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« on: April 12, 2012, 12:00:55 PM »
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Ann Romney cut to the heart of the flap over what Hilary Rosen said about the candidate's wife never having worked "a day in her life" in a Fox News interview this morning, saying, "We need to respect choices that women make."

Rosen, a Democratic strategist, made the comment on CNN last night, adding that Ann Romney has "never really dealt with the kind of economic issues that a majority of women in the country are facing."

The clear idea was to highlight that Ann Romney has had different experiences as someone whose husband was a high income earner - but the remark ended up sounding like an attack on non-working moms that devalued the intensity of raising kids.

"She should have come to my house when those five boys were causing so much trouble," chuckled Ann Romney, when asked her gut reaction to the comment. "It wasn't so easy."

She added, "This is what's so interesting about this. My career choice was to be a mother....we need to respect choices that women make. Other women make a choice to (have careers and motherhood)... I think Hilary did that (as well)...I respect that, that's wonderful. There's other people that have a choice."

The line about choices is one that Democrats often point to as they have slammed Republicans on issues like contraception and abortion.

She added, "Lemme give a shoutout to all the dads at home raising kids...this is obviously an awesome responsibility to raise children."

When asked point blank about the suggestion that she couldn't relate to the struggles of working women, or working class woen, she said, "Look, I know what it's like to struggle and if maybe I haven't struggled as much financially as much as some people have, I can tell you and promise you that I've had struggles in my life....Mitt and I have compassion for people that are struggling and that's why we're running. We care about people that are struggling ."

It was a reference, at least in part, to her health struggles with MS and breast cancer.

She pointed to the number of times her husband would tell her, "Ann your job is more important than mine....he would say, my job is temporary...your job is a forever job."

She added, "Mitt reespects women that makes those different choices...Hilary needs to knwo this because I've been on the campaign trail for one year and guess what women are talking about....they're talking about jobs and they'ree talking about the legacy of debt that we're leaving our children."

As for the suggestion that Romney doesn't understand women's problems, she said, "That does bother me. That is not correct at all. You should see how many women he listens to and that's what I love about mitt. He has so many women in his circle. ... Mitt Romney is a person that admires women and listens to them and I am grateful that he listens to me" as she talks about what women care about.

Of the polling gap with President Obama among women, she said, "It's just too early...people haven't had a chance to listen to us or hear us."

Romney, she said, is a "can-do guy that's been able to turn things around in his life."



http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/04/ann-romney-we-need-to-respect-choices-that-women-make-120328.html
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Re: War on Women
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2012, 12:26:46 PM »
Fuck Hilary Rosen in the mouth.

This mommy part was the former head of the RIAA that started this piracy witch hunt.

Let alone the obvious irony of the strategist that coined the phrase "War on Women" is saying shit like this now.

Michelle Obama agrees.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2012, 01:06:48 PM »
Spare her, Chizad.  Spare her your faux anger.

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(CNN) -- My Twitter feed was on fire after an appearance Wednesday night on CNN's AC360, where I said that I thought it was wrong for Mitt Romney to be using his wife as his guide to women's economic struggles when she "had never worked a day in her life."

Democrat's comment about Ann Romney creates Twitter firestorm

Oh my, you should read the tweets and the hate mail I got after that. The accusations were flying. I don't know what it means to be a mom (I have 2 children). I obviously don't value the work that a mother does and how hard it is (the hardest job I have ever had); and I absolutely hate anyone who doesn't have the same views as I do (hate is a strong word).

Spare me the faux anger from the right who view the issue of women's rights and advancement as a way to score political points. When it comes to supporting policies that would actually help women, their silence has been deafening. I don't need lectures from the RNC on supporting women and fighting to increase opportunities for women; I've been doing it my whole career.

If they want to attack me and distract the public's attention away from their nominee's woeful record, it just demonstrates how much they just don't get it.

My favorite tweet was from someone who said that Republicans like Ann Romney so much more than Mitt that by attacking her (which I didn't), I got people to defend him in a way they never would. That last one, I can actually understand.

Now let's be clear on one thing. I have no judgments about women who work outside the home vs. women who work in the home raising a family. I admire women who can stay home and raise their kids full time. I even envy them sometimes. It is a wonderful luxury to have the choice. But let's stipulate that it is not a choice that most women have in America today.

Why does this even matter? It matters purely because Mitt Romney put the issue of his wife's views squarely on the table.

As Ruth Marcus noted in her column yesterday in the Washington Post, Romney, when asked last week about the gender gap, twice said he wished his wife could take the question.

"My wife has the occasion, as you know, to campaign on her own and also with me," Romney told newspaper editors, "and she reports to me regularly that the issue women care about most is the economy."

