, citing confirmed reports of oil along the state's western coast.[276]

On May 2, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration closed commercial and recreational fishing in affected federal waters between the mouth of the Mississippi River and Pensacola Bay. The closure initially incorporated 6,814 square miles (17,650 km²).[277][278] By June 21, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration had increased the area under closure over a dozen times, encompassing by that date 86,985 square miles (225,290 km²), or approximately 36% of Federal waters in the Gulf of Mexico, and extending along the coast from Atchafalaya Bay, Louisiana to Panama City, Florida.[279][280] On May 24, the federal government declared a fisheries disaster for the states of Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana.[281] Initial cost estimates to the fishing industry were $2.5 billion.[274]

On June 23, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration ended its fishing ban in 8,000 square miles (21,000 km²), leaving 78,597 square miles (203,570 km²) with no fishing allowed,[282] or about one-third of the Gulf. The continued fishing ban helps assure the safety of seafood, and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration inspectors have determined that as of July 9, Kevin Griffis of the Commerce Department said, only one seafood sample out of 400 tested did not pass, though even that one did not include "concerning levels of contaminants".[283] On August 10, Jane Lubchenco of NOAA said no one had seen oil in a 8,000 square miles (21,000 km2) area east of Pensacola since July 3, so the fishing ban in that area was being lifted.[284]

On August 31, a Boston lab hired by the United Commercial Fishermen's Association to analyze coastal fishing waters said it found dispersant in a seafood sample taken near Biloxi, Miss., almost a month after BP said it had stopped using the chemical.[285]

According to the European Space Agency, the agency's satellite data was used by the Ocean Foundation to conclude that 20% of the juvenile bluefin tuna were killed by oil in the gulf's most important spawning area. The foundation combined satellite data showing the oil spill extent each week with data on weekly tuna spawning to make their conclusion. The agency also said that the loss of juvenile tuna was significant due to the 82% decline of the tuna's spawning stock in the western Atlantic during the 30 years before the oil spill.[286]

The waters had been reopened to fishing on November 15, 2010,[287] but on November 24 NOAA re-closed 4,200 square miles (11,000 km²) area to shrimping.[288] A Florida TV station sent frozen Gulf shrimp to be tested for petroleum by-products after recent reports showed scientists disagreed on whether it is safe to eat after the oil spill.[289] A private lab found levels of Anthracene, a toxic hydrocarbon and a by-product of petroleum, at twice the levels the FDA finds acceptable.[290][291] On April 20, NOAA reopened 1,041 square miles (2,700 km2) of Gulf waters immediately surrounding the Deepwater Horizon wellhead to commercial and recreational fishing of fish, oysters, crabs and shrimp after testing results found that 99 percent of samples contained no detectable dispersant residues or oil-related compounds, and the few samples that did contain residues showed levels more than 1000 times lower than FDA levels of concern. This is the twelfth and final reopening in federal waters since July 22, and opens all the formerly closed areas in Federal waters.[292]

In July 2011 BP released a report[293] claiming that the economy had recovered and there was no reason to believe that anyone would suffer future losses from the spill, with the limited exception of oyster harvesters. However, Bruce Guerra, a crab fisherman in Louisiana for 25 years, said that since the BP oil spill crabbers are trapping 75 percent fewer crabs and that "crabs have been coming up dead, discolored, or riddled with holes since last year's spill". Others in the fishing industry say it could take years to fully realize the spill's effects. "The problem is right when they used the dispersants, that's when the tuna came to the Gulf to spawn," said Cheril Carey, a national sales representative for a Louisiana company specializing in yellow fin tuna. "It takes a tuna five to 15 years to mature. So although we may have fish now, we may not have them in five to 15 years."[294]
[edit] Tourism

Although many people cancelled their vacations due to the spill, hotels close to the coasts of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama reported dramatic increases in business during the first half of May 2010. However, the increase was likely due to the influx of people who had come to work with oil removal efforts. Jim Hutchinson, assistant secretary for the Louisiana Office of Tourism, called the occupancy numbers misleading, but not surprising. "Because of the oil slick, the hotels are completely full of people dealing with that problem," he said. "They're certainly not coming here as tourists. People aren't sport fishing, they aren't buying fuel at the marinas, they aren't staying at the little hotels on the coast and eating at the restaurants."[295]