So it begs the question, is Ann Romney Mitt's touchstone for women who are struggling economically or not? Nothing in Ann Romney's history as we have heard it -- hardworking mom she may have been -- leads me to believe that Mitt has chosen the right expert to get feedback on this problem he professes to be so concerned about.

I have nothing against Ann Romney. She seems like a nice lady who has raised nice boys, struggled with illness and handles its long-term effects with grace and dignity. I admire her grit in talking about her illness publicly.

What is more important to me and 57% of current women voters is her husband saying he supports women's economic issues because they are the only issues that matter to us and then he fails on even those.

Let's put aside for a moment his views on women's health issues -- such as his pledge to repeal funding for Planned Parenthood or repeal Title X -- which provides important health services for poor women, and true anecdotes (such as when he was a Bishop in his church, he actually went to a congregant's hospital room and told a young single mother who had just given birth that she was shaming the church and should give her baby away). Let's put those issues of respect and health dignity away.

Let's just focus on his economic record on behalf of women. When Romney ran Bain Capital, less than 10% of the senior workforce were women. And he said in his 1994 Senate race that it was because he had trouble finding qualified women to be executives. Is there a woman alive who believes that?

I personally believe that women hate the way our health issues were made a political football by the Republicans in the last several months. But I am pragmatic enough to believe that the economic issues do matter greatly to women and men alike. But the only way that Mitt Romney will succeed in closing the wide gender gap between him and President Obama is if he stops pretending that it doesn't exist.


http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/12/opinion/ann-romney-hilary-rosen/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
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Re: War on Women
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2012, 01:08:18 PM »
Fuck Hilary Rosen in the mouth.

This mommy part was the former head of the RIAA that started this piracy witch hunt.

Let alone the obvious irony of the strategist that coined the phrase "War on Women" is saying shit like this now.

Michelle Obama agrees.


You're just pissed cause your pirating case is about to come up on the docket.
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Re: War on Women
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2012, 01:16:19 PM »
Fuck Hilary Rosen in the mouth.

This mommy part was the former head of the RIAA that started this piracy witch hunt.

Let alone the obvious irony of the strategist that coined the phrase "War on Women" is saying shit like this now.

Michelle Obama agrees.

So....this means you are voting for Romney, right?
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Re: War on Women
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2012, 01:21:01 PM »

Your just pissed cause your pirating case is about to come up on the docket.

Well HELLO, swashbuckler... 
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2012, 02:17:28 PM »
Oh, and another reason to hate her.

She left the RIAA to make a career out of helping BP confuse the public as their PR shill after the Gulf disaster.
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2012, 02:23:11 PM »
Oh, and another reason to hate her.

She left the RIAA to make a career out of helping BP confuse the public as their PR shill after the Gulf disaster.
Actually, that one gives her points in my book... 
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2012, 02:33:08 PM »
Actually, that one gives her points in my book...
You are a cartoon villain.
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2012, 02:36:29 PM »
Oh, and another reason to hate her.

She left the RIAA to make a career out of helping BP confuse the public as their PR shill after the Gulf disaster.

What did she do to confuse the public about the "disaster".
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2012, 02:46:03 PM »
You are a cartoon villain.
Coming from an ignorant, know-everything twirp, that's likely a positive...  Tell me about those mean-old, bad-old corporations like BP.  And, how dare the RIAA have an issue with your illegal downloading of music and movies!  Your criminal activities are non of their business. 
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2012, 02:48:15 PM »
What did she do to confuse the public about the "disaster".
Sorry, would you prefer the BP Gulf "enhancement"?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704032704575268790823002422.html

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After the spill, the company brought on crisis communicator Hilary Rosen, former Democratic congressional staffer, former chief executive of the Recording Industry Association of America, and a current editor-at-large for HuffingtonPost.com. Ms. Rosen heads the Washington-based office of U.K. communications firm the Brunswick Group. Public records are not yet available on the new Brunswick contract. Ms. Rosen declined to be interviewed on the record.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2012, 02:49:03 PM »
Coming from an ignorant, know-everything twirp, that's likely a positive...  Tell me about those mean-old, bad-old corporations like BP.  And, how dare the RIAA have an issue with your illegal downloading of music and movies!  Your criminal activities are non of their business.
You and this uber-liberal lesbian seem to have a lot in common.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2012, 02:50:12 PM »
Sorry, would you prefer the BP Gulf "enhancement"?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704032704575268790823002422.html

Whatever you want to call it...can I get a cliff's version of what she did to confuse the public?
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2012, 02:51:11 PM »
You and this uber-liberal lesbian seem to have a lot in common.
You do realize that I'm a male lesbian, right?
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2012, 03:01:00 PM »
You do realize that I'm a male lesbian, right?