On May 25, BP gave Florida $25 million to promote the beaches where the oil had not reached, and the company planned $15 million each for Alabama, Louisiana, and Mississippi. The Bay Area Tourist Development Council bought digital billboards showing recent photos from the gulf coast beaches as far north as Nashville, Tennessee and Atlanta. Along with assurances that the beaches were so far unaffected, hotels cut rates and offered deals such as free golf. Also, cancellation policies were changed, and refunds were promised to those where oil may have arrived. However, revenues remained below 2009 levels.[295][296]

The U.S. Travel Association estimated that the economic impact of the oil spill on tourism across the Gulf Coast over a three-year period could exceed approximately $23 billion, in a region that supports over 400,000 travel industry jobs generating $34 billion in revenue annually.[297][298]

On November 1, BP announced plans to spend $78 million to help Louisiana tourism and test and advertise seafood.[299]
[edit] Other economic consequences

On July 5, 2010, BP reported that its own expenditures on the oil spill had reached $3.12 billion, including the cost of the spill response, containment, relief well drilling, grants to the Gulf states, claims paid, and federal costs.[300] The United States Oil Pollution Act of 1990 limits BP's liability for non-cleanup costs to $75 million unless gross negligence is proven.[301] BP has said it would pay for all cleanup and remediation regardless of the statutory liability cap. Nevertheless, some Democratic lawmakers sought to pass legislation that would increase the liability limit to $10 billion.[302][303] Analysts for Swiss Re have estimated that the total insured losses from the accident could reach $3.5 billion. According to UBS, final losses could be $12 billion.[304] According to Willis Group Holdings, total losses could amount to $30 billion, of which estimated total claims to the market from the disaster, including control of well, re-drilling, third-party liability and seepage and pollution costs, could exceed $1.2 billion.[305]

On June 25, BP's market value reached a 1-year low. The company's total value lost since April 20 was $105 billion. Investors saw their holdings in BP shrink to $27.02, a nearly 54% loss of value in 2010.[306] A month later, the company's loss in market value totalled $60 billion, a 35% decline since the explosion. At that time, BP reported a second-quarter loss of $17 billion, its first loss in 18 years. This included a one-time $32.2 billion charge, including $20 billion for the fund created for reparations and $2.9 billion in actual costs.[307]

BP announced that it was setting up a new unit to oversee management of the oil spill and its aftermath, to be headed by former TNK-BP chief executive Robert Dudley,[308] who a month later was named CEO of BP.[307]

On October 1, BP pledged as collateral all royalties from the Thunder Horse, Atlantis, Mad Dog, Great White, Mars, Ursa, and Na Kika fields in the Gulf of Mexico. At that time, BP also said that it had spent $11.2 billion, while the company's London Stock Exchange price reached 439.75 pence, the highest point since May 28.[309]

By the end of September, BP reported that it had spent $11.2 billion. Third-quarter profit of $1.79 billion (compared to $5.3 billion in 2009) showed, however, that BP continued to do well and should be able to pay total costs estimated at $40 billion.[299]

BP gas stations, the majority of which the company does not own, reported sales off between 10 and 40% due to backlash against the company. Some BP station owners that lost sales said the name should change back to Amoco, while others said after all the effort that went into promoting BP, such a move would be a gamble, and the company should work to restore its image.[310]

Local officials in Louisiana expressed concern that the offshore drilling moratorium imposed in response to the spill would further harm the economies of coastal communities.[311] In a 2010 news story, The Christian Science Monitor reported, "The oil industry employs about 58,000 Louisiana residents and has created another 260,000 oil-related jobs, accounting for about 17% of all Louisiana jobs."[311] BP agreed to allocate $100 million for payments to offshore oil workers who were unemployed due to the six-month moratorium on drilling in the deep-water Gulf of Mexico.[140]

The real estate prices and a number of transactions in the Gulf of Mexico area decreased significantly during the period of the oil spill. As a result, area officials wanted the state legislature to allow property tax to be paid based on current market value, which according to State Rep. Dave Murzin could mean millions of dollars in losses for each county affected.[312]

The Organization for International Investment, a Washington-based advocate for overseas investment into the U.S., warned in early July that the political rhetoric surrounding the disaster was potentially damaging the reputation of all British companies with operations in the U.S.[313] and sparked a wave of U.S. protectionism that restricted British firms from winning government contracts, making political donations and lobbying.