Your anger with beta males just proves you are a fag, cause your daddy touched your ding dong too many times. Ya queer....
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2012, 03:04:08 PM »
Apparently MS. Rosen just offered a politically-motivated, non-apology, apology to Anne Romney:

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Hilary Rosen Apologizes To Ann Romney, Calls For End To 'Faux War' Against Moms

Posted: 04/12/2012 2:35 pm Updated: 04/12/2012 2:45 pm
 
WASHINGTON -- Less than 24 hours after it started, the faux war against stay-at-home moms appears to be coming to an end.

Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen on Thursday apologized to Ann Romney, wife of GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney, for criticizing her for having "never worked a day in her life." Ann Romney has been a stay-at-home mom, raising her five children with Mitt.

"I apologize to Ann Romney and anyone else who was offended," Rosen said in a statement. "Let's declare peace in this phony war and go back to focus on the substance."
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Full story:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/12/hilary-rosen-ann-romney_n_1420990.html?ref=elections-2012
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2012, 03:04:51 PM »
Whatever you want to call it...can I get a cliff's version of what she did to confuse the public?
http://priceofoil.org/2010/06/17/it%E2%80%99s-time-for-the-truth-tony/

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Hayward has apparently been practicing in front of a so-called “murder board” of a dozen-strong group of lawyers and public relations advisers who have been simulating the aggressive questions Hayward is likely to face.

Unlike the chaos in the Gulf, everything is being staged managed.  Hayward is apparently being advised on every detail about the appearance — including his posture and his choice of shirt and tie.

Top among those advising him are the spin-doctor Hilary Rosen, managing partner of the Washington office of Brunswick, BP’s public relations firm.

Apparently Hayward will “attempt to spread blame for disaster.”

He is expected to say: “This is a complex accident, caused by an unprecedented combination of failures. A number of companies are involved, including BP, and it is simply too early to understand the cause.”

The trouble is that BP has been trying to shift the blame for the accident from day one. Now is the time to stop the lies, the misinformation and come clean.


The Gulf residents, the American people and the wider world need to know the answers to numerous questions, including:
•    Whether there was financial pressure on BP to plug the Deepwater well, as documents show drilling was running late?
•    Why was safety compromised with risky procedures on the well design, and not using enough centrilisers?
•    Why were standard industry procedures abandoned such as not undertaking a cent bond log, a bottoms up or an adequate lock-down sleeve?
•    Why did his own staff call Deepwater a “nightmare well”?
•    Why has BP consistently lied or misinformed about the size of the spill? What it their estimate about the amount of oil that has been spilled? Some estimates now put the maximum of oil spilled at 116 million gallons. That is ten times the Exxon Valdez.
•    Why has BP consistently tried to hide the damage being done in the Gulf, from banning journalists and photographers from sensitive sites, to destroying evidence?
•    Why have BP’s call centres been described by people who work for them as “a diversion” to stop people getting the truth?
•    Why has BP tried to downplay the ecological impact of the spill – from crass comments about small drops in the ocean to denying plumes under water.

•    Why has it not adequately protected the clean-up workers?
•    Why has BP been trying to manipulate the internet by buying up search engines?

Anyway those are ten questions to start with. And we would like the truth for each and every one…

And how about two more. As Janice a worker at a BP call centre, said: “We’re a diversion to stop them from really getting to the corporate office, to the big people.”

So why do BP management see themselves as the “big people” and everyone else “small”?

And how much did corporate arrogance play a part in the spill?
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Re: War on Women
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2012, 03:14:15 PM »
http://priceofoil.org/2010/06/17/it%E2%80%99s-time-for-the-truth-tony/

Wow...  So, here's an ultra-Liberal puke being attacked by a fellow ultra-Liberal enviro-moron website, http://BlameAmerikunOil.com/.  Doesn't happen too often, but it's funny when it does. 
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My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.  - Winston Churchill

Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar.  - Mark Twain

Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!  - Stewie Griffin

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."  - Ayn Rand

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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2012, 03:25:21 PM »
Wow...  So, here's an ultra-Liberal puke being attacked by a fellow ultra-Liberal enviro-moron website, http://BlameAmerikunOil.com/.  Doesn't happen too often, but it's funny when it does.

That is amusing.  I was reading the bios of the Staff of "BlameAmerikunOil dot com" and not surprised to find their backgrounds in "Friends of the Earth" (weren't they the terrorist organization that was spiking trees in Pacific NW?), Greenpeace International, Greenpeace UK, UN Framework on Global Climate Change, Montreal Protocol, EarthRights Intl., etc.  I'm sure these folk have absolutely no agenda in discrediting Ms. Rosen or BP.
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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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