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On May 29, 2010, ten oil spill clean-up workers had been admitted to West Jefferson Medical Center in Marrero, Louisiana. All but two had been hospitalized suffering from symptoms emergency room doctors diagnosed as dehydration. At a press briefing about the May 26 medical evacuation of seven crewmembers from Vessels of Opportunity working in the Breton Sound area, Coast Guard Captain Meredith Austin, Unified Command Deputy Incident Commander in Houma, LA, said that air monitoring done before beginning work showed no volatile organic compounds above limits of concern. No respiratory protection was issued, said Austin "because air ratings were taken and there were no values found to be at an unsafe level, prior to us sending them in there."[323]

On June 15, Marylee Orr, Executive Director for Louisiana Environmental Action Network (LEAN),[324] said on MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann that people along the Gulf Coast were getting very sick, with symptoms of dizziness, vomiting, nausea, headaches, and chest pains, not only from the first responders to the crisis, but residents living along the coast as well. LEAN's director reported that BP had threatened to fire their workers if they used respirators distributed by LEAN, though health and safety officials had not required their use, as they may exacerbate risks of heat exhaustion.[325][326] By June 21, 143 oil spill exposure cases had been reported to the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals (DHH) since the crisis began; 108 of those cases involved workers in the oil spill clean-up efforts, while thirty-five were reported by the general public.[327]

The Institute of Medicine of the U. S. National Academies held a workshop to assess known health effects of this and previous oil spills and to coordinate epidemiological monitoring and ongoing medical research. The Louisiana state health officer Jimmy Guidry stated that need as: “This is more than a spill. This is ongoing leakage of a chemical, and adding chemicals to stop the chemicals. We're feeling like we're in a research lab."[328][329] On the second day of the meeting the suicide of William Allen Kruse, a charter boat captain working as a BP clean-up worker,[330] intensified previous expert commentary on the current and likely long-term mental health effects of the ongoing crisis. David Abramson, director of research for Columbia's National Center for Disaster Preparedness, noted the increased risk of mental disorders and stress-related health problems.[331][332] On August 10, the Institute of Medicine released a Workshop Summary: Assessing the Effects of the Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill on Human Health.

Chemicals from the oil and dispersant are believed to be the cause of illness reported by people who live along the Gulf of Mexico. According to chemist Bob Naman, the addition of dispersants created an even more toxic substance when mixed with crude oil. According to Naman, poly-aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) are making people sick. PAHs contain compounds that have been identified as carcinogenic, mutagenic, and teratogenic. "The dispersants are being added to the water and are causing chemical compounds to become water soluble, which is then given off into the air, so it is coming down as rain, in addition to being in the water and beaches of these areas of the Gulf," Naman said, and added "I’m scared of what I'm finding. These cyclic compounds intermingle with the Corexit dispersant and generate other cyclic compounds that aren't good. Many have double bonds, and many are on the EPA's danger list. This is an unprecedented environmental catastrophe." Dr. Riki Ott has been working with oil-spill related illness since the Exxon Valdez. She is working in the Gulf and says: "People are already dying from this... I’m dealing with three autopsies' right now. I don’t think we’ll have to wait years to see the effects like we did in Alaska, people are dropping dead now. I know two people who are down to 4.75 per cent of their lung capacity, their heart has enlarged to make up for that, and their esophagus is disintegrating, and one of them is a 16-year-old boy who went swimming in the Gulf."[333][334] According to Mississippi Riverkeeper of the Waterkeeper Alliance, blood samples from eight individuals from Florida (Pensacola) and Alabama, male and female, residents and BP cleanup workers “were analyzed for volatile solvents and all came back with ethylbenzene and m,p-xylene in excess of 95th percentile values of 0.11 ppb for ethylbenzene and 0.34 ppb for m,p-xylene.” The highest concentration value was four times the 95th percentile. “The blood of all three females and five males had chemicals that are found in the BP crude oil”, the report went on to say.[335]

Blah blah blah, hippies, blah blah blah, "feelings", blah blah beta blah blah.
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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2012, 10:02:18 AM »
Facts...Yeah...BP let "some" loose.

4.9 million barrels. About 205.8 million gallons.

Exactly as nature intended.

I want to ignore shit like this, but you people just invent your own reality some times, and then say I'm delusional. It's maddening.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill

Blah blah blah, hippies, blah blah blah, "feelings", blah blah beta blah blah.

To play a little devil's advocate, the words "worst disaster in US history" was coined by a WH Energy Adviser. That's like a WH Economic Adviser saying Obamacare would save us money when every other economist on Earth that is halfway objective said otherwise. I think the spill was bad, but nothing like they made it out to be. It was cleaned up much better than many thought it ever would be. This happened via lack of oversight of existing rules and inspections for deep water rigs, by both the Bush and Obama administrations which flows from the top down. Of course there had to be a scapegoat, so the admin promptly aimed at the Dept of MMS Chairwoman (in charge of enforcing rules for these shelf rigs) and BP. If you are looking for a true root cause and not just a symptom, then you need to look squarely at the govt. BP's shenanigans were merely a symptom of the "Cat's away, the mice will play". They were allowed to be negligent when they should not have been.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/27/AR2010052703302.html

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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2012, 10:16:09 AM »
Facts...Yeah...BP let "some" loose.

4.9 million barrels. About 205.8 million gallons.

Exactly as nature intended.

I want to ignore shit like this, but you people just invent your own reality some times, and then say I'm delusional. It's maddening.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill

Blah blah blah, hippies, blah blah blah, "feelings", blah blah beta blah blah.

You actually do ignore shit like this: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/view.php?id=20863
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Twice an Exxon Valdez spill worth of oil seeps into the Gulf of Mexico every year, according to a new study that will be presented January 27 at the Ocean Sciences Meeting in San Antonio, Texas.

But the oil isn't destroying habitats or wiping out ocean life. The ooze is a natural phenomena that's been going on for many thousands of years, according to Roger Mitchell, Vice President of Program Development at the Earth Satellite Corporation (EarthSat) in Rockville Md. "The wildlife have adapted and evolved and have no problem dealing with the oil," he said.

Oil that finds its way to the surface from natural seeps gets broken down by bacteria and ends up as carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas.

And this: http://www.mysanantonio.com/life/life_columnists/article/Natural-leaks-emit-oil-into-the-Gulf-of-Mexico-778985.php

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In 1973, the Texas A&M group published a report that related early accounts of natural oil seepage in the Gulf. For example, the Karankawas along the Texas coast used tar washed up on beaches to line their baskets and pots. The men of the de Soto expedition used tar to caulk some of their boats.

The report noted that charts issued by the U.S. Coast and Geodetic Survey from 1902 to 1909 depicted significant oil slicks 100 miles south of the Louisiana coast. In 1909, a plume of oil was reported to be spouting into the air from near the Texas-Louisiana coast and ponds of floating oil were reported off Sabine Pass.

Natural oil seeps still exist in the Gulf, and you can sometimes see evidence of them along Padre Island in the form of small lumps and larger pads of sticky, black goo. This is the tar left behind after oil seeping from the floor of the Gulf floats to the surface, where its volatile compounds quickly evaporate.

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/life/life_columnists/article/Natural-leaks-emit-oil-into-the-Gulf-of-Mexico-778985.php#ixzz1rvfbymiC


God made oil, not man.  It's part of our environment.  That is not to say it can't cause damage or that man needs to be releasing more in to the environment than God intended, but nature has a way to deal with it.   It would be ideal if BP or Exxon wouldn't spill extra in to the oceans or Gulf.  Is there an negative impact on the environment?  Yes, but it's not nearly as extensive as the moonbats want you to believe, and it's far shorter lived than they want you to know.  However, if you think the raving moonbats, who are ignorant as hell about the "nature" they claim to love and cherish don't push ideas that are completely false at worst, and at best grossly exaggerated, then you are...uh...prone to believe the moonbat's emotionally charged bullshit...well, never mind.   The single biggest negative impact of the "BP Disater"?  The tourist scared off by the moonbats from the Gulf Coast, and the economic impact of same. 
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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2012, 10:32:44 AM »
You actually do ignore shit like this: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/view.php?id=20863
And this: http://www.mysanantonio.com/life/life_columnists/article/Natural-leaks-emit-oil-into-the-Gulf-of-Mexico-778985.php


God made oil, not man.  It's part of our environment.  That is not to say it can't cause damage or that man needs to be releasing more in to the environment than God intended, but nature has a way to deal with it.   It would be ideal if BP or Exxon wouldn't spill extra in to the oceans or Gulf.  Is there an negative impact on the environment?  Yes, but it's not nearly as extensive as the moonbats want you to believe, and it's far shorter lived than they want you to know.  However, if you think the raving moonbats, who are ignorant as hell about the "nature" they claim to love and cherish don't push ideas that are completely false at worst, and at best grossly exaggerated, then you are...uh...prone to believe the moonbat's emotionally charged bullshit...well, never mind.   The single biggest negative impact of the "BP Disater"?  The tourist scared off by the moonbats from the Gulf Coast, and the economic impact of same.

You lost Chad with "God". He ain't a believer bro.
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« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2012, 10:45:25 AM »
You lost Chad with "God". He ain't a believer bro.

That explains a lot.  But he can simply insert "mother nature" where I wrote God, same meaning in this context.
